2022 election results thread

[Anonymous]

You can go back about 30 pages where I posted that the aggregate polling data was polluted with crappy GOP polling. The likes of CNN bought it and tried to sell it, but all it did was further energize the left, except in places where voter suppression and gerrymandering were successful (ie FL and WI)

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Anonymous wrote:Both Nevada and Arizona need to take action after this election to get their ducks in a row.
It is ridiculous that tabulating votes is taking this long. Their election officials should be embarrassed.

The reason elections are not trusted. When cameras go dark and they have a vote dump during that time, people are going to be inflamed. Then it has to be explained away by mainstream:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/11/10/livestream-cams-washoe-county-vote-count-area-went-dark-heres-why/10661538002/

Changes require the state legislatures to change the way votes are counted. If you don’t allow mail ballots to be counted until Election Day, then it will take a long time. This is just a simple change, prep and count ballots as they come in. Lots of states do it and you end up with 98-99% counts on election night. Now you can never get 100% on election night because of military ballots and mail postmarks on Election Day, also time to cure ballots. They need that extra week to get the final 1-2%. Still it’s a simple process change that resolves all but the closest elections on election night.

I’m not talking about counting. I’m talking about the live cameras put in so people can observe the process suddenly malfunctioning, during which time a large dump came in, were counted, and added to the tally. If you want to gain the trust of the American people, you wait to count those votes. So now it has an Epstein-like feel. And those votes broke for Dems. The problem is, if we want to be trusted and believed, and you want Americans to trust the process and the nonsense to stop, you can’t behave like this.

From the comments I see on this site, even moderate Democrats are chided and ridiculed for asking questions, and have expressed their disappointment

This wouldn’t be an issue if simple changes were made to count the votes quicker. And who fights against changes such as prepping and counting mail in ballots as the come in, Republicans that is who. If fact, many want all hand counted paper ballots and only counted on or after Election Day! That would take weeks to get any results, and be way less accurate.

Again, you focus on counting. Let me make this simple. If cameras go dark that are supposed to make the process transparent, stop counting and don't dump a bunch of votes.

Do you really believe only the cameras are watching...that there aren't actual people in the room overseeing the process?

This is what I find really difficult to understand. That there are people out there that believe that internet randos watching vote counts remotely is what's going to "stop the steal".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can go back about 30 pages where I posted that the aggregate polling data was polluted with crappy GOP polling. The likes of CNN bought it and tried to sell it, but all it did was further energize the left, except in places where voter suppression and gerrymandering were successful (ie FL and WI)

+1 There was a big discussion about this in the Senate thread. Trafalgar is beyond Republican leaning, missed every swing state in 2020, still has an A rating, and was releasing like a dozen polls a week. Every poll had the Ds not getting to 50%, EVEN THE ONE FOR VERMONT SENATE. Hopefully they’ll go back on the trash heap.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Nevada and Arizona need to take action after this election to get their ducks in a row.
It is ridiculous that tabulating votes is taking this long. Their election officials should be embarrassed.

The reason elections are not trusted. When cameras go dark and they have a vote dump during that time, people are going to be inflamed. Then it has to be explained away by mainstream:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/11/10/livestream-cams-washoe-county-vote-count-area-went-dark-heres-why/10661538002/

Changes require the state legislatures to change the way votes are counted. If you don’t allow mail ballots to be counted until Election Day, then it will take a long time. This is just a simple change, prep and count ballots as they come in. Lots of states do it and you end up with 98-99% counts on election night. Now you can never get 100% on election night because of military ballots and mail postmarks on Election Day, also time to cure ballots. They need that extra week to get the final 1-2%. Still it’s a simple process change that resolves all but the closest elections on election night.

I’m not talking about counting. I’m talking about the live cameras put in so people can observe the process suddenly malfunctioning, during which time a large dump came in, were counted, and added to the tally. If you want to gain the trust of the American people, you wait to count those votes. So now it has an Epstein-like feel. And those votes broke for Dems. The problem is, if we want to be trusted and believed, and you want Americans to trust the process and the nonsense to stop, you can’t behave like this.

From the comments I see on this site, even moderate Democrats are chided and ridiculed for asking questions, and have expressed their disappointment

This wouldn’t be an issue if simple changes were made to count the votes quicker. And who fights against changes such as prepping and counting mail in ballots as the come in, Republicans that is who. If fact, many want all hand counted paper ballots and only counted on or after Election Day! That would take weeks to get any results, and be way less accurate.

