Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

A Bernie / Gabbard ticket is not losing Michigan and Pennsylvania, for example.

Someone wasn’t paying attention during the midterms. No Democratic ticket is losing Michigan and Pennsylvania this time.

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Prognostications brought to you by the same people who thought Trump would be the easiest candidate to beat in 2016.

We didn't realize Trump would defraud voters with the support of Russia. And pretty much anyone with any intelligence is disgusted by him now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A Bernie / Gabbard ticket is not losing Michigan and Pennsylvania, for example.

Someone wasn’t paying attention during the midterms. No Democratic ticket is losing Michigan and Pennsylvania this time.

+1

Prognostications brought to you by the same people who thought Trump would be the easiest candidate to beat in 2016.

We didn't realize Trump would defraud voters with the support of Russia. And pretty much anyone with any intelligence is disgusted by him now.

Keep making that crap up. Russia didn't steal anything, instead a group of profoundly incompetent and seriously misguided Democrats lost. Not being willing to admit that is every bit as insulting as failing to campaign in Michigan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A Bernie / Gabbard ticket is not losing Michigan and Pennsylvania, for example.

Someone wasn’t paying attention during the midterms. No Democratic ticket is losing Michigan and Pennsylvania this time.

+1

Prognostications brought to you by the same people who thought Trump would be the easiest candidate to beat in 2016.

We didn't realize Trump would defraud voters with the support of Russia. And pretty much anyone with any intelligence is disgusted by him now.

Keep making that crap up. Russia didn't steal anything, instead a group of profoundly incompetent and seriously misguided Democrats lost. Not being willing to admit that is every bit as insulting as failing to campaign in Michigan.

+1.

Brainwashed Dems are the GOP's secret weapon.

They will make the same mistakes again

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A Bernie / Gabbard ticket is not losing Michigan and Pennsylvania, for example.

Someone wasn’t paying attention during the midterms. No Democratic ticket is losing Michigan and Pennsylvania this time.

+1

Prognostications brought to you by the same people who thought Trump would be the easiest candidate to beat in 2016.

We didn't realize Trump would defraud voters with the support of Russia. And pretty much anyone with any intelligence is disgusted by him now.

Keep making that crap up.[b] Russia didn't steal anything, instead a group of profoundly incompetent and seriously misguided Democrats lost. Not being willing to admit that is every bit as insulting as failing to campaign in Michigan.

Sorry that you think quoting the words of US prosecutors is "making crap up." I guess you're one of those racist Republicans rather than the traditional law and order kind.

The latest revelations by prosecutors investigating President Trump and his team draw a portrait of a candidate who personally directed an illegal scheme to manipulate the 2016 election and whose advisers had more contact with Russia than Mr. Trump has ever acknowledged.

In the narrative that the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, and New York prosecutors are building, Mr. Trump continued to secretly seek to do business in Russia deep into his presidential campaign even as Russian agents made more efforts to influence him. At the same time, in this account he ordered hush payments to two women to suppress stories of impropriety in violation of campaign finance law.

The prosecutors made clear in a sentencing memo filed on Friday that they viewed efforts by Mr. Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, to squelch the stories as nothing less than a perversion of a democratic election — [/b]and by extension they effectively accused the president of defrauding voters, questioning the legitimacy of his victory.[b]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bernie Sanders with Tulsi Gabbard as VP.

Both can appeal to the base and pull disenfranchised working class voters from Trump. Most importantly they’re both solidly on the side of old-school Democrat values and aren’t neo-liberals in blue collar costumes, like Bill Clinton and Biden. Their authenticity and lack of BS make them stand out in the field. They also try to not traffic too much in identity politics, which has been a wedge issue that Republicans have used to pry people who have always historically voted D. A Bernie / Gabbard ticket is not losing Michigan and Pennsylvania, for example. Gabbard’s straight forward demeanor, lack of relative pretense (for a politician), military service and consistently strong non-interventionist, anti-corporate stances make her the anti-Hillary and a very hard person for Trump to go after. She’d also be a way to encourage women voters, even moderate Rs, to vote for the Dems.

Both candidates are associated with Russia.

