Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia

Anonymous
How many more will die under this Governor?
Why didn't he let the police or the National Guard intervene sooner, before someone got killed?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How many more will die under this Governor?
Why didn't he let the police or the National Guard intervene sooner, before someone got killed?


Because he was following a court order.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How many more will die under this Governor?
Why didn't he let the police or the National Guard intervene sooner, before someone got killed?


Quit sock puppeting. Nobody is letting you use McAulliffe as a shiny distraction.
Anonymous
It's only a day later and already the alt-right crazies are trying to change the facts.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/08/11/charlottesville-braces-itself-yet-another-white-nationalist-rally-saturday/560829001/
Anonymous
This story and photo will haunt me. It's 2017. 8 staples in his head, a broken wrist and chipped tooth. No one arrested. All these people standing around watching. WTF!


http://www.theroot.com/interview-20-year-old-deandre-harris-speaks-out-about-1797796038/amp
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many more will die under this Governor?
Why didn't he let the police or the National Guard intervene sooner, before someone got killed?


Because he was following a court order.


This. The Governor was in a damned did you do/ damned if you don't situation. The City had public safety concerns before the rally took place and said they couldn't secure the demonstration area. They tried to move it to an area that could be better secured. And a federal Court ordered them not to.

http://www.nbc29.com/story/36115819/judge-grants-injunction-jason-kessler-can-have-unite-the-right-rally-at-emancipation-park

If McAuliffe had moved the National Guard in before he absolutely had to, the Alt right would have sued. He didn't more them fast enough, and people are pissed.

Here's an idea, maybe the Alt right (and the ACLU, who represented them) should have worked with law enforcement to ensure public safety? Instead of forcing them to allow a protest that the CITY SAID WAS UNSAFE.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This story and photo will haunt me. It's 2017. 8 staples in his head, a broken wrist and chipped tooth. No one arrested. All these people standing around watching. WTF!


http://www.theroot.com/interview-20-year-old-deandre-harris-speaks-out-about-1797796038/amp


Sorry, I don't read articles from The Root.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many more will die under this Governor?
Why didn't he let the police or the National Guard intervene sooner, before someone got killed?


Because he was following a court order.


This. The Governor was in a damned did you do/ damned if you don't situation. The City had public safety concerns before the rally took place and said they couldn't secure the demonstration area. They tried to move it to an area that could be better secured. And a federal Court ordered them not to.

http://www.nbc29.com/story/36115819/judge-grants-injunction-jason-kessler-can-have-unite-the-right-rally-at-emancipation-park

If McAuliffe had moved the National Guard in before he absolutely had to, the Alt right would have sued. He didn't more them fast enough, and people are pissed.

Here's an idea, maybe the Alt right (and the ACLU, who represented them) should have worked with law enforcement to ensure public safety? Instead of forcing them to allow a protest that the CITY SAID WAS UNSAFE.


Yep. Big ACLU supporter here, but they need to reflect now.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Antifa are the losers who violently protest legally protected political speech across the globe. The. Globe.

KKK are revolting and Charlottesville *shouldn't* have issued the permit if they didn't anticipate Antifa vs KKK. If they didn't they were asleep at the switch.


You do realize that peaceful counterprotests are as constitutionally protected as the protests themselves, right? Trumpkins seem to think that they have the right to protest, but everyone else has to STFU and not call them on their sh*t. That's not the way the 1st Amendment works. You get to hold a white pride rally. The ACLU will fight for your right to do so. And we get to protest your white pride rally.

It works until you decide that your views should not be challenged and mow down pedestrians.

Why was so much violence allowed, before the police finally stepped in?


This. This. This. I posted bystanders should go home before the death because anyone could see a matchup between Antifa and KKK is a place to stay away from unless you are looking for trouble. See North Korea.


I totally agree with this. I think the protestors were looking for trouble, per the WaPo.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This story and photo will haunt me. It's 2017. 8 staples in his head, a broken wrist and chipped tooth. No one arrested. All these people standing around watching. WTF!


http://www.theroot.com/interview-20-year-old-deandre-harris-speaks-out-about-1797796038/amp



Sorry, I don't read articles from The Root.


Well good for you. Several white nationalists chased a 20 year old black man into a parking garage and beat him with poles. There are video footage and photos. Awake now?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:One should always look at both sides of a story, regardless of a lone wolf who will get the justice our laws requires.

https://www.propublica.org/article/police-stood-by-as-mayhem-mounted-in-charlottesville


The actual story doesn't hew to your perspective. Reading is fundamental, hoss. ProPublica's reporters witnessed armed, militarized white supremacists attacking protestors with minimal police intervention. Again: learn to read.


I did read it hoss yet once again you failed to see the reality of yesterday. The Alt-right didn't use those armed militarized weapons against the Soros backed BLM movement. Rather they went home and walked away. Did Mr Fields have a shield, camo or automatic weapons in the trunk of his car?


Mr. Fields is a lone wolf, IMO. Apparently his dad was killed by a drunk driver shortly before or after his death. His anger has been brewing for a long time. This is not to excuse his actions in any way shape or form. His actions, his choices.

Obviously, if the alt right group had been able to conduct their gathering in the park without the presence of the protestors there would have been a different outcome. Lives would have been saved. The alt right was the keg of gun powder, the protestors were the spark that ignited that one individual. From what I've read (WaPo) the protestors were right in the thick throwing punches, spraying toxic chemicals, etc.


This is a interesting response, but expected.

When a minority has been identified as a killer or just a simple threat, our culture delves into his background to find things that explain how he got to that point. But it's always a search for signs of criminality or bad behavior. When a white person is identified as a killer or threat, our culture digs into their background to find hardship or factors beyond their control to explain how they finally just lost it.

Then there's the effort to completely ignore the provable fact that Mr. Fields joined others who showed up at this event with a very specific intent to fight. They brought shields and flags on poles that were used as weapons. The promotional materials weren't for a peaceful protest, they were for a battle. They didn't just expect protesters, they wanted them.

Once the police dispersed the crowd, Mr. Fields did not go home. He went back to his car and returned to inflict mass casualty.

This pp says s/he doesn't want to excuse Fields' actions, but the narrative s/he presented is trying to do just that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Antifa are the losers who violently protest legally protected political speech across the globe. The. Globe.

KKK are revolting and Charlottesville *shouldn't* have issued the permit if they didn't anticipate Antifa vs KKK. If they didn't they were asleep at the switch.


You do realize that peaceful counterprotests are as constitutionally protected as the protests themselves, right? Trumpkins seem to think that they have the right to protest, but everyone else has to STFU and not call them on their sh*t. That's not the way the 1st Amendment works. You get to hold a white pride rally. The ACLU will fight for your right to do so. And we get to protest your white pride rally.

It works until you decide that your views should not be challenged and mow down pedestrians.


Werent counter protestors asked to stay away by the virginia governor?


Yes, exactly. However, they didn't listen, and look at the results. Sadl


This message brought to you by a mental midget who thinks women in short skirts are asking to be raped.


Hmm, not sure where you are getting that from. Delusional much?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One should always look at both sides of a story, regardless of a lone wolf who will get the justice our laws requires.

https://www.propublica.org/article/police-stood-by-as-mayhem-mounted-in-charlottesville


The actual story doesn't hew to your perspective. Reading is fundamental, hoss. ProPublica's reporters witnessed armed, militarized white supremacists attacking protestors with minimal police intervention. Again: learn to read.


I did read it hoss yet once again you failed to see the reality of yesterday. The Alt-right didn't use those armed militarized weapons against the Soros backed BLM movement. Rather they went home and walked away. Did Mr Fields have a shield, camo or automatic weapons in the trunk of his car?


Mr. Fields is a lone wolf, IMO. Apparently his dad was killed by a drunk driver shortly before or after his death. His anger has been brewing for a long time. This is not to excuse his actions in any way shape or form. His actions, his choices.

Obviously, if the alt right group had been able to conduct their gathering in the park without the presence of the protestors there would have been a different outcome. Lives would have been saved. The alt right was the keg of gun powder, the protestors were the spark that ignited that one individual. From what I've read (WaPo) the protestors were right in the thick throwing punches, spraying toxic chemicals, etc.


This is a interesting response, but expected.

When a minority has been identified as a killer or just a simple threat, our culture delves into his background to find things that explain how he got to that point. But it's always a search for signs of criminality or bad behavior. When a white person is identified as a killer or threat, our culture digs into their background to find hardship or factors beyond their control to explain how they finally just lost it.

Then there's the effort to completely ignore the provable fact that Mr. Fields joined others who showed up at this event with a very specific intent to fight. They brought shields and flags on poles that were used as weapons. The promotional materials weren't for a peaceful protest, they were for a battle. They didn't just expect protesters, they wanted them.

Once the police dispersed the crowd, Mr. Fields did not go home. He went back to his car and returned to inflict mass casualty.

This pp says s/he doesn't want to excuse Fields' actions, but the narrative s/he presented is trying to do just that.


Anonymous
Of course he's a lone wolf. White terrorists always get blessed with that exculpatory label. It's only Muslims who are proxy for a massive worldwide religion when they act.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am against all forms of bigotry, regardless of the color of the skin. The Alt-right movement isn't about racism, rather the identification of the white race being maligned. They came to protest a removal of a statue in the PC world of what Virginia has become, nothing more. I agree there were elements of this group that is racist, but not the vast majority and certainly not the purpose of this protest.

I condemn all forms of violence, regardless of party affiliation. Peaceful protest of all forms should be allowed and in the end I condemn McAwful for canceling the protest at Lee Park yesterday which helped escalated the violence.


You keep telling yourself this stuff. If it was meant to be a peaceful protest, why did a number o them show up in full camo and military garb including assault rifles? Why are they singing Nazi songs and brandishing swaztikas? You all keep saying we should get over losing the election. You all should get over having lost a war 150 years ago. You should also get over the local governments what were legally voted into office legally removing these symbols of hate and oppression.
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