Michael Vick and Virginia Tech

[Anonymous]

Amazed - shocked - to see that Virginia Tech has decided that Michael Vick will lead this year's hall of fame class. This seems like astoundingly lousy judgment.

Any VT alums, applicants, or parents have any information on this decision, or any comments?

A Richmond columnist offered the following (external link to Richmond Times-Dispatch): http://www.richmond.com/sports/college/schools/virginia-tech/woody-michael-vick-has-no-place-in-virginia-tech-s/article_75f6378b-a9bb-50f7-9a09-254120b84e10.html

This is from a widely-published description of a few of Vick's actions:

As the little red dog lay on the ground fighting for air, Quanis Phillips grabbed its front legs and Michael Vick grabbed its hind legs. They swung the dog over their head like a jump rope then slammed it to the ground. The first impact didn't kill it. So Phillips and Vick slammed it again. The two men kept at it, alternating back and forth, pounding the creature against the ground, until at last, the little red dog was dead.

[Anonymous]

Michael Vick has paid his debt to society for the crimes he committed. He served time in prison,paid fines, has done community service, and lobbied congress for stiffer penalties for dog fighting participants and spectators. He has also endured substantial career and financial repercussions for his actions. There are many things that he did before and after the attrocious events for which he was convicted. Just like it is completely appropriate for you to not forget what he did that landed him in prison, it is important not to forget that he is a person who has also made many positive contributions to society and those should not be forgotten either. He was a stand out athelete at Virginia Tech, his being nominated for the Heisman as well as his many other accomplishments with the Hokies are significant and should not be nullified.

I don't know about you, but if all anyone ever thought about me or allowed others to remember about me was the worst thing I had ever done in my life my life would be pretty miserable. Luckily, I am not a celebrety and most people have no idea, nor do they care, about what that thing is... and I am therefore allowed to be seen as a complete complex human being. Please don't define Mike Vick (or anyone else) by there single most horrible act, that is not who they are... it is what they have done and most people learn from their mistakes and move on to make better decisions in the future.

[Anonymous]

It's all about money and ensuring his generous donations. Always is with college football.

[Anonymous]

Anything a school like VT does that has not won a National Championship in any Team Sport in their history is irrelevant. Keep honoring false Gods while you go almost 150 years without a Championship!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Michael Vick has paid his debt to society for the crimes he committed. He served time in prison,paid fines, has done community service, and lobbied congress for stiffer penalties for dog fighting participants and spectators. He has also endured substantial career and financial repercussions for his actions. There are many things that he did before and after the attrocious events for which he was convicted. Just like it is completely appropriate for you to not forget what he did that landed him in prison, it is important not to forget that he is a person who has also made many positive contributions to society and those should not be forgotten either. He was a stand out athelete at Virginia Tech, his being nominated for the Heisman as well as his many other accomplishments with the Hokies are significant and should not be nullified.

I don't know about you, but if all anyone ever thought about me or allowed others to remember about me was the worst thing I had ever done in my life my life would be pretty miserable. Luckily, I am not a celebrety and most people have no idea, nor do they care, about what that thing is... and I am therefore allowed to be seen as a complete complex human being. Please don't define Mike Vick (or anyone else) by there single most horrible act, that is not who they are... it is what they have done and most people learn from their mistakes and move on to make better decisions in the future.

SINGLE act???? He executed how many? FORTY dogs? What is SINGLE about it?
Nothing he ever do will compensate fear, pain, suffering and horrific deaths of these dogs. NOTHING.
If he would not get caught he would continue to execute dogs. He was sorry for only one thing - for himself been caught.
Groomed ghetto trash with money.
This thing should not be anywhere near kids and young people.

[Anonymous]

Different or the same from Ray Lewis? OJ Simpson still honored by USC. Those are footballers who killed humans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Michael Vick has paid his debt to society for the crimes he committed. He served time in prison,paid fines, has done community service, and lobbied congress for stiffer penalties for dog fighting participants and spectators. He has also endured substantial career and financial repercussions for his actions. There are many things that he did before and after the attrocious events for which he was convicted. Just like it is completely appropriate for you to not forget what he did that landed him in prison, it is important not to forget that he is a person who has also made many positive contributions to society and those should not be forgotten either. He was a stand out athelete at Virginia Tech, his being nominated for the Heisman as well as his many other accomplishments with the Hokies are significant and should not be nullified.

