Wootton Announces They Have Formally Retained Silverman & Thompson

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Anonymous wrote:Stop stretching. The reason for the move mainly is Wootton per you all is unsafe.


But it isn’t. Slide says it can be used tomorrow.


The advocates for Wootton said it is unsafe. MCPS wasn't saying that. They catered to those complaining about the building who are now pretending that's not true. They probably would never have done this if the advocates weren't so vocal about the building's safety.


That’s not really an accurate framing.

Advocating for renovations isn’t the same as saying the school is “unsafe”—and what people consistently asked for was renovation at Wootton’s current location, not relocation.

Wootton was in the CIP and then removed multiple times. The community wasn’t pushing for some drastic solution—they were asking MCPS to follow through on long-planned modernization.

If anything, this situation exists because MCPS deferred and reshuffled its own priorities over several cycles.

Now relocation is being presented as the solution, but that’s not because advocates demanded it—it’s because prior commitments weren’t carried out.

So the idea that: “advocates complained and forced this outcome” gets it backwards. Advocates asked for renovation. MCPS didn’t deliver, and is now proposing relocation to deal with the consequences of those decisions.


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Not a hard concept to grasp but for someone reason every time this distinction gets brought up, it is ignored.

Can someone point me to a single—just one—Wootton advocate who has ever advocated for closure of the school?

The trolls on this thread are aligned with MCPS with the ends justify the means so they’ll continue with the false narrative of Wootton asked for this.

May suit you now but when MCPS uses this same logic against you and closes your school…


No one thinks you’re advocating for that - but what you’re asking for, near-term renovations, isn’t possible because of the realities of the CIP budget and the massive county-wide repair and renovation needs (and please miss me with the “they could find the money if they really wanted to arguments.” State, county, district budgets are bleak everywhere right now)

So what we think is that there were two realistic choices: 1) move Wootton to Crown or 2) wait 10 years and hope that nothing catastrophic happens to any high schools outside of Wootton and Magruder so that Wootton can maybe get on the CIP. There are lots of different opinions on how bad Wootton is (I personally tend to believe the students and teachers and news reports about gas leaks, but that’s just me), but I do think there’s consensus that it’s bad enough that it cannot wait ten years.

We think option 1 is a much better approach to meet your needs for a safe school because the ONLY alternative is Option 2. There is no option 3 that sees the school getting fixed in the next 10 years. It’s not that we don’t get what you’re asking for - it’s that we are more emotionally ready to accept that MCPS is only dealing in the world of possible options.


I get the point about budget constraints, but that still feels too black-and-white.

It assumes the only two options are “move Wootton now” or “wait 10 years,” and that’s doing a lot of work.

Even within a tight CIP, there are usually middle-ground options: targeted capital repairs, phased modernization, fixing specific issues (HVAC, gas, etc.) in the near term, or reprioritizing projects, which MCPS does all the time. Saying “there is no option 3” is more of a choice than an absolute reality.

It’s also hard to ignore that Wootton was taken off the CIP multiple times. That’s part of how things got here. When something is deferred repeatedly and then the only “feasible” solution becomes relocation, it’s fair to question whether that’s just about budget—or also about earlier decisions.

And stepping back even further: MCPS moved forward building Crown at a time when enrollment projections were already shifting, in part to avoid losing the site. Now there’s a brand new school that needs to be filled, and suddenly relocation becomes the “only” solution. That context matters.

And on safety: If conditions are truly urgent, that usually points to targeted fixes now, not a multi-year relocation that doesn’t address immediate issues.

So this isn’t about ignoring financial reality. It’s about pushing back on the idea that:

“This is the only possible path.”

That’s not a fact—it’s a conclusion.



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Of course, County taxpayers can shift resources from other needs to renovate Wootton, but that would harm other kids purely for the vanity of Parkway families who are too snobby to send their kids to high school in Gaithersburg. Gmafb you selfish twat


That’s not a fair characterization. And resorting to insults means I hit close to the mark and you’ve got nothing.

Wanting Wootton renovated isn’t “vanity”—it’s asking MCPS to do what it should have done years ago instead of deferring it repeatedly.

No one is saying take resources from other kids. MCPS created this situation through its own decisions, and now it’s presenting a Hobson’s choice—move the school or wait a decade or mire—as if those are the only options.

