Petition: Later MCPS school start times

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. Signed the petition when it came out. Ignore the distracting "parenting" comments. (My 8th grader gets herself up and out on time but it wasn't parenting, she's just like that.) The issue is whether it's OK for her and other teens to be getting up so early. In terms of health and learning. And it isn't! Agitating for this change is appropriate, and good parenting.

Why doesn’t she go to bed earlier if she needs more sleep?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Signed the petition when it came out. Ignore the distracting "parenting" comments. (My 8th grader gets herself up and out on time but it wasn't parenting, she's just like that.) The issue is whether it's OK for her and other teens to be getting up so early. In terms of health and learning. And it isn't! Agitating for this change is appropriate, and good parenting.

Why doesn’t she go to bed earlier if she needs more sleep?

Adolescent circadian rhythms make it difficult. Why doesn't your cat open his own cans of food?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Signed the petition when it came out. Ignore the distracting "parenting" comments. (My 8th grader gets herself up and out on time but it wasn't parenting, she's just like that.) The issue is whether it's OK for her and other teens to be getting up so early. In terms of health and learning. And it isn't! Agitating for this change is appropriate, and good parenting.

Why doesn’t she go to bed earlier if she needs more sleep?

Adolescent circadian rhythms make it difficult. Why doesn't your cat open his own cans of food?

The astrological implications combined with the biorhythmic resonance on their chakras make it real hard to get up in the morning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Signed the petition when it came out. Ignore the distracting "parenting" comments. (My 8th grader gets herself up and out on time but it wasn't parenting, she's just like that.) The issue is whether it's OK for her and other teens to be getting up so early. In terms of health and learning. And it isn't! Agitating for this change is appropriate, and good parenting.

Why doesn’t she go to bed earlier if she needs more sleep?

Adolescent circadian rhythms make it difficult. Why doesn't your cat open his own cans of food?

The astrological implications combined with the biorhythmic resonance on their chakras make it real hard to get up in the morning.

There are a lot of NIH Pubmed citations of the adolescent circadian rhythms already posted in this thread. Where are your citations? Or do you like to just make up stuff in a futile attempt to confuse people?

[Anonymous]

"If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit!"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Signed the petition when it came out. Ignore the distracting "parenting" comments. (My 8th grader gets herself up and out on time but it wasn't parenting, she's just like that.) The issue is whether it's OK for her and other teens to be getting up so early. In terms of health and learning. And it isn't! Agitating for this change is appropriate, and good parenting.

Why doesn’t she go to bed earlier if she needs more sleep?

Adolescent circadian rhythms make it difficult. Why doesn't your cat open his own cans of food?

The astrological implications combined with the biorhythmic resonance on their chakras make it real hard to get up in the morning.

There are a lot of NIH Pubmed citations of the adolescent circadian rhythms already posted in this thread. Where are your citations? Or do you like to just make up stuff in a futile attempt to confuse people?

I agree that children of all ages need adequate sleep.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Signed the petition when it came out. Ignore the distracting "parenting" comments. (My 8th grader gets herself up and out on time but it wasn't parenting, she's just like that.) The issue is whether it's OK for her and other teens to be getting up so early. In terms of health and learning. And it isn't! Agitating for this change is appropriate, and good parenting.

Why doesn’t she go to bed earlier if she needs more sleep?

Adolescent circadian rhythms make it difficult. Why doesn't your cat open his own cans of food?

The astrological implications combined with the biorhythmic resonance on their chakras make it real hard to get up in the morning.

There are a lot of NIH Pubmed citations of the adolescent circadian rhythms already posted in this thread. Where are your citations? Or do you like to just make up stuff in a futile attempt to confuse people?

I agree that children of all ages need adequate sleep.

Very true! Younger children naturally wake up earlier than older kids. Parents of teens, or at least those that pay attention, know this regardless of whether they've read any studies.

[Anonymous]

time change. ugh. sign petition!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Signed the petition when it came out. Ignore the distracting "parenting" comments. (My 8th grader gets herself up and out on time but it wasn't parenting, she's just like that.) The issue is whether it's OK for her and other teens to be getting up so early. In terms of health and learning. And it isn't! Agitating for this change is appropriate, and good parenting.

Why doesn’t she go to bed earlier if she needs more sleep?

Adolescent circadian rhythms make it difficult. Why doesn't your cat open his own cans of food?

The astrological implications combined with the biorhythmic resonance on their chakras make it real hard to get up in the morning.