Again, you focus on counting. Let me make this simple. If cameras go dark that are supposed to make the process transparent, stop counting and don't dump a bunch of votes.

Do you really believe only the cameras are watching...that there aren't actual people in the room overseeing the process?

This is what I find really difficult to understand. That there are people out there that believe that internet randos watching vote counts remotely is what's going to "stop the steal".

Again, does it matter? The cameras are there for a reason - to bring integrity to the process. When the cameras go down and 9 minutes later there is a large vote dump that erodes a solid lead in a highly contested Senate race, people naturally will question the process. Making fun of those people only cements their viewpoint. I would think every person in the US would want transparency. That people here argue against it? I don't know what to say.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Nevada and Arizona need to take action after this election to get their ducks in a row.
It is ridiculous that tabulating votes is taking this long. Their election officials should be embarrassed.

The reason elections are not trusted. When cameras go dark and they have a vote dump during that time, people are going to be inflamed. Then it has to be explained away by mainstream:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/11/10/livestream-cams-washoe-county-vote-count-area-went-dark-heres-why/10661538002/

Changes require the state legislatures to change the way votes are counted. If you don’t allow mail ballots to be counted until Election Day, then it will take a long time. This is just a simple change, prep and count ballots as they come in. Lots of states do it and you end up with 98-99% counts on election night. Now you can never get 100% on election night because of military ballots and mail postmarks on Election Day, also time to cure ballots. They need that extra week to get the final 1-2%. Still it’s a simple process change that resolves all but the closest elections on election night.

I’m not talking about counting. I’m talking about the live cameras put in so people can observe the process suddenly malfunctioning, during which time a large dump came in, were counted, and added to the tally. If you want to gain the trust of the American people, you wait to count those votes. So now it has an Epstein-like feel. And those votes broke for Dems. The problem is, if we want to be trusted and believed, and you want Americans to trust the process and the nonsense to stop, you can’t behave like this.

From the comments I see on this site, even moderate Democrats are chided and ridiculed for asking questions, and have expressed their disappointment

This wouldn’t be an issue if simple changes were made to count the votes quicker. And who fights against changes such as prepping and counting mail in ballots as the come in, Republicans that is who. If fact, many want all hand counted paper ballots and only counted on or after Election Day! That would take weeks to get any results, and be way less accurate.

Again, you focus on counting. Let me make this simple. If cameras go dark that are supposed to make the process transparent, stop counting and don't dump a bunch of votes.

Do you really believe only the cameras are watching...that there aren't actual people in the room overseeing the process?

Sigh. Do you believe that all people trust the people overseeing the process? That's why there are cameras. To add further credibility.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Nevada and Arizona need to take action after this election to get their ducks in a row.
It is ridiculous that tabulating votes is taking this long. Their election officials should be embarrassed.

The reason elections are not trusted. When cameras go dark and they have a vote dump during that time, people are going to be inflamed. Then it has to be explained away by mainstream:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/11/10/livestream-cams-washoe-county-vote-count-area-went-dark-heres-why/10661538002/

Changes require the state legislatures to change the way votes are counted. If you don’t allow mail ballots to be counted until Election Day, then it will take a long time. This is just a simple change, prep and count ballots as they come in. Lots of states do it and you end up with 98-99% counts on election night. Now you can never get 100% on election night because of military ballots and mail postmarks on Election Day, also time to cure ballots. They need that extra week to get the final 1-2%. Still it’s a simple process change that resolves all but the closest elections on election night.

I’m not talking about counting. I’m talking about the live cameras put in so people can observe the process suddenly malfunctioning, during which time a large dump came in, were counted, and added to the tally. If you want to gain the trust of the American people, you wait to count those votes. So now it has an Epstein-like feel. And those votes broke for Dems. The problem is, if we want to be trusted and believed, and you want Americans to trust the process and the nonsense to stop, you can’t behave like this.

From the comments I see on this site, even moderate Democrats are chided and ridiculed for asking questions, and have expressed their disappointment

This wouldn’t be an issue if simple changes were made to count the votes quicker. And who fights against changes such as prepping and counting mail in ballots as the come in, Republicans that is who. If fact, many want all hand counted paper ballots and only counted on or after Election Day! That would take weeks to get any results, and be way less accurate.