That conveniently solves MCPS’s political problem (filling a new school and avoiding past mistakes), but it doesn’t mean it’s the right or only solution for students or the community.


Ahhh yes, this old chestnut. We know you are asking for Wootton to be renovated. We hear you loud and clear. We even agree this is a nice idea! However...the county is broke. There is no money for renovation. Especially when there's a brand new space three miles away that surprise!- they can't fill otherwise.


Ah yes, “the county is broke”—as if that ends the discussion.

Lack of money for a full renovation doesn’t automatically mean relocation is the only option.

MCPS makes capital choices all the time—phasing projects, prioritizing certain fixes, adjusting timelines. Saying there’s zero path to address Wootton other than moving it ignores the flexibility that exists within the CIP. Also, don’t forget about the hundreds of millions of dollars spent illegally on EV buses and litigating a case all the way to the Supreme Court based solely on ideological grounds. If MCPS were to stop these types of virtue signaling activities, the money would be there.

And the second point kind of proves the concern:

“There’s a brand new school they can’t fill” isn’t a neutral fact—it’s the result of prior decisions.

Now relocation conveniently solves that problem. That may be practical for MCPS, but it doesn’t mean it’s the only or best solution for the community.


What you are saying is the fact that as of today, relocating Wootton to Crown is the most cost efficient option should not matter. As a taxpayer, I emphatically disagree and find you deeply, deeply selfish. You got a new school..take the freaking win.


I think that’s a misread of what I’m saying.

Cost matters—but it’s not the only factor, and it shouldn’t automatically outweigh everything else.

A community isn’t just numbers on a spreadsheet. Relocating an entire school affects continuity, identity, and the stability families built their lives around. Those impacts don’t disappear just because one option is cheaper on paper.

And respectfully, asking MCPS to follow through on a long-planned renovation isn’t “selfish”—it’s asking them to honor commitments they made to the community.

And on the taxpayer point—it cuts both ways.

One group can say “as taxpayers we want the most cost-efficient option,” while another can say “as taxpayers we expect consistent planning and follow-through, not shifting plans that create disruption.”

Taxpayers don’t get to dictate decisions based on a single priority. These choices are supposed to balance cost with long-term planning, community impact, and educational outcomes.

You can weigh cost more heavily, that’s fair. But treating it as the only factor—and dismissing everything else—misses what’s actually at stake.


Just be honest. You don't care one bit about the cost to taxpayers.

I'll be honest. I don't care about your sense of community to the extent it is tied to a moldy school building. I would love for MCPS to have had money to address ALL of the system's aging buildings in a timely fashion. The only way they could have done that is by keeping raises and benefits for staff down. Go ahead, add up all the wasteful spending you can find and report back on how many schools could have been renovated with that. It won't be enough.

I know you've been telling your kids all about how much money you spent on your old small house so your kids could walk to Wootton..and now they will have to get a bus a few miles to a brand new school in Gaithersburg with some Gaithersburg kids. I'm sorry, but I don't feel you or your kids are getting the short end of the stick in any way.


Raises and benefits are the least of the concerns. There is tons of waste but still not enough to fix all the schools immediately.

Wootton boarders Gaithersburg and is in some places.
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Anonymous wrote:And here it is: (well, not a lawsuit, but an appeal to the State BoE).

Silverman Thompson has filed a formal request for a stay with the Maryland State Superintendent, asking the State to pause implementation of Modified Option H while the decision is reviewed. The filing raises serious concerns, including whether Modified Option H is effectively closing Wootton under the label of a “relocation,” and whether flawed enrollment projections were used to justify the decision.

This is just the beginning. If the stay is not granted, we will immediately appeal. We are prepared to continue through administrative court and ultimately pursue litigation in circuit court.

The filing challenges multiple aspects of the Board’s decision, including:
• Failure to follow legally required procedures for closing a school
• Use of flawed or potentially misleading data to justify the outcome
• Risk of immediate and irreversible harm to affected students and families

Seems like a weak case. I've already seen other lawsuits that tried to argue the "we think they used the wrong data", which never wins; State BoE defers to the local BoE.

Then there's the "actually this is a de-facto closure"; personally, I think this is a bogus argument, especially because if they know it's a school closure by the law's definition, they wouldn't use the weasel word "de-facto".