There are a lot of NIH Pubmed citations of the adolescent circadian rhythms already posted in this thread. Where are your citations? Or do you like to just make up stuff in a futile attempt to confuse people?

I agree that children of all ages need adequate sleep.

Very true! Younger children naturally wake up earlier than older kids. Parents of teens, or at least those that pay attention, know this regardless of whether they've read any studies.

Or, we simply parent by telling our kids to go to bed and enforcing it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Signed the petition when it came out. Ignore the distracting "parenting" comments. (My 8th grader gets herself up and out on time but it wasn't parenting, she's just like that.) The issue is whether it's OK for her and other teens to be getting up so early. In terms of health and learning. And it isn't! Agitating for this change is appropriate, and good parenting.

Why doesn’t she go to bed earlier if she needs more sleep?

Adolescent circadian rhythms make it difficult. Why doesn't your cat open his own cans of food?

The astrological implications combined with the biorhythmic resonance on their chakras make it real hard to get up in the morning.

There are a lot of NIH Pubmed citations of the adolescent circadian rhythms already posted in this thread. Where are your citations? Or do you like to just make up stuff in a futile attempt to confuse people?

I agree that children of all ages need adequate sleep.

Very true! Younger children naturally wake up earlier than older kids. Parents of teens, or at least those that pay attention, know this regardless of whether they've read any studies.

Or, we simply parent by telling our kids to go to bed and enforcing it.

How old are your kids? Either your kids are young, or your kids are unusually obedient, or your kids are fooling you, or you know there's actually nothing simple about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Signed the petition when it came out. Ignore the distracting "parenting" comments. (My 8th grader gets herself up and out on time but it wasn't parenting, she's just like that.) The issue is whether it's OK for her and other teens to be getting up so early. In terms of health and learning. And it isn't! Agitating for this change is appropriate, and good parenting.

Why doesn’t she go to bed earlier if she needs more sleep?

Adolescent circadian rhythms make it difficult. Why doesn't your cat open his own cans of food?

The astrological implications combined with the biorhythmic resonance on their chakras make it real hard to get up in the morning.

There are a lot of NIH Pubmed citations of the adolescent circadian rhythms already posted in this thread. Where are your citations? Or do you like to just make up stuff in a futile attempt to confuse people?

I agree that children of all ages need adequate sleep.

Very true! Younger children naturally wake up earlier than older kids. Parents of teens, or at least those that pay attention, know this regardless of whether they've read any studies.

Or, we simply parent by telling our kids to go to bed and enforcing it.

Because it's so easy to change brain chemistry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Signed the petition when it came out. Ignore the distracting "parenting" comments. (My 8th grader gets herself up and out on time but it wasn't parenting, she's just like that.) The issue is whether it's OK for her and other teens to be getting up so early. In terms of health and learning. And it isn't! Agitating for this change is appropriate, and good parenting.

Why doesn’t she go to bed earlier if she needs more sleep?

Adolescent circadian rhythms make it difficult. Why doesn't your cat open his own cans of food?

The astrological implications combined with the biorhythmic resonance on their chakras make it real hard to get up in the morning.

There are a lot of NIH Pubmed citations of the adolescent circadian rhythms already posted in this thread. Where are your citations? Or do you like to just make up stuff in a futile attempt to confuse people?

I agree that children of all ages need adequate sleep.

Very true! Younger children naturally wake up earlier than older kids. Parents of teens, or at least those that pay attention, know this regardless of whether they've read any studies.

Or, we simply parent by telling our kids to go to bed and enforcing it.

How old are your kids? Either your kids are young, or your kids are unusually obedient, or your kids are fooling you, or you know there's actually nothing simple about it.

DP.
I have a middle schooler and a senior. Both get 8+ hours of sleep. (It helps that phones stayed in my room for the first couple years for each, building the habit of not texting at midnight or 2am.)

If school is later, then my high schooler will be doing her sport and clubs later into the evening. That will push her homework and bedtime back and she’ll end up getting less sleep than she does now.

It just seems… easier to enforce bedtimes than forcing an entire district to change so students can stay up later.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Signed the petition when it came out. Ignore the distracting "parenting" comments. (My 8th grader gets herself up and out on time but it wasn't parenting, she's just like that.) The issue is whether it's OK for her and other teens to be getting up so early. In terms of health and learning. And it isn't! Agitating for this change is appropriate, and good parenting.

Why doesn’t she go to bed earlier if she needs more sleep?

