What's the purpose of the Erb?

[Anonymous]

Especially if schools don't use them. My second grader did really well but it seems kind of silly to take the test if it really doesn't mean anything.

[Anonymous]

I wonder too and didn't understand it any better after talking to the school. My straight A+ kid tanked it. All of it. My A/B kid had high scores on everything.

[Anonymous]

Honestly? It is used to help schools determine how well they are doing in teaching core skills compared to other privates and to suburban (i.e. the best) publics. They look at the kids results as a whole and it an help indicate where their program needs a better method or approach.

[Anonymous]

Remember ERB percentile scores can swing wildly even if you only miss a couple of questions...

[Anonymous]

It measures how well the teachers are teaching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly? It is used to help schools determine how well they are doing in teaching core skills compared to other privates and to suburban (i.e. the best) publics. They look at the kids results as a whole and it an help indicate where their program needs a better method or approach.

+1 - schools are generally looking for broad trends across all students to find possible gaps in the curriculum. For example, a signficant number of students might miss a swath of questions related to a certain area of math. That might be an indicator that there's a gap in the curriculum for that particular area.

[Anonymous]

I have one student at a top Ivy and another who is a top student at a Big 3. Based only on their experiences with the ERB, I can conjecture that ERB scores correlate strongly with performance in high school, and particularly with scores on the SAT/ACT, AP Exams, and SAT Subject Tests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have one student at a top Ivy and another who is a top student at a Big 3. Based only on their experiences with the ERB, I can conjecture that ERB scores correlate strongly with performance in high school, and particularly with scores on the SAT/ACT, AP Exams, and SAT Subject Tests.

Maybe say top one more time.

[Anonymous]

Then good to know my child in the 30th percentile will be a waitress someday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have one student at a top Ivy and another who is a top student at a Big 3. Based only on their experiences with the ERB, I can conjecture that ERB scores correlate strongly with performance in high school, and particularly with scores on the SAT/ACT, AP Exams, and SAT Subject Tests.

Based on my experience, I can tell you that some kids are great standardized test takers and some are not. My kid who isn't great at standardized tests is a better student, with better grades, than my kid who nails them. It has nothing to do with high school performance in general.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have one student at a top Ivy and another who is a top student at a Big 3. Based only on their experiences with the ERB, I can conjecture that ERB scores correlate strongly with performance in high school, and particularly with scores on the SAT/ACT, AP Exams, and SAT Subject Tests.

Based on my experience, I can tell you that some kids are great standardized test takers and some are not. My kid who isn't great at standardized tests is a better student, with better grades, than my kid who nails them. It has nothing to do with high school performance in general.

Are your children in high school yet? If not you may be surprised to find that your good student who is an excellent test taker also becomes an excellent student in high school. And you may find in high school that your excellent student who is merely a good test taker is a merely a good student in the more difficult high school classes. Many of the standardized tests measure natural aptitude and IQ. My sister and I were just like your children, and in elementary and middle school she was a good student but a superb standardized test taker. I was an excellent student, but was simply not as good at standardized exams. In high school my sister surpasses me as an excellent student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have one student at a top Ivy and another who is a top student at a Big 3. Based only on their experiences with the ERB, I can conjecture that ERB scores correlate strongly with performance in high school, and particularly with scores on the SAT/ACT, AP Exams, and SAT Subject Tests.

Maybe say top one more time.

It would be obnoxious to say #1 for each, but since you object to my use of "top" there it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have one student at a top Ivy and another who is a top student at a Big 3. Based only on their experiences with the ERB, I can conjecture that ERB scores correlate strongly with performance in high school, and particularly with scores on the SAT/ACT, AP Exams, and SAT Subject Tests.

Based on my experience, I can tell you that some kids are great standardized test takers and some are not. My kid who isn't great at standardized tests is a better student, with better grades, than my kid who nails them. It has nothing to do with high school performance in general.

Are your children in high school yet? If not you may be surprised to find that your good student who is an excellent test taker also becomes an excellent student in high school. And you may find in high school that your excellent student who is merely a good test taker is a merely a good student in the more difficult high school classes. Many of the standardized tests measure natural aptitude and IQ. My sister and I were just like your children, and in elementary and middle school she was a good student but a superb standardized test taker. I was an excellent student, but was simply not as good at standardized exams. In high school my sister surpasses me as an excellent student.

The great test taker/decent student is in high school. Both have taken IQ tests and they are similarly high. Younger one has a better work ethic and time management skills than the older, who likes to live on the edge, doing as little as possible to get an A, and often barely missing it, ending the quarter with an 89 by thinking those small labs, homework, and quizzes don't matter. "Edge" child did best in the most rigorous school s/he attended - seems to do better when standards are high and competition is fierce. Younger child just has high standards about everything s/he does. I guess we'll find out soon- no 2 headed to hs next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Then good to know my child in the 30th percentile will be a waitress someday.

+100 Mine too. I was shocked when my 8th grader told me that several kids at school mentioned they had a tutor for ERBs. This is at a big 3.

[Anonymous]

My brother always scored high on standardized tests but he was super lazy. His teachers couldn't figure out how he could score so high but produce such low grades. He was lazy and he admitted it. I was the opposite. Bleh test scores but I worked like a dog to get good grades. Guess which one graduated from college and graduate school?