Again, you focus on counting. Let me make this simple. If cameras go dark that are supposed to make the process transparent, stop counting and don't dump a bunch of votes.

Do you really believe only the cameras are watching...that there aren't actual people in the room overseeing the process?

This is what I find really difficult to understand. That there are people out there that believe that internet randos watching vote counts remotely is what's going to "stop the steal".

Again, does it matter? The cameras are there for a reason - to bring integrity to the process. When the cameras go down and 9 minutes later there is a large vote dump that erodes a solid lead in a highly contested Senate race, people naturally will question the process. Making fun of those people only cements their viewpoint. I would think every person in the US would want transparency. That people here argue against it? I don't know what to say.

They should get rid of the cameras altogether. Keep the lawyers and observers. We don't have cameras in Florida. Again, I ask - is the Florida vote compromised? If so I'd like to know because I don't like who got elected. And if not Florida, then why Arizona. Because you can watch the camera some of the time, you think you should see it all of the time - but what about the states where you see it none of the time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can go back about 30 pages where I posted that the aggregate polling data was polluted with crappy GOP polling. The likes of CNN bought it and tried to sell it, but all it did was further energize the left, except in places where voter suppression and gerrymandering were successful (ie FL and WI)

+1 There was a big discussion about this in the Senate thread. Trafalgar is beyond Republican leaning, missed every swing state in 2020, still has an A rating, and was releasing like a dozen polls a week. Every poll had the Ds not getting to 50%, EVEN THE ONE FOR VERMONT SENATE. Hopefully they’ll go back on the trash heap.

538 has some explaining to do.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Nevada and Arizona need to take action after this election to get their ducks in a row.
It is ridiculous that tabulating votes is taking this long. Their election officials should be embarrassed.

The reason elections are not trusted. When cameras go dark and they have a vote dump during that time, people are going to be inflamed. Then it has to be explained away by mainstream:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/11/10/livestream-cams-washoe-county-vote-count-area-went-dark-heres-why/10661538002/

Changes require the state legislatures to change the way votes are counted. If you don’t allow mail ballots to be counted until Election Day, then it will take a long time. This is just a simple change, prep and count ballots as they come in. Lots of states do it and you end up with 98-99% counts on election night. Now you can never get 100% on election night because of military ballots and mail postmarks on Election Day, also time to cure ballots. They need that extra week to get the final 1-2%. Still it’s a simple process change that resolves all but the closest elections on election night.

I’m not talking about counting. I’m talking about the live cameras put in so people can observe the process suddenly malfunctioning, during which time a large dump came in, were counted, and added to the tally. If you want to gain the trust of the American people, you wait to count those votes. So now it has an Epstein-like feel. And those votes broke for Dems. The problem is, if we want to be trusted and believed, and you want Americans to trust the process and the nonsense to stop, you can’t behave like this.

From the comments I see on this site, even moderate Democrats are chided and ridiculed for asking questions, and have expressed their disappointment

This wouldn’t be an issue if simple changes were made to count the votes quicker. And who fights against changes such as prepping and counting mail in ballots as the come in, Republicans that is who. If fact, many want all hand counted paper ballots and only counted on or after Election Day! That would take weeks to get any results, and be way less accurate.

Again, you focus on counting. Let me make this simple. If cameras go dark that are supposed to make the process transparent, stop counting and don't dump a bunch of votes.

Do you really believe only the cameras are watching...that there aren't actual people in the room overseeing the process?

This is what I find really difficult to understand. That there are people out there that believe that internet randos watching vote counts remotely is what's going to "stop the steal".

Again, does it matter? The cameras are there for a reason - to bring integrity to the process. When the cameras go down and 9 minutes later there is a large vote dump that erodes a solid lead in a highly contested Senate race, people naturally will question the process. Making fun of those people only cements their viewpoint. I would think every person in the US would want transparency. That people here argue against it? I don't know what to say.

Something tells me you wouldn’t be coming up with all these fantastical theories if your side was ahead.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Nevada and Arizona need to take action after this election to get their ducks in a row.
It is ridiculous that tabulating votes is taking this long. Their election officials should be embarrassed.