Adolescent circadian rhythms make it difficult. Why doesn't your cat open his own cans of food?

The astrological implications combined with the biorhythmic resonance on their chakras make it real hard to get up in the morning.

There are a lot of NIH Pubmed citations of the adolescent circadian rhythms already posted in this thread. Where are your citations? Or do you like to just make up stuff in a futile attempt to confuse people?

I agree that children of all ages need adequate sleep.

Very true! Younger children naturally wake up earlier than older kids. Parents of teens, or at least those that pay attention, know this regardless of whether they've read any studies.

Or, we simply parent by telling our kids to go to bed and enforcing it.

How old are your kids? Either your kids are young, or your kids are unusually obedient, or your kids are fooling you, or you know there's actually nothing simple about it.

DP.
I have a middle schooler and a senior. Both get 8+ hours of sleep. (It helps that phones stayed in my room for the first couple years for each, building the habit of not texting at midnight or 2am.)

If school is later, then my high schooler will be doing her sport and clubs later into the evening. That will push her homework and bedtime back and she’ll end up getting less sleep than she does now.

It just seems… easier to enforce bedtimes than forcing an entire district to change so students can stay up later.

Yes, in the sense that later school start times are not going to happen unless there are changes to the constraints that limited MCPS options in 2013.

But no, in the sense that "enforcing bedtimes" is not necessarily easy - or even appropriate, depending on age. If it works for you and your kids, that's great for your family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Signed the petition when it came out. Ignore the distracting "parenting" comments. (My 8th grader gets herself up and out on time but it wasn't parenting, she's just like that.) The issue is whether it's OK for her and other teens to be getting up so early. In terms of health and learning. And it isn't! Agitating for this change is appropriate, and good parenting.

Why doesn’t she go to bed earlier if she needs more sleep?

Adolescent circadian rhythms make it difficult. Why doesn't your cat open his own cans of food?

The astrological implications combined with the biorhythmic resonance on their chakras make it real hard to get up in the morning.

There are a lot of NIH Pubmed citations of the adolescent circadian rhythms already posted in this thread. Where are your citations? Or do you like to just make up stuff in a futile attempt to confuse people?

I agree that children of all ages need adequate sleep.

Very true! Younger children naturally wake up earlier than older kids. Parents of teens, or at least those that pay attention, know this regardless of whether they've read any studies.

Or, we simply parent by telling our kids to go to bed and enforcing it.

How old are your kids? Either your kids are young, or your kids are unusually obedient, or your kids are fooling you, or you know there's actually nothing simple about it.

Neither, we monitor things and doors stay open till they fall asleep. Teens

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Signed the petition when it came out. Ignore the distracting "parenting" comments. (My 8th grader gets herself up and out on time but it wasn't parenting, she's just like that.) The issue is whether it's OK for her and other teens to be getting up so early. In terms of health and learning. And it isn't! Agitating for this change is appropriate, and good parenting.

Why doesn’t she go to bed earlier if she needs more sleep?

Adolescent circadian rhythms make it difficult. Why doesn't your cat open his own cans of food?

The astrological implications combined with the biorhythmic resonance on their chakras make it real hard to get up in the morning.

There are a lot of NIH Pubmed citations of the adolescent circadian rhythms already posted in this thread. Where are your citations? Or do you like to just make up stuff in a futile attempt to confuse people?

I agree that children of all ages need adequate sleep.

Very true! Younger children naturally wake up earlier than older kids. Parents of teens, or at least those that pay attention, know this regardless of whether they've read any studies.

Or, we simply parent by telling our kids to go to bed and enforcing it.

How old are your kids? Either your kids are young, or your kids are unusually obedient, or your kids are fooling you, or you know there's actually nothing simple about it.

DP.
I have a middle schooler and a senior. Both get 8+ hours of sleep. (It helps that phones stayed in my room for the first couple years for each, building the habit of not texting at midnight or 2am.)

If school is later, then my high schooler will be doing her sport and clubs later into the evening. That will push her homework and bedtime back and she’ll end up getting less sleep than she does now.

It just seems… easier to enforce bedtimes than forcing an entire district to change so students can stay up later.

Yes, in the sense that later school start times are not going to happen unless there are changes to the constraints that limited MCPS options in 2013.

But no, in the sense that "enforcing bedtimes" is not necessarily easy - or even appropriate, depending on age. If it works for you and your kids, that's great for your family.

If you are complaining your kids are tired and need more sleep, yes, you do need to enforce bedtime.