ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which ECNL teams have been told no change for 25/26? Clubs that have teams that play USYS have put out general statements but I haven’t heard of ECNL teams playing US Club soccer being told.

Not one ENCL club hasn't signaled no change for 2026. You may be new to this thread but we didn't get to 400 plus pages on facts and truth. Everyone here is just making stuff up. You'll get used to it.

[Anonymous]

A statement from US Club is what everyone is waiting for..if we want to talk about facts versus "signals"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What people are forgetting is that there are teams for everyone. BY, SY, GY it really doesnt matter. I honestly think it is a parent "cocktail party" issue to say that you play ECNL or GA. If you are a younger that is playing good minutes on a BY SoCal Blues or Solar then you are at the pinnacle. Literally everyone else can find perfectly good development opportunities in every major market in the country. In NOVA there are 4 clubs with 8 teams that play high level. Pick one where you vibe with the coach and your kid gets 60+min a game and they will be fine. FFS it is still just a game and if they are good enough to play in college the coaches will find them. If you have to work too hard on getting recruited to D1 then look at D2 or D3. I am over all the parents ruining the game for their kids.

Take a breath. It's okay. Nobody is ruining the game. The system was setup to compete. I love your kumbaya approach but you've come to wrong place for that. You hit a good point. If you're with the blues then you've reached the peak and THEN you can relax. You'll get looks. You'll get recruited. The other 99.99% of players need to hustle, NOT relax. They need to train hard, get private sessions in, train with better clubs and climb hard if they want a scholarship. Nothing wrong with that and not dissimilar to how the world works. My daughter is scratching and climbing and she enjoys the process. You cant count on coaches tapping you on the shoulder for scholarships either. Sorry but your join a team and have fun approach could lose people opportunities if they take your advice. I wish the world worked your way but unfortunately....

[Anonymous]

I just don't think their is anyway some adjustments are not made. It could be that tournaments can allow each team to use X amount of Q3/4 players. I have no idea but would be more surprised if there was not at least gradual changes being implemented in Fall 25/Spring 26.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A statement from US Club is what everyone is waiting for..if we want to talk about facts versus "signals"

Well put. This is a thread of signals. Some accurate...some, well....not so much. And its nice because its a prism. Everyone sees what they want if they read back far enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What people are forgetting is that there are teams for everyone. BY, SY, GY it really doesnt matter. I honestly think it is a parent "cocktail party" issue to say that you play ECNL or GA. If you are a younger that is playing good minutes on a BY SoCal Blues or Solar then you are at the pinnacle. Literally everyone else can find perfectly good development opportunities in every major market in the country. In NOVA there are 4 clubs with 8 teams that play high level. Pick one where you vibe with the coach and your kid gets 60+min a game and they will be fine. FFS it is still just a game and if they are good enough to play in college the coaches will find them. If you have to work too hard on getting recruited to D1 then look at D2 or D3. I am over all the parents ruining the game for their kids.

CitySC and I think Fram (both GA teams) beat 2010 ECNL Blues in Blues Cup this summer. What's that say about your pinnacle?

https://home.gotsoccer.com/(X(1))/rankings/event.aspx?EventID=95171&GroupID=1283631

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What people are forgetting is that there are teams for everyone. BY, SY, GY it really doesnt matter. I honestly think it is a parent "cocktail party" issue to say that you play ECNL or GA. If you are a younger that is playing good minutes on a BY SoCal Blues or Solar then you are at the pinnacle. Literally everyone else can find perfectly good development opportunities in every major market in the country. In NOVA there are 4 clubs with 8 teams that play high level. Pick one where you vibe with the coach and your kid gets 60+min a game and they will be fine. FFS it is still just a game and if they are good enough to play in college the coaches will find them. If you have to work too hard on getting recruited to D1 then look at D2 or D3. I am over all the parents ruining the game for their kids.

CitySC and I think Fram (both GA teams) beat 2010 ECNL Blues in Blues Cup this summer. What's that say about your pinnacle?

https://home.gotsoccer.com/(X(1))/rankings/event.aspx?EventID=95171&GroupID=1283631

lol, relax. You found one team at a moment in time. Chill out. Nobody ever said the entire club and all teams are unbeatable. Nobody said undefeated. Play the 2011 team 10x. My money is they smoke you like a cigarillo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The RAE deciples realize that going from BY to SY doesn't change anything. Correct?

All you're doing is shifting those most affected from December birthdays to July birthdays. The exact same amount of players are affected.

Using RAE to justify SY is laughable and disingenuous.

Option A: kids are arranged by scheme 1, but kids born Q4 must pay double the club fees as Q1-3.
Option B: kids are arranged by scheme 2, but kids born Q4 pay the same fees as Q1-3.

In (A), Q4 will be underrepresented to a greater degree than in (B). In both cases, the window is 12-months. I think many people would say that this means RAE is "worse" under (A) than under (B). But it sounds like some people would say it's the "same" because it exists in both options. Or they would say it's the "same" because the quitters self-selected to quit in light of the additional burden. Imo, any bias that contributes to the representation discrepancy across quarters is a relative age effect, even if it's not strictly a function of physical maturity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What people are forgetting is that there are teams for everyone. BY, SY, GY it really doesnt matter. I honestly think it is a parent "cocktail party" issue to say that you play ECNL or GA. If you are a younger that is playing good minutes on a BY SoCal Blues or Solar then you are at the pinnacle. Literally everyone else can find perfectly good development opportunities in every major market in the country. In NOVA there are 4 clubs with 8 teams that play high level. Pick one where you vibe with the coach and your kid gets 60+min a game and they will be fine. FFS it is still just a game and if they are good enough to play in college the coaches will find them. If you have to work too hard on getting recruited to D1 then look at D2 or D3. I am over all the parents ruining the game for their kids.