P.S. Again, I'd urge the "Save Wootton" parents to pursue the solution electorally. The solution you're trying to find is not going to be found in the courts, but can be done by our elected officials.



LOL what elected officials?


County Council and BoE. The ones who control the budget and make the final decisions regarding the schools.

There's a huge amount of turnover happening this year, a lot of open seats, so it seems like the perfect time for a dedicated group to get commitments to reverse the decision.

The amount of money they're spending on a law firm is better spent on lobbying and contributions to politicians rather than launching a doomed legal challenge.


I’m not a part of the cluster so maybe they know something I don’t. But I do think it’s interesting that it’s been almost two weeks since they’ve filed and the state hasn’t responded. That’s quite unusual…

I will say as a neighboring cluster, I am fairly certain they are in fact is lobbying (I know we are)


I hardly think 2 weeks is "quite unusual" especially when those two weeks fell over holidays although I know that some in our chat used it as a hopeful hint since the lawyers said that the last time they received denial it came within 48 hours.



There is no two weeks. MSDE answers to no one. They respond when they want to. The pp has no clue what will happen. It’s just another attempt by TT’s huge PR machine. How did TT’s fun run work out?


They don’t need to respond. You file.


No one here has any lick of an idea as to how this actually works and it’s pretty funny. Like the other PP said, just trolls and AI fighting back and forth.


We know what it takes to file a lawsuit. You’ve had many months.
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Anonymous wrote:And here it is: (well, not a lawsuit, but an appeal to the State BoE).

Silverman Thompson has filed a formal request for a stay with the Maryland State Superintendent, asking the State to pause implementation of Modified Option H while the decision is reviewed. The filing raises serious concerns, including whether Modified Option H is effectively closing Wootton under the label of a “relocation,” and whether flawed enrollment projections were used to justify the decision.

This is just the beginning. If the stay is not granted, we will immediately appeal. We are prepared to continue through administrative court and ultimately pursue litigation in circuit court.

The filing challenges multiple aspects of the Board’s decision, including:
• Failure to follow legally required procedures for closing a school
• Use of flawed or potentially misleading data to justify the outcome
• Risk of immediate and irreversible harm to affected students and families

Seems like a weak case. I've already seen other lawsuits that tried to argue the "we think they used the wrong data", which never wins; State BoE defers to the local BoE.

Then there's the "actually this is a de-facto closure"; personally, I think this is a bogus argument, especially because if they know it's a school closure by the law's definition, they wouldn't use the weasel word "de-facto".

P.S. Again, I'd urge the "Save Wootton" parents to pursue the solution electorally. The solution you're trying to find is not going to be found in the courts, but can be done by our elected officials.



LOL what elected officials?


County Council and BoE. The ones who control the budget and make the final decisions regarding the schools.

There's a huge amount of turnover happening this year, a lot of open seats, so it seems like the perfect time for a dedicated group to get commitments to reverse the decision.

The amount of money they're spending on a law firm is better spent on lobbying and contributions to politicians rather than launching a doomed legal challenge.


I’m not a part of the cluster so maybe they know something I don’t. But I do think it’s interesting that it’s been almost two weeks since they’ve filed and the state hasn’t responded. That’s quite unusual…

I will say as a neighboring cluster, I am fairly certain they are in fact is lobbying (I know we are)


I hardly think 2 weeks is "quite unusual" especially when those two weeks fell over holidays although I know that some in our chat used it as a hopeful hint since the lawyers said that the last time they received denial it came within 48 hours.



There is no two weeks. MSDE answers to no one. They respond when they want to. The pp has no clue what will happen. It’s just another attempt by TT’s huge PR machine. How did TT’s fun run work out?


They don’t need to respond. You file.


No one here has any lick of an idea as to how this actually works and it’s pretty funny. Like the other PP said, just trolls and AI fighting back and forth.


I've spent about an hour reading COMAR / Policy FAA / MDSE rulings. I've also stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I have a guess how it's going to go (DOOOOMED), but we'll see if intuitions are correct.


What does Holiday Inn Express have to do with this? Are you ok PP?


I'm sorry, the reference is either too old / too young / too obscure for you to get. In the late 2000's, early 2010's, Holiday Inn Express ran a series of ads where they portrayed staying at a Holiday Inn Express greatly increased your intelligence along with the tagline (Stay Smart).

