ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The RAE deciples realize that going from BY to SY doesn't change anything. Correct?

All you're doing is shifting those most affected from December birthdays to July birthdays. The exact same amount of players are affected.

Using RAE to justify SY is laughable and disingenuous.

It doesn't. The reason for the shift is to keep people more aligned with their grade level. Not trying to stir up debate...but most kids, at least when starting, want to play with their friends. And, it creates a problem for kids in 8th and 12th grade. I personally notice there are only 1-2 late players on the team...they sometimes struggle socially on the team due to the grade difference (maybe what they talk about in 3rd grade is different than 4th grade?).

The retort...seems to be changing to SY won't make your kid better (an RL player wont become an NL player). (although at year below...I think it will--at least for kids who are skilled..but not as athletic or physically mature) And kids don't need to play with friends in competitive soccer anyways. (although it really makes a difference when you are 5 or 6 years old starting out).

The answer to the RL-NL is RAE has a big impact...so there is not something in the star alignment that makes Jan-June birthdays better players...they are just older. But, yes...it won't correct it...instead Q3 and Q4 birthdays will make up 90% of the teams going forward.

They should come up with a way to address RAE...maybe 7v7 until u13. But they won't.

[Anonymous]

How does 7v7 help with RAE. If anything a more physically mature player has a bigger impact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just don't think their is anyway some adjustments are not made. It could be that tournaments can allow each team to use X amount of Q3/4 players. I have no idea but would be more surprised if there was not at least gradual changes being implemented in Fall 25/Spring 26.

Why would they?

It would only make sense if the plan is for US Club/ECNL to goto SY cutoffs for Fall 26. If they have no intention on doing that without a mandate then it would indeed not make sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Incorrect, i haven’t heard of one ECNL director contacting their National or Regional teams to announce no change for Fall 25. They are also waiting for guidance from their league which is US Club.

Our club sent an email noting all of the talk and saying no change for 25/26 but changes for 26/27 but we do not know what those will be yet. Have other clubs done this? I agree with PP I have seen a few of those in this thread from Cali clubs.

US Club (AKA ECNL) has not released a release yet. This scares the Q1/Q2 parents and gives hope to Q3/Q4 parents. I do not think Rec parents really put so much energy into arguing this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What people are forgetting is that there are teams for everyone. BY, SY, GY it really doesnt matter. I honestly think it is a parent "cocktail party" issue to say that you play ECNL or GA. If you are a younger that is playing good minutes on a BY SoCal Blues or Solar then you are at the pinnacle. Literally everyone else can find perfectly good development opportunities in every major market in the country. In NOVA there are 4 clubs with 8 teams that play high level. Pick one where you vibe with the coach and your kid gets 60+min a game and they will be fine. FFS it is still just a game and if they are good enough to play in college the coaches will find them. If you have to work too hard on getting recruited to D1 then look at D2 or D3. I am over all the parents ruining the game for their kids.

Take a breath. It's okay. Nobody is ruining the game. The system was setup to compete. I love your kumbaya approach but you've come to wrong place for that. You hit a good point. If you're with the blues then you've reached the peak and THEN you can relax. You'll get looks. You'll get recruited. The other 99.99% of players need to hustle, NOT relax. They need to train hard, get private sessions in, train with better clubs and climb hard if they want a scholarship. Nothing wrong with that and not dissimilar to how the world works. My daughter is scratching and climbing and she enjoys the process. You cant count on coaches tapping you on the shoulder for scholarships either. Sorry but your join a team and have fun approach could lose people opportunities if they take your advice. I wish the world worked your way but unfortunately....

Said the parent living vicariously through their kid. Train as hard as you want and it still wont be enough to be a YNT member 99.99% of the time. I could train 80 hours a week to play basketball and still wouldn't sniff a pro contract. Let your kid play to the highest level of their ability, based on their interest, not yours, and let the chips fall where they may. To think a BY to SY change will somehow make a kid D1 material who wasn't before, or vice versa, is just ludicrous. Oh, and BTW, one of the things that college coaches have on their checklist is "over involved parent" and it kills more kids chances than BY/SY ever could.

SY to BY made tons of January kids D1 athletes. Do the math my friend. Guess whats going to happen when they switch back? Cmon....you can do it. Add it up. Get out your calculator if you need to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Incorrect, i haven’t heard of one ECNL director contacting their National or Regional teams to announce no change for Fall 25. They are also waiting for guidance from their league which is US Club.

Our club sent an email noting all of the talk and saying no change for 25/26 but changes for 26/27 but we do not know what those will be yet. Have other clubs done this? I agree with PP I have seen a few of those in this thread from Cali clubs.