Gabbard: http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/20879/Tulsi-Gabbard-Hires-Russian-Agent-to-Keep-Hawaii-Media-in-Check.aspx

Sanders: https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/19/bernie-sanders-strategist-russian-spy/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A Bernie / Gabbard ticket is not losing Michigan and Pennsylvania, for example.

Someone wasn’t paying attention during the midterms. No Democratic ticket is losing Michigan and Pennsylvania this time.

+1

Prognostications brought to you by the same people who thought Trump would be the easiest candidate to beat in 2016.

We didn't realize Trump would defraud voters with the support of Russia. And pretty much anyone with any intelligence is disgusted by him now.

Keep making that crap up.[b] Russia didn't steal anything, instead a group of profoundly incompetent and seriously misguided Democrats lost. Not being willing to admit that is every bit as insulting as failing to campaign in Michigan.

Sorry that you think quoting the words of US prosecutors is "making crap up." I guess you're one of those racist Republicans rather than the traditional law and order kind.

The latest revelations by prosecutors investigating President Trump and his team draw a portrait of a candidate who personally directed an illegal scheme to manipulate the 2016 election and whose advisers had more contact with Russia than Mr. Trump has ever acknowledged.

In the narrative that the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, and New York prosecutors are building, Mr. Trump continued to secretly seek to do business in Russia deep into his presidential campaign even as Russian agents made more efforts to influence him. At the same time, in this account he ordered hush payments to two women to suppress stories of impropriety in violation of campaign finance law.

The prosecutors made clear in a sentencing memo filed on Friday that they viewed efforts by Mr. Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, to squelch the stories as nothing less than a perversion of a democratic election — [/b]and by extension they effectively accused the president of defrauding voters, questioning the legitimacy of his victory.[b]

That is a story, not a quote from the filings you dolt.

[Anonymous]

I have no idea who is likely to get the nomination in 2020, but Sanders and Warren supporters are delusional if they think either one of them can win a general election, even against Trump.

The vast majority of Americans are absolutely not going to vote for a "Socialist," and if even you don't think that's what Sanders and Warren are, I can guarantee you that's exactly what they will be in the eyes of the electorate by the time the GOP is done with them.

[Anonymous]

Sherrod Brown/Amy Klobuchar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea who is likely to get the nomination in 2020, but Sanders and Warren supporters are delusional if they think either one of them can win a general election, even against Trump.

The vast majority of Americans are absolutely not going to vote for a "Socialist," and if even you don't think that's what Sanders and Warren are, I can guarantee you that's exactly what they will be in the eyes of the electorate by the time the GOP is done with them.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bernie Sanders with Tulsi Gabbard as VP.

Both can appeal to the base and pull disenfranchised working class voters from Trump. Most importantly they’re both solidly on the side of old-school Democrat values and aren’t neo-liberals in blue collar costumes, like Bill Clinton and Biden. Their authenticity and lack of BS make them stand out in the field. They also try to not traffic too much in identity politics, which has been a wedge issue that Republicans have used to pry people who have always historically voted D. A Bernie / Gabbard ticket is not losing Michigan and Pennsylvania, for example. Gabbard’s straight forward demeanor, lack of relative pretense (for a politician), military service and consistently strong non-interventionist, anti-corporate stances make her the anti-Hillary and a very hard person for Trump to go after. She’d also be a way to encourage women voters, even moderate Rs, to vote for the Dems.

Both candidates are associated with Russia.

Gabbard: http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/20879/Tulsi-Gabbard-Hires-Russian-Agent-to-Keep-Hawaii-Media-in-Check.aspx

Sanders: https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/19/bernie-sanders-strategist-russian-spy/

You have Sanders and Gabbard mixed up with the POTUS you chose who is entangled with the Russians like a boa constrictor. Please post when you have a source more legitimate than the Daily Caller and the "Hawaiian Free Press."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea who is likely to get the nomination in 2020, but Sanders and Warren supporters are delusional if they think either one of them can win a general election, even against Trump.

The vast majority of Americans are absolutely not going to vote for a "Socialist," and if even you don't think that's what Sanders and Warren are, I can guarantee you that's exactly what they will be in the eyes of the electorate by the time the GOP is done with them.