I don't know about you, but if all anyone ever thought about me or allowed others to remember about me was the worst thing I had ever done in my life my life would be pretty miserable. Luckily, I am not a celebrety and most people have no idea, nor do they care, about what that thing is... and I am therefore allowed to be seen as a complete complex human being. Please don't define Mike Vick (or anyone else) by there single most horrible act, that is not who they are... it is what they have done and most people learn from their mistakes and move on to make better decisions in the future.

I would reply but I couldn't say it as well as this poster did. Happy for Vick.

[Anonymous]

I was initially very anti-Vick, but it really does appear that he's changed his ways and strongly regrets his previous actions. He's spent a lot of time working for animals since he's been released.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was initially very anti-Vick, but it really does appear that he's changed his ways and strongly regrets his previous actions. He's spent a lot of time working for animals since he's been released.

Forty dogs. Forty acts, not a single act.

A tiger doesn't change its stripes.

Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was initially very anti-Vick, but it really does appear that he's changed his ways and strongly regrets his previous actions. He's spent a lot of time working for animals since he's been released.

Forty dogs. Forty acts, not a single act.

A tiger doesn't change its stripes.

Disgusting.

Did you grow up in the culture that he did? I didn't either. I'm a dog owner and lover and I have moved on. 40 dogs?? How about we stop vilifying him and worry about the way more than 40 kids who are going to be food insecure today?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was initially very anti-Vick, but it really does appear that he's changed his ways and strongly regrets his previous actions. He's spent a lot of time working for animals since he's been released.

Forty dogs. Forty acts, not a single act.

A tiger doesn't change its stripes.

Disgusting.

Didn't say it was. I do believe that people can change. It's not common, but it does happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michael Vick has paid his debt to society for the crimes he committed. He served time in prison,paid fines, has done community service, and lobbied congress for stiffer penalties for dog fighting participants and spectators. He has also endured substantial career and financial repercussions for his actions. There are many things that he did before and after the attrocious events for which he was convicted. Just like it is completely appropriate for you to not forget what he did that landed him in prison, it is important not to forget that he is a person who has also made many positive contributions to society and those should not be forgotten either. He was a stand out athelete at Virginia Tech, his being nominated for the Heisman as well as his many other accomplishments with the Hokies are significant and should not be nullified.

I don't know about you, but if all anyone ever thought about me or allowed others to remember about me was the worst thing I had ever done in my life my life would be pretty miserable. Luckily, I am not a celebrety and most people have no idea, nor do they care, about what that thing is... and I am therefore allowed to be seen as a complete complex human being. Please don't define Mike Vick (or anyone else) by there single most horrible act, that is not who they are... it is what they have done and most people learn from their mistakes and move on to make better decisions in the future.

SINGLE act???? He executed how many? FORTY dogs? What is SINGLE about it?
Nothing he ever do will compensate fear, pain, suffering and horrific deaths of these dogs. NOTHING.
If he would not get caught he would continue to execute dogs. He was sorry for only one thing - for himself been caught.
Groomed ghetto trash with money.
This thing should not be anywhere near kids and young people.

Do you eat meat? Wear leather? Enjoy licorice?

I hope not, because those animals face a way worse life and death than Vick's dog ever did, and it is directly your fault.

[Anonymous]

Who cares? It was a bunch of dogs. So sick of these dog people. You people care more about dogs vs people.

[Anonymous]

Even after a debt to society has been paid. There are certain crimes that shouldn't allow the criminal to participate in certain things. These dogs were as innocent as children. If he had done this to children and "paid his debt" to society. Would we allow him to work with children or praise him for talking on behalf of abused kids? Think about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was initially very anti-Vick, but it really does appear that he's changed his ways and strongly regrets his previous actions. He's spent a lot of time working for animals since he's been released.

Forty dogs. Forty acts, not a single act.

A tiger doesn't change its stripes.

Disgusting.

Did you grow up in the culture that he did? I didn't either. I'm a dog owner and lover and I have moved on. 40 dogs?? How about we stop vilifying him and worry about the way more than 40 kids who are going to be food insecure today?

So, blame the culture and look the other way is what you are saying?