US Club (AKA ECNL) has not released a release yet. This scares the Q1/Q2 parents and gives hope to Q3/Q4 parents. I do not think Rec parents really put so much energy into arguing this.

Rec parents have no idea what's going on. Most also don't care. There's people that this actually matters to believe it or not. Q4 kids entering the recruiting years need a change ASAP. Q1 kids holding on by a thread are praying for one more year so they can try and be good enough to really be on the team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Incorrect, i haven’t heard of one ECNL director contacting their National or Regional teams to announce no change for Fall 25. They are also waiting for guidance from their league which is US Club.

Our club sent an email noting all of the talk and saying no change for 25/26 but changes for 26/27 but we do not know what those will be yet. Have other clubs done this? I agree with PP I have seen a few of those in this thread from Cali clubs.

US Club (AKA ECNL) has not released a release yet. This scares the Q1/Q2 parents and gives hope to Q3/Q4 parents. I do not think Rec parents really put so much energy into arguing this.

Rec parents have no idea what's going on. Most also don't care. There's people that this actually matters to believe it or not. Q4 kids entering the recruiting years need a change ASAP. Q1 kids holding on by a thread are praying for one more year so they can try and be good enough to really be on the team.

You would be surprised. The way I found out about all this was because a parent whose young kid plays rec shared info on their social media. I think the parent coaches the kid's rec team. I know the kid has a fall birthday. The kid is not athletically inclined and does not have an aggressive bone in their body. I think the parent is a former player wishfully thinking this change will somehow make their kid into a star on the team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does 7v7 help with RAE. If anything a more physically mature player has a bigger impact.

Seriously? Have you never watched or played soccer?

Make the field smaller and more technical players shine. For example, size and speed is not a big advantage in futsal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How does 7v7 help with RAE. If anything a more physically mature player has a bigger impact.

Seriously? Have you never watched or played soccer?

Make the field smaller and more technical players shine. For example, size and speed is not a big advantage in futsal.

That's the opposite that happens the larger kids with no skill plow through the smaller kids. I have a small fast kid she can't wait to get to 11v11. 9v9 on a larger field when she can find space to not get knocked over by someone who weighs twice as much as her she shines.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wasnt US CLub supposed to put out a statement? We have not herd anything from them.

https://usclubsoccer.org/registration-player-age-groups/

My guess is we will know something more definitive in 2 weeks or so. The ECNL podcast seems to align with getting newish information, the chagrin of some on here.

Obviously the final shoe has yet to drop. There is a plan to move to SY we just need to wait to see what it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wasnt US CLub supposed to put out a statement? We have not herd anything from them.

https://usclubsoccer.org/registration-player-age-groups/

My guess is we will know something more definitive in 2 weeks or so. The ECNL podcast seems to align with getting newish information, the chagrin of some on here.

Obviously the final shoe has yet to drop. There is a plan to move to SY we just need to wait to see what it is.

Don't you dare kill hope for the BY crowd. They come here to express their deepest fears and we'll never get 1000 pages if tell them the ship has sailed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does 7v7 help with RAE. If anything a more physically mature player has a bigger impact.

Seriously? Have you never watched or played soccer?

Make the field smaller and more technical players shine. For example, size and speed is not a big advantage in futsal.

That's the opposite that happens the larger kids with no skill plow through the smaller kids. I have a small fast kid she can't wait to get to 11v11. 9v9 on a larger field when she can find space to not get knocked over by someone who weighs twice as much as her she shines.

Two things can be true at once. Big kids have an advantage because rules aren't enforced. If its a futsal, technical environment big clumsy kids struggle. Like everything else we argue about here its nuanced and heavily dependent on whos on the field.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wasnt US CLub supposed to put out a statement? We have not herd anything from them.

https://usclubsoccer.org/registration-player-age-groups/

My guess is we will know something more definitive in 2 weeks or so. The ECNL podcast seems to align with getting newish information, the chagrin of some on here.

Obviously the final shoe has yet to drop. There is a plan to move to SY we just need to wait to see what it is.

Don't you dare kill hope for the BY crowd. They come here to express their deepest fears and we'll never get 1000 pages if tell them the ship has sailed.

Trust the Science RAE is real.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand why RAE keeps being brought up on a thread about BY and SY?

Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why RAE keeps being brought up on a thread about BY and SY?

Why?

Because SY people want you to know your kid isn’t actually amazing they are just lucky to benefit from a system put in place that favors them. SY people want that benefit so bad….