An example can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15Grfs2c9xg


Maybe TT can also spend a night or two at Holiday Inn.


Taylor and the BOE don’t support advanced math.
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Anonymous wrote:And here it is: (well, not a lawsuit, but an appeal to the State BoE).

Silverman Thompson has filed a formal request for a stay with the Maryland State Superintendent, asking the State to pause implementation of Modified Option H while the decision is reviewed. The filing raises serious concerns, including whether Modified Option H is effectively closing Wootton under the label of a “relocation,” and whether flawed enrollment projections were used to justify the decision.

This is just the beginning. If the stay is not granted, we will immediately appeal. We are prepared to continue through administrative court and ultimately pursue litigation in circuit court.

The filing challenges multiple aspects of the Board’s decision, including:
• Failure to follow legally required procedures for closing a school
• Use of flawed or potentially misleading data to justify the outcome
• Risk of immediate and irreversible harm to affected students and families

Seems like a weak case. I've already seen other lawsuits that tried to argue the "we think they used the wrong data", which never wins; State BoE defers to the local BoE.

Then there's the "actually this is a de-facto closure"; personally, I think this is a bogus argument, especially because if they know it's a school closure by the law's definition, they wouldn't use the weasel word "de-facto".

P.S. Again, I'd urge the "Save Wootton" parents to pursue the solution electorally. The solution you're trying to find is not going to be found in the courts, but can be done by our elected officials.



LOL what elected officials?


County Council and BoE. The ones who control the budget and make the final decisions regarding the schools.

There's a huge amount of turnover happening this year, a lot of open seats, so it seems like the perfect time for a dedicated group to get commitments to reverse the decision.

The amount of money they're spending on a law firm is better spent on lobbying and contributions to politicians rather than launching a doomed legal challenge.


I’m not a part of the cluster so maybe they know something I don’t. But I do think it’s interesting that it’s been almost two weeks since they’ve filed and the state hasn’t responded. That’s quite unusual…

I will say as a neighboring cluster, I am fairly certain they are in fact is lobbying (I know we are)


I hardly think 2 weeks is "quite unusual" especially when those two weeks fell over holidays although I know that some in our chat used it as a hopeful hint since the lawyers said that the last time they received denial it came within 48 hours.



There is no two weeks. MSDE answers to no one. They respond when they want to. The pp has no clue what will happen. It’s just another attempt by TT’s huge PR machine. How did TT’s fun run work out?


They don’t need to respond. You file.


No one here has any lick of an idea as to how this actually works and it’s pretty funny. Like the other PP said, just trolls and AI fighting back and forth.


I've spent about an hour reading COMAR / Policy FAA / MDSE rulings. I've also stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I have a guess how it's going to go (DOOOOMED), but we'll see if intuitions are correct.


What does Holiday Inn Express have to do with this? Are you ok PP?


I'm sorry, the reference is either too old / too young / too obscure for you to get. In the late 2000's, early 2010's, Holiday Inn Express ran a series of ads where they portrayed staying at a Holiday Inn Express greatly increased your intelligence along with the tagline (Stay Smart).

An example can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15Grfs2c9xg


Maybe TT can also spend a night or two at Holiday Inn.


Taylor and the BOE don’t support advanced math.
Advanced math upholds white supremacy.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And here it is: (well, not a lawsuit, but an appeal to the State BoE).

Silverman Thompson has filed a formal request for a stay with the Maryland State Superintendent, asking the State to pause implementation of Modified Option H while the decision is reviewed. The filing raises serious concerns, including whether Modified Option H is effectively closing Wootton under the label of a “relocation,” and whether flawed enrollment projections were used to justify the decision.

This is just the beginning. If the stay is not granted, we will immediately appeal. We are prepared to continue through administrative court and ultimately pursue litigation in circuit court.

The filing challenges multiple aspects of the Board’s decision, including:
• Failure to follow legally required procedures for closing a school
• Use of flawed or potentially misleading data to justify the outcome
• Risk of immediate and irreversible harm to affected students and families

Seems like a weak case. I've already seen other lawsuits that tried to argue the "we think they used the wrong data", which never wins; State BoE defers to the local BoE.

Then there's the "actually this is a de-facto closure"; personally, I think this is a bogus argument, especially because if they know it's a school closure by the law's definition, they wouldn't use the weasel word "de-facto".