+1

Lol! Bernie is the most trusted politician in the country: his strength rests upon his obvious integrity. The Democrats of recent decades having been losing to worse and worse Republicans because these Democrats are obvious frauds. Keep dreaming that the word ‘socialism’ is bad juju.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea who is likely to get the nomination in 2020, but Sanders and Warren supporters are delusional if they think either one of them can win a general election, even against Trump.

The vast majority of Americans are absolutely not going to vote for a "Socialist," and if even you don't think that's what Sanders and Warren are, I can guarantee you that's exactly what they will be in the eyes of the electorate by the time the GOP is done with them.

+1

Lol! Bernie is the most trusted politician in the country: his strength rests upon his obvious integrity. The Democrats of recent decades having been losing to worse and worse Republicans because these Democrats are obvious frauds. Keep dreaming that the word ‘socialism’ is bad juju.

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Not PP but I’m a liberal Democrat and PP is bang on that Warren and Sanders can’t win. And Bernie’s integrity would be more obvious if he released his tax returns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea who is likely to get the nomination in 2020, but Sanders and Warren supporters are delusional if they think either one of them can win a general election, even against Trump.

The vast majority of Americans are absolutely not going to vote for a "Socialist," and if even you don't think that's what Sanders and Warren are, I can guarantee you that's exactly what they will be in the eyes of the electorate by the time the GOP is done with them.

+1

Lol! Bernie is the most trusted politician in the country: his strength rests upon his obvious integrity. The Democrats of recent decades having been losing to worse and worse Republicans because these Democrats are obvious frauds. Keep dreaming that the word ‘socialism’ is bad juju.

x

Not PP but I’m a liberal Democrat and PP is bang on that Warren and Sanders can’t win. And Bernie’s integrity would be more obvious if he released his tax returns.

You have Bernie's integrity confused with your orange POTUS. Bernie has released his tax returns repeatedly.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-tax-return-222041

[Anonymous]

In a world where a reality TV star is President, the charismatic telegenic Beto might be the Democrat's best bet.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/09/us/politics/beto-2020-presidential-race.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

The 2020 Democratic presidential primary, already expected to be the party’s most wide open in decades, has been jostled on the eve of many long-plotted campaign announcements by a political threat that few contenders bothered considering until recently:

Will a soon-to-be-former congressman, with an unremarkable legislative record and a Senate campaign loss, upend their best-laid plans?

Representative Beto O’Rourke of Texas has emerged as the wild card of the presidential campaign-in-waiting for a Democratic Party that lacks a clear 2020 front-runner. After a star-making turn in his close race against Senator Ted Cruz, Mr. O’Rourke is increasingly serious about a 2020 run — a development that is rousing activists in early-voting states, leading veterans of former President Barack Obama’s political operation (and Mr. Obama himself) to offer their counsel and hampering would-be rivals who are scrambling to lock down influential supporters and strategists as future campaign staff.

Advisers to other prospective Democratic candidates for 2020 acknowledge that Mr. O’Rourke is worthy of their concern. His record-setting success with small donors would test the grass-roots strength of progressives like Senators Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and Bernie Sanders of Vermont. His sometimes saccharine call to summon the nation’s better angels would compete with the likely pitch of Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey.

And his appeal to some former Obama advisers — and, potentially, his electoral coalition of young people, women and often infrequent voters — could complicate a possible run for former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., who would aim to win back many of his former boss’s constituencies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea who is likely to get the nomination in 2020, but Sanders and Warren supporters are delusional if they think either one of them can win a general election, even against Trump.

The vast majority of Americans are absolutely not going to vote for a "Socialist," and if even you don't think that's what Sanders and Warren are, I can guarantee you that's exactly what they will be in the eyes of the electorate by the time the GOP is done with them.

I am not sure how many people you think are required to make a "vast majority" but at least 90%, of Clinton voters have already decided to vote for the Democrat, even it's Karl Marx himself. There are probably another 5% or so of Trump voters who hated both Clinton and Trump, but would vote for almost any other Democrat. "Socialist" is just not the kiss of death it used to be. On the other hand, Trump has lost enough voters in some swing states to make his path to victory even narrower than 2016.