The reason elections are not trusted. When cameras go dark and they have a vote dump during that time, people are going to be inflamed. Then it has to be explained away by mainstream:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/11/10/livestream-cams-washoe-county-vote-count-area-went-dark-heres-why/10661538002/

Changes require the state legislatures to change the way votes are counted. If you don’t allow mail ballots to be counted until Election Day, then it will take a long time. This is just a simple change, prep and count ballots as they come in. Lots of states do it and you end up with 98-99% counts on election night. Now you can never get 100% on election night because of military ballots and mail postmarks on Election Day, also time to cure ballots. They need that extra week to get the final 1-2%. Still it’s a simple process change that resolves all but the closest elections on election night.

I’m not talking about counting. I’m talking about the live cameras put in so people can observe the process suddenly malfunctioning, during which time a large dump came in, were counted, and added to the tally. If you want to gain the trust of the American people, you wait to count those votes. So now it has an Epstein-like feel. And those votes broke for Dems. The problem is, if we want to be trusted and believed, and you want Americans to trust the process and the nonsense to stop, you can’t behave like this.

From the comments I see on this site, even moderate Democrats are chided and ridiculed for asking questions, and have expressed their disappointment

This wouldn’t be an issue if simple changes were made to count the votes quicker. And who fights against changes such as prepping and counting mail in ballots as the come in, Republicans that is who. If fact, many want all hand counted paper ballots and only counted on or after Election Day! That would take weeks to get any results, and be way less accurate.

Again, you focus on counting. Let me make this simple. If cameras go dark that are supposed to make the process transparent, stop counting and don't dump a bunch of votes.

I didn't get to see any of the vote counting in Florida, where my preferred candidates lost. Should I be demanding that the Florida vote be redone too?

No, those are completely legitamate counts because the Republicans won. There is nothing to be questioned.

[Anonymous]

David Trone (D) wins re-election in MD in a district that was redrawn to be more competitive.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Both Nevada and Arizona need to take action after this election to get their ducks in a row.
It is ridiculous that tabulating votes is taking this long. Their election officials should be embarrassed.

The reason elections are not trusted. When cameras go dark and they have a vote dump during that time, people are going to be inflamed. Then it has to be explained away by mainstream:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/11/10/livestream-cams-washoe-county-vote-count-area-went-dark-heres-why/10661538002/

Changes require the state legislatures to change the way votes are counted. If you don’t allow mail ballots to be counted until Election Day, then it will take a long time. This is just a simple change, prep and count ballots as they come in. Lots of states do it and you end up with 98-99% counts on election night. Now you can never get 100% on election night because of military ballots and mail postmarks on Election Day, also time to cure ballots. They need that extra week to get the final 1-2%. Still it’s a simple process change that resolves all but the closest elections on election night.

I’m not talking about counting. I’m talking about the live cameras put in so people can observe the process suddenly malfunctioning, during which time a large dump came in, were counted, and added to the tally. If you want to gain the trust of the American people, you wait to count those votes. So now it has an Epstein-like feel. And those votes broke for Dems. The problem is, if we want to be trusted and believed, and you want Americans to trust the process and the nonsense to stop, you can’t behave like this.

From the comments I see on this site, even moderate Democrats are chided and ridiculed for asking questions, and have expressed their disappointment

It’s not a tv show. Parties and candidates have observers and lawyers there who know how the process works. Nothing happens secretly. Camera feeds in 2020 just enabled delusional idiots to create hoaxes and disinformation about suitcases and flash drives and other bullshit.

Change all parties and candidates, etc to police officers. Without the body cam you simply had to take their word for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both Nevada and Arizona need to take action after this election to get their ducks in a row.
It is ridiculous that tabulating votes is taking this long. Their election officials should be embarrassed.

The reason elections are not trusted. When cameras go dark and they have a vote dump during that time, people are going to be inflamed. Then it has to be explained away by mainstream:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/11/10/livestream-cams-washoe-county-vote-count-area-went-dark-heres-why/10661538002/

Changes require the state legislatures to change the way votes are counted. If you don’t allow mail ballots to be counted until Election Day, then it will take a long time. This is just a simple change, prep and count ballots as they come in. Lots of states do it and you end up with 98-99% counts on election night. Now you can never get 100% on election night because of military ballots and mail postmarks on Election Day, also time to cure ballots. They need that extra week to get the final 1-2%. Still it’s a simple process change that resolves all but the closest elections on election night.