P.S. Again, I'd urge the "Save Wootton" parents to pursue the solution electorally. The solution you're trying to find is not going to be found in the courts, but can be done by our elected officials.



LOL what elected officials?


County Council and BoE. The ones who control the budget and make the final decisions regarding the schools.

There's a huge amount of turnover happening this year, a lot of open seats, so it seems like the perfect time for a dedicated group to get commitments to reverse the decision.

The amount of money they're spending on a law firm is better spent on lobbying and contributions to politicians rather than launching a doomed legal challenge.


I’m not a part of the cluster so maybe they know something I don’t. But I do think it’s interesting that it’s been almost two weeks since they’ve filed and the state hasn’t responded. That’s quite unusual…

I will say as a neighboring cluster, I am fairly certain they are in fact is lobbying (I know we are)


I hardly think 2 weeks is "quite unusual" especially when those two weeks fell over holidays although I know that some in our chat used it as a hopeful hint since the lawyers said that the last time they received denial it came within 48 hours.



There is no two weeks. MSDE answers to no one. They respond when they want to. The pp has no clue what will happen. It’s just another attempt by TT’s huge PR machine. How did TT’s fun run work out?


They don’t need to respond. You file.


No one here has any lick of an idea as to how this actually works and it’s pretty funny. Like the other PP said, just trolls and AI fighting back and forth.


We know what it takes to file a lawsuit. You’ve had many months.


Huh? It wasn’t even ripe until 3/26? A month hasn’t even passed? You are proving the PP’s point. Wannabe DCUM attorneys have zero clue what is happening.
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Did a quick count and trolls are winning this thread. Try harder AI
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And here it is: (well, not a lawsuit, but an appeal to the State BoE).

Silverman Thompson has filed a formal request for a stay with the Maryland State Superintendent, asking the State to pause implementation of Modified Option H while the decision is reviewed. The filing raises serious concerns, including whether Modified Option H is effectively closing Wootton under the label of a “relocation,” and whether flawed enrollment projections were used to justify the decision.

This is just the beginning. If the stay is not granted, we will immediately appeal. We are prepared to continue through administrative court and ultimately pursue litigation in circuit court.

The filing challenges multiple aspects of the Board’s decision, including:
• Failure to follow legally required procedures for closing a school
• Use of flawed or potentially misleading data to justify the outcome
• Risk of immediate and irreversible harm to affected students and families

Seems like a weak case. I've already seen other lawsuits that tried to argue the "we think they used the wrong data", which never wins; State BoE defers to the local BoE.

Then there's the "actually this is a de-facto closure"; personally, I think this is a bogus argument, especially because if they know it's a school closure by the law's definition, they wouldn't use the weasel word "de-facto".

P.S. Again, I'd urge the "Save Wootton" parents to pursue the solution electorally. The solution you're trying to find is not going to be found in the courts, but can be done by our elected officials.



LOL what elected officials?


County Council and BoE. The ones who control the budget and make the final decisions regarding the schools.

There's a huge amount of turnover happening this year, a lot of open seats, so it seems like the perfect time for a dedicated group to get commitments to reverse the decision.

The amount of money they're spending on a law firm is better spent on lobbying and contributions to politicians rather than launching a doomed legal challenge.


I’m not a part of the cluster so maybe they know something I don’t. But I do think it’s interesting that it’s been almost two weeks since they’ve filed and the state hasn’t responded. That’s quite unusual…

I will say as a neighboring cluster, I am fairly certain they are in fact is lobbying (I know we are)


I hardly think 2 weeks is "quite unusual" especially when those two weeks fell over holidays although I know that some in our chat used it as a hopeful hint since the lawyers said that the last time they received denial it came within 48 hours.



There is no two weeks. MSDE answers to no one. They respond when they want to. The pp has no clue what will happen. It’s just another attempt by TT’s huge PR machine. How did TT’s fun run work out?


They don’t need to respond. You file.


No one here has any lick of an idea as to how this actually works and it’s pretty funny. Like the other PP said, just trolls and AI fighting back and forth.


We know what it takes to file a lawsuit. You’ve had many months.


Huh? It wasn’t even ripe until 3/26? A month hasn’t even passed? You are proving the PP’s point. Wannabe DCUM attorneys have zero clue what is happening.