CitySC and I think Fram (both GA teams) beat 2010 ECNL Blues in Blues Cup this summer. What's that say about your pinnacle?

https://home.gotsoccer.com/(X(1))/rankings/event.aspx?EventID=95171&GroupID=1283631

That you are a pedantic moron?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What people are forgetting is that there are teams for everyone. BY, SY, GY it really doesnt matter. I honestly think it is a parent "cocktail party" issue to say that you play ECNL or GA. If you are a younger that is playing good minutes on a BY SoCal Blues or Solar then you are at the pinnacle. Literally everyone else can find perfectly good development opportunities in every major market in the country. In NOVA there are 4 clubs with 8 teams that play high level. Pick one where you vibe with the coach and your kid gets 60+min a game and they will be fine. FFS it is still just a game and if they are good enough to play in college the coaches will find them. If you have to work too hard on getting recruited to D1 then look at D2 or D3. I am over all the parents ruining the game for their kids.

Take a breath. It's okay. Nobody is ruining the game. The system was setup to compete. I love your kumbaya approach but you've come to wrong place for that. You hit a good point. If you're with the blues then you've reached the peak and THEN you can relax. You'll get looks. You'll get recruited. The other 99.99% of players need to hustle, NOT relax. They need to train hard, get private sessions in, train with better clubs and climb hard if they want a scholarship. Nothing wrong with that and not dissimilar to how the world works. My daughter is scratching and climbing and she enjoys the process. You cant count on coaches tapping you on the shoulder for scholarships either. Sorry but your join a team and have fun approach could lose people opportunities if they take your advice. I wish the world worked your way but unfortunately....

Said the parent living vicariously through their kid. Train as hard as you want and it still wont be enough to be a YNT member 99.99% of the time. I could train 80 hours a week to play basketball and still wouldn't sniff a pro contract. Let your kid play to the highest level of their ability, based on their interest, not yours, and let the chips fall where they may. To think a BY to SY change will somehow make a kid D1 material who wasn't before, or vice versa, is just ludicrous. Oh, and BTW, one of the things that college coaches have on their checklist is "over involved parent" and it kills more kids chances than BY/SY ever could.

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Anonymous wrote:It helps if you've coached or managed human beings. Children especially. They are sponges picking up on tiny signals telling them who they are and what they're worth.

My daughter is a Q4 kid that believes she's amazing. She's an incredible athlete that is far faster and stronger than 2013's but average for 2012's because she's a year behind her peers.

Keeping her motivated and loving soccer has been intentional and difficult at times. Let's just accept RAE and find ways to mitigate it the best we can along a childs journey. We'll keep more kids playing that way and develop a stronger soccer culture in the US, which the the goal we all have.

A year? So every other child on every team she has been on was born 11.75 months before her? Come on. Some of the girls are only a few months older than yours. And don't give me the grade level argument, especially for a girl. Being in a grade below some or most teammates does not cause some dramatic change in how a child is able to learn how to play a sport.

Stop acting like every kid not born in Q4 is so much older and more mature than your child. She is playing against plenty of kids born in Q2 and Q3. The drama from the Q4 parents is ridiculous. Your kid is not "playing up" right now and they will not be "playing down" if the age cutoffs change. If your kid was truly good none of this would matter. Get over it.

Umm...yes. A year. Stick to subjects you know, this clearly isn't one of them. Half the team is Jan-Mar (not uncommon on high level teams BTW), she's early December and most other scatter between Mar and July. 90% of the team is in junior high and she goes to a small elementary school. Do you have ANY idea the disparity between a small elementary school and junior high girls?? Bwahahaha, it wasn't this bad when they were all in elelmentary but this year has been a nightmare. The whole team turned into women and my kid still likes barbies. I'll spare you the things she learned about this year from her teammates. Let's just say she is now maturing rapidly past her classmates because this team spends so much time together and its straining her school relationships. She sees them as little kids, its WEIRD and unnecessary. My kids a killer on the field, Im not worried about soccer. I let her play with 6th graders once and by the time 3 of them cried due to her aggression I pulled her off the field after her 3rd goal. When this change goes down I feel bad for other 6th graders, I may just keep her playing up. None of that is the point. You're wrong all over. She is playing up on and off the field right now. Playing with 6th graders will be playing down...trust me.

So you admit that half the team is not actually a year older than her. Next year the “little girls” will be in middle school too and these maturity differences get a lot smaller. I think you just like to come on here and brag about how good your daughter is. Does she know you do that? How embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which ECNL teams have been told no change for 25/26? Clubs that have teams that play USYS have put out general statements but I haven’t heard of ECNL teams playing US Club soccer being told.

Not one ENCL club hasn't signaled no change for 2026. You may be new to this thread but we didn't get to 400 plus pages on facts and truth. Everyone here is just making stuff up. You'll get used to it.

All clubs have gone out to people and said no changes. Many of those communciations are in the 400 plus pages of this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just don't think their is anyway some adjustments are not made. It could be that tournaments can allow each team to use X amount of Q3/4 players. I have no idea but would be more surprised if there was not at least gradual changes being implemented in Fall 25/Spring 26.

Why would they?

[Anonymous]

Incorrect, i haven’t heard of one ECNL director contacting their National or Regional teams to announce no change for Fall 25. They are also waiting for guidance from their league which is US Club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Incorrect, i haven’t heard of one ECNL director contacting their National or Regional teams to announce no change for Fall 25. They are also waiting for guidance from their league which is US Club.

Our club sent an email noting all of the talk and saying no change for 25/26 but changes for 26/27 but we do not know what those will be yet. Have other clubs done this? I agree with PP I have seen a few of those in this thread from Cali clubs.