I’m not talking about counting. I’m talking about the live cameras put in so people can observe the process suddenly malfunctioning, during which time a large dump came in, were counted, and added to the tally. If you want to gain the trust of the American people, you wait to count those votes. So now it has an Epstein-like feel. And those votes broke for Dems. The problem is, if we want to be trusted and believed, and you want Americans to trust the process and the nonsense to stop, you can’t behave like this.

From the comments I see on this site, even moderate Democrats are chided and ridiculed for asking questions, and have expressed their disappointment

This wouldn’t be an issue if simple changes were made to count the votes quicker. And who fights against changes such as prepping and counting mail in ballots as the come in, Republicans that is who. If fact, many want all hand counted paper ballots and only counted on or after Election Day! That would take weeks to get any results, and be way less accurate.

Again, you focus on counting. Let me make this simple. If cameras go dark that are supposed to make the process transparent, stop counting and don't dump a bunch of votes.

I didn't get to see any of the vote counting in Florida, where my preferred candidates lost. Should I be demanding that the Florida vote be redone too?

There is probably footage. File an FOIA.

[Anonymous]

Cortez-Masto just tied it up and will likely win based on outstanding votes in Clark County (only 95% counted, where she’s winning 65-35).

Kelly’s lead has increased in AZ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both Nevada and Arizona need to take action after this election to get their ducks in a row.
It is ridiculous that tabulating votes is taking this long. Their election officials should be embarrassed.

The reason elections are not trusted. When cameras go dark and they have a vote dump during that time, people are going to be inflamed. Then it has to be explained away by mainstream:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/11/10/livestream-cams-washoe-county-vote-count-area-went-dark-heres-why/10661538002/

Changes require the state legislatures to change the way votes are counted. If you don’t allow mail ballots to be counted until Election Day, then it will take a long time. This is just a simple change, prep and count ballots as they come in. Lots of states do it and you end up with 98-99% counts on election night. Now you can never get 100% on election night because of military ballots and mail postmarks on Election Day, also time to cure ballots. They need that extra week to get the final 1-2%. Still it’s a simple process change that resolves all but the closest elections on election night.

I’m not talking about counting. I’m talking about the live cameras put in so people can observe the process suddenly malfunctioning, during which time a large dump came in, were counted, and added to the tally. If you want to gain the trust of the American people, you wait to count those votes. So now it has an Epstein-like feel. And those votes broke for Dems. The problem is, if we want to be trusted and believed, and you want Americans to trust the process and the nonsense to stop, you can’t behave like this.

From the comments I see on this site, even moderate Democrats are chided and ridiculed for asking questions, and have expressed their disappointment

This wouldn’t be an issue if simple changes were made to count the votes quicker. And who fights against changes such as prepping and counting mail in ballots as the come in, Republicans that is who. If fact, many want all hand counted paper ballots and only counted on or after Election Day! That would take weeks to get any results, and be way less accurate.

Again, you focus on counting. Let me make this simple. If cameras go dark that are supposed to make the process transparent, stop counting and don't dump a bunch of votes.

Do you really believe only the cameras are watching...that there aren't actual people in the room overseeing the process?

This is what I find really difficult to understand. That there are people out there that believe that internet randos watching vote counts remotely is what's going to "stop the steal".

Again, does it matter? The cameras are there for a reason - to bring integrity to the process. When the cameras go down and 9 minutes later there is a large vote dump that erodes a solid lead in a highly contested Senate race, people naturally will question the process. Making fun of those people only cements their viewpoint. I would think every person in the US would want transparency. That people here argue against it? I don't know what to say.

That’s bullshit. You don’t even have a clue what you are watching. People are sitting at tables, checking signatures on envelopes and verifying and recording they are registered voters who haven’t already voted. They do this all day, in front of observers and lawyers. Then at the end of the day or shift, all those approved ballots are scanned and thousands of votes are added to the totals. They weren’t “dumped.” They have been checked and verified and accumulating all day long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cortez-Masto just tied it up and will likely win based on outstanding votes in Clark County (only 95% counted, where she’s winning 65-35).

Kelly’s lead has increased in AZ.

Kelly’s race is as good as over.