LAMB or Stokes?

Anonymous
Would appreciate hearing any opinions between the two!
Anonymous
I can't imagine anyone has experience with both. I'd pick the one who's acolytes didn't tried the least to sell me on it.
Anonymous
Pick the better commute. If that's a wash I'd go with Stokes. Too much drama at LAMB just now after the scandal.
Anonymous
Lamb is a significantly better school though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Lamb is a significantly better school though.


It is much wealthier. I'm not convinced it is better.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lamb is a significantly better school though.


It is much wealthier. I'm not convinced it is better.


Based on?
Anonymous
Wow, talk about winning the lotter(ies)!! Congrats. Do you prefer Montessori or not now and what about long term? Which is a better commute for your family? What about green space? School leadership? Test scores? Parent communication?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lamb is a significantly better school though.


It is much wealthier. I'm not convinced it is better.


Based on?


From OSSE.

Stokes - 53% economically disadvantaged students
LAMB - 27.8% economically disadvantaged students
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lamb is a significantly better school though.


It is much wealthier. I'm not convinced it is better.


Based on?


From OSSE.

Stokes - 53% economically disadvantaged students
LAMB - 27.8% economically disadvantaged students


I asked why you aren't convinced lamb is better. It outscored stokes test wise and the Spanish program I find a bit weak. Both good choices though for sure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lamb is a significantly better school though.


It is much wealthier. I'm not convinced it is better.


Based on?


From OSSE.

Stokes - 53% economically disadvantaged students
LAMB - 27.8% economically disadvantaged students


I asked why you aren't convinced lamb is better. It outscored stokes test wise and the Spanish program I find a bit weak. Both good choices though for sure.


Because the test results are skewed by the demographics of the school population. I think they arej both good schools, and you wind up at DCI. So the question is do you really want Montessori? Do you want to move your child among various campuses over the years as they get olde (which will happen at LAMB). Which commute works best -- are you ok with either the Missouri Avenue or Perry St campus?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lamb is a significantly better school though.


It is much wealthier. I'm not convinced it is better.


Based on?


From OSSE.

Stokes - 53% economically disadvantaged students
LAMB - 27.8% economically disadvantaged students


I asked why you aren't convinced lamb is better. It outscored stokes test wise and the Spanish program I find a bit weak. Both good choices though for sure.


Do you find the Spanish program weak at LAMB or Stokes?
Anonymous
We have experienced both schools. LAMB was a better fit for us: Spanish is *much* stronger at LAMB, also instruction is less structured (which is a better fit with our kids), and the sense of community is stronger at LAMB. We loved Stokes and their teachers but I think LAMB, even with all the events that happened in the last month, is and will be a much better school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lamb is a significantly better school though.


It is much wealthier. I'm not convinced it is better.


Based on?


From OSSE.

Stokes - 53% economically disadvantaged students
LAMB - 27.8% economically disadvantaged students


I asked why you aren't convinced lamb is better. It outscored stokes test wise and the Spanish program I find a bit weak. Both good choices though for sure.


Do you find the Spanish program weak at LAMB or Stokes?


I find the Spanish at stokes to be weaker.
Anonymous
Tough call, we went to LAMB and were terribly unhappy with it, left for private after 2 years which we can't really comfortably afford. We have a lot of neighbors at Stokes and they seem to be very happy with it, but not sure if it would actually work better for my son.

Here are some differences I'm aware of:

LAMB, no homework, Stokes gives homework

The curriculum is quite different obviously, I'd read books on Montessori and believed wholeheartedly in it, even used Montessori techniques at home with my son when he was 1 and 2, unfortunately LAMB isn't true Montessori, the teacher's admitted to me they have to teach to the test and in the afternoons instead of letting children select their activities my son was forced to do a rotation at a Math table and at a reading table, he got in trouble for drawing one day, he was doing these lovely intricate little drawing which looked like excellent pre-writing practice and right in line with Montessori, but he was supposed to do Math.

The communities at both seem good, Stokes does lots of plays and parades and school activities. LAMB has monthly peace ceremonies and the parent community is incredible.

My son learned Spanish easily at LAMB, can't really compare to Stokes.

I have talked to a lot of other LAMB parents, many have frustrations with the rigidity of the school and lack of communication. Some I know who joined in ps-4 said their kids always said it wasn't fun and wanted to go back their old school. Kids from Stokes seem to enjoy school, but maybe a Stokes parent can comment on that. Many people I knew said their kids didn't want to go in the mornings and would have difficult mornings. Preschool for 3 & 4 year olds should be fun, in my opinion, they shouldn't be developing a lifelong hatred for school. I don't know if this is par for the course, but after reading articles in the Post about how early preschool programs done poorly can cause burnout and school fatigue for kids as they age, this seems to be the case at LAMB and is something I would be concerned about.

My son was miserable at LAMB, we eventually had him diagnosed with ADHD but the school was absolutely no help, they refused to evaluate him at all because he tested 1-2 years ahead academically. It would take months for Cristina to return emails to me, it took until the end of our 2nd year to even have a meeting with intervention specialists etc. I was criticized as parent (not by Cristina but by a teacher, told I needed a parenting class because I'm a young mom and we research a car before buying one, so I should really research parenting...)

When we talked with Cristina she said our problems weren't the school's responsibility. The teachers told me they were asking the administration for help in the classroom, and received nothing. My son and the other students, needed more movement, and the teachers would sneak the kids out for extra time on the playground with excuses ready (like we're cleaning the classroom) so that they could let the kids move more. I've visited the teachers to let my son say hi since leaving and morale is low, they are miserable and frustrated with the administration, and said thank goodness I pulled him out or he would have been miserable. They're frustrated with the lack of support and frustrated with the rigidness of the school and how kids are barely allowed to move or play. As we were leaving and I began opening up to other parents I learned that almost every boy in his class was being diagnosed with anxiety or ADHD. I have friends in other classes and have not heard the same from them.

Our neighbors at Stokes also have a kid with ADHD, homework battles can be difficult and they've struggled, but the administration seemed to jump at the opportunity to help them. Their circumstances are different (their kid was testing behind) so I'm not sure I can definitively say this is a problem with LAMB or just the nature of having a 2E kid. At his private school now he's like a different person, so I definitely blame the school environment, however it doesn't mean it won't work for other kids.
Anonymous
I am a stokes spanish parent and we've been there for 3 years and we've been thrilled. Its a very strong community of parents, teachers and kids. I have very good friends who are at LAMB with same age kids and they are very happy too (upset over recent events of course). I'd think about whether you have the right kid for montessori and I would consider commute.
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