It was obvious it was happening.
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Anonymous wrote:Did a quick count and trolls are winning this thread. Try harder AI


You make good Wootton parents look bad.
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Anonymous wrote:Did a quick count and trolls are winning this thread. Try harder AI


You make good Wootton parents look bad.


Good Wootton parents are the ones who agree with me.
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Anonymous wrote:Did a quick count and trolls are winning this thread. Try harder AI


You make good Wootton parents look bad.


Good Wootton parents are the ones who agree with me.


Good Wootton parents think the the kids and staff health.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:And here it is: (well, not a lawsuit, but an appeal to the State BoE).

Silverman Thompson has filed a formal request for a stay with the Maryland State Superintendent, asking the State to pause implementation of Modified Option H while the decision is reviewed. The filing raises serious concerns, including whether Modified Option H is effectively closing Wootton under the label of a “relocation,” and whether flawed enrollment projections were used to justify the decision.

This is just the beginning. If the stay is not granted, we will immediately appeal. We are prepared to continue through administrative court and ultimately pursue litigation in circuit court.

The filing challenges multiple aspects of the Board’s decision, including:
• Failure to follow legally required procedures for closing a school
• Use of flawed or potentially misleading data to justify the outcome
• Risk of immediate and irreversible harm to affected students and families

Seems like a weak case. I've already seen other lawsuits that tried to argue the "we think they used the wrong data", which never wins; State BoE defers to the local BoE.

Then there's the "actually this is a de-facto closure"; personally, I think this is a bogus argument, especially because if they know it's a school closure by the law's definition, they wouldn't use the weasel word "de-facto".

P.S. Again, I'd urge the "Save Wootton" parents to pursue the solution electorally. The solution you're trying to find is not going to be found in the courts, but can be done by our elected officials.



LOL what elected officials?


County Council and BoE. The ones who control the budget and make the final decisions regarding the schools.

There's a huge amount of turnover happening this year, a lot of open seats, so it seems like the perfect time for a dedicated group to get commitments to reverse the decision.

The amount of money they're spending on a law firm is better spent on lobbying and contributions to politicians rather than launching a doomed legal challenge.


I’m not a part of the cluster so maybe they know something I don’t. But I do think it’s interesting that it’s been almost two weeks since they’ve filed and the state hasn’t responded. That’s quite unusual…

I will say as a neighboring cluster, I am fairly certain they are in fact is lobbying (I know we are)


I hardly think 2 weeks is "quite unusual" especially when those two weeks fell over holidays although I know that some in our chat used it as a hopeful hint since the lawyers said that the last time they received denial it came within 48 hours.



There is no two weeks. MSDE answers to no one. They respond when they want to. The pp has no clue what will happen. It’s just another attempt by TT’s huge PR machine. How did TT’s fun run work out?


They don’t need to respond. You file.


No one here has any lick of an idea as to how this actually works and it’s pretty funny. Like the other PP said, just trolls and AI fighting back and forth.


We know what it takes to file a lawsuit. You’ve had many months.


Huh? It wasn’t even ripe until 3/26? A month hasn’t even passed? You are proving the PP’s point. Wannabe DCUM attorneys have zero clue what is happening.


It was obvious it was happening.


Of course it was obvious. We all know it was predetermined. Thanks for agreeing with us!

But also doesn’t matter in terms of ripeness. It can be 100% obvious, as it was in this case (because again predetermined), the issue isn’t ripe for a lawsuit until the vote happens.

So to suggest they had months to file a lawsuit just shows you don’t know anything about the law. A month hasn’t even passed.
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Anonymous wrote:And here it is: (well, not a lawsuit, but an appeal to the State BoE).

Silverman Thompson has filed a formal request for a stay with the Maryland State Superintendent, asking the State to pause implementation of Modified Option H while the decision is reviewed. The filing raises serious concerns, including whether Modified Option H is effectively closing Wootton under the label of a “relocation,” and whether flawed enrollment projections were used to justify the decision.

This is just the beginning. If the stay is not granted, we will immediately appeal. We are prepared to continue through administrative court and ultimately pursue litigation in circuit court.

The filing challenges multiple aspects of the Board’s decision, including:
• Failure to follow legally required procedures for closing a school
• Use of flawed or potentially misleading data to justify the outcome
• Risk of immediate and irreversible harm to affected students and families

Seems like a weak case. I've already seen other lawsuits that tried to argue the "we think they used the wrong data", which never wins; State BoE defers to the local BoE.

Then there's the "actually this is a de-facto closure"; personally, I think this is a bogus argument, especially because if they know it's a school closure by the law's definition, they wouldn't use the weasel word "de-facto".

P.S. Again, I'd urge the "Save Wootton" parents to pursue the solution electorally. The solution you're trying to find is not going to be found in the courts, but can be done by our elected officials.



LOL what elected officials?


County Council and BoE. The ones who control the budget and make the final decisions regarding the schools.

There's a huge amount of turnover happening this year, a lot of open seats, so it seems like the perfect time for a dedicated group to get commitments to reverse the decision.

The amount of money they're spending on a law firm is better spent on lobbying and contributions to politicians rather than launching a doomed legal challenge.


I’m not a part of the cluster so maybe they know something I don’t. But I do think it’s interesting that it’s been almost two weeks since they’ve filed and the state hasn’t responded. That’s quite unusual…

I will say as a neighboring cluster, I am fairly certain they are in fact is lobbying (I know we are)


I hardly think 2 weeks is "quite unusual" especially when those two weeks fell over holidays although I know that some in our chat used it as a hopeful hint since the lawyers said that the last time they received denial it came within 48 hours.



There is no two weeks. MSDE answers to no one. They respond when they want to. The pp has no clue what will happen. It’s just another attempt by TT’s huge PR machine. How did TT’s fun run work out?


They don’t need to respond. You file.


No one here has any lick of an idea as to how this actually works and it’s pretty funny. Like the other PP said, just trolls and AI fighting back and forth.


We know what it takes to file a lawsuit. You’ve had many months.


Huh? It wasn’t even ripe until 3/26? A month hasn’t even passed? You are proving the PP’s point. Wannabe DCUM attorneys have zero clue what is happening.


It was obvious it was happening.


Of course it was obvious. We all know it was predetermined. Thanks for agreeing with us!

But also doesn’t matter in terms of ripeness. It can be 100% obvious, as it was in this case (because again predetermined), the issue isn’t ripe for a lawsuit until the vote happens.

So to suggest they had months to file a lawsuit just shows you don’t know anything about the law. A month hasn’t even passed.


You clearly don’t know much about the law and why do you want to force others to risk their health staying in that building given how bad it is? Most want to go to Crown.
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Anonymous wrote:And here it is: (well, not a lawsuit, but an appeal to the State BoE).

Silverman Thompson has filed a formal request for a stay with the Maryland State Superintendent, asking the State to pause implementation of Modified Option H while the decision is reviewed. The filing raises serious concerns, including whether Modified Option H is effectively closing Wootton under the label of a “relocation,” and whether flawed enrollment projections were used to justify the decision.

This is just the beginning. If the stay is not granted, we will immediately appeal. We are prepared to continue through administrative court and ultimately pursue litigation in circuit court.

The filing challenges multiple aspects of the Board’s decision, including:
• Failure to follow legally required procedures for closing a school
• Use of flawed or potentially misleading data to justify the outcome
• Risk of immediate and irreversible harm to affected students and families

Seems like a weak case. I've already seen other lawsuits that tried to argue the "we think they used the wrong data", which never wins; State BoE defers to the local BoE.

Then there's the "actually this is a de-facto closure"; personally, I think this is a bogus argument, especially because if they know it's a school closure by the law's definition, they wouldn't use the weasel word "de-facto".

P.S. Again, I'd urge the "Save Wootton" parents to pursue the solution electorally. The solution you're trying to find is not going to be found in the courts, but can be done by our elected officials.



LOL what elected officials?


County Council and BoE. The ones who control the budget and make the final decisions regarding the schools.

There's a huge amount of turnover happening this year, a lot of open seats, so it seems like the perfect time for a dedicated group to get commitments to reverse the decision.

The amount of money they're spending on a law firm is better spent on lobbying and contributions to politicians rather than launching a doomed legal challenge.


I’m not a part of the cluster so maybe they know something I don’t. But I do think it’s interesting that it’s been almost two weeks since they’ve filed and the state hasn’t responded. That’s quite unusual…

I will say as a neighboring cluster, I am fairly certain they are in fact is lobbying (I know we are)


I hardly think 2 weeks is "quite unusual" especially when those two weeks fell over holidays although I know that some in our chat used it as a hopeful hint since the lawyers said that the last time they received denial it came within 48 hours.



There is no two weeks. MSDE answers to no one. They respond when they want to. The pp has no clue what will happen. It’s just another attempt by TT’s huge PR machine. How did TT’s fun run work out?


They don’t need to respond. You file.


No one here has any lick of an idea as to how this actually works and it’s pretty funny. Like the other PP said, just trolls and AI fighting back and forth.


We know what it takes to file a lawsuit. You’ve had many months.


Huh? It wasn’t even ripe until 3/26? A month hasn’t even passed? You are proving the PP’s point. Wannabe DCUM attorneys have zero clue what is happening.


It was obvious it was happening.


Of course it was obvious. We all know it was predetermined. Thanks for agreeing with us!

But also doesn’t matter in terms of ripeness. It can be 100% obvious, as it was in this case (because again predetermined), the issue isn’t ripe for a lawsuit until the vote happens.

So to suggest they had months to file a lawsuit just shows you don’t know anything about the law. A month hasn’t even passed.


You clearly don’t know much about the law and why do you want to force others to risk their health staying in that building given how bad it is? Most want to go to Crown.


Most as in Dufief and it’s like 5 families lol? Why is it that they don’t want to go to Crown themselves? After all, Wootton is “unsafe” as you said. And why is it that we can make Wootton safe for Magruder kids but not for neighborhood kids?
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Anonymous wrote:And here it is: (well, not a lawsuit, but an appeal to the State BoE).

Silverman Thompson has filed a formal request for a stay with the Maryland State Superintendent, asking the State to pause implementation of Modified Option H while the decision is reviewed. The filing raises serious concerns, including whether Modified Option H is effectively closing Wootton under the label of a “relocation,” and whether flawed enrollment projections were used to justify the decision.

This is just the beginning. If the stay is not granted, we will immediately appeal. We are prepared to continue through administrative court and ultimately pursue litigation in circuit court.

The filing challenges multiple aspects of the Board’s decision, including:
• Failure to follow legally required procedures for closing a school
• Use of flawed or potentially misleading data to justify the outcome
• Risk of immediate and irreversible harm to affected students and families

Seems like a weak case. I've already seen other lawsuits that tried to argue the "we think they used the wrong data", which never wins; State BoE defers to the local BoE.

Then there's the "actually this is a de-facto closure"; personally, I think this is a bogus argument, especially because if they know it's a school closure by the law's definition, they wouldn't use the weasel word "de-facto".

P.S. Again, I'd urge the "Save Wootton" parents to pursue the solution electorally. The solution you're trying to find is not going to be found in the courts, but can be done by our elected officials.



LOL what elected officials?


County Council and BoE. The ones who control the budget and make the final decisions regarding the schools.

There's a huge amount of turnover happening this year, a lot of open seats, so it seems like the perfect time for a dedicated group to get commitments to reverse the decision.

The amount of money they're spending on a law firm is better spent on lobbying and contributions to politicians rather than launching a doomed legal challenge.


I’m not a part of the cluster so maybe they know something I don’t. But I do think it’s interesting that it’s been almost two weeks since they’ve filed and the state hasn’t responded. That’s quite unusual…

I will say as a neighboring cluster, I am fairly certain they are in fact is lobbying (I know we are)


I hardly think 2 weeks is "quite unusual" especially when those two weeks fell over holidays although I know that some in our chat used it as a hopeful hint since the lawyers said that the last time they received denial it came within 48 hours.



There is no two weeks. MSDE answers to no one. They respond when they want to. The pp has no clue what will happen. It’s just another attempt by TT’s huge PR machine. How did TT’s fun run work out?


They don’t need to respond. You file.


No one here has any lick of an idea as to how this actually works and it’s pretty funny. Like the other PP said, just trolls and AI fighting back and forth.


We know what it takes to file a lawsuit. You’ve had many months.


Huh? It wasn’t even ripe until 3/26? A month hasn’t even passed? You are proving the PP’s point. Wannabe DCUM attorneys have zero clue what is happening.


It was obvious it was happening.


Of course it was obvious. We all know it was predetermined. Thanks for agreeing with us!

But also doesn’t matter in terms of ripeness. It can be 100% obvious, as it was in this case (because again predetermined), the issue isn’t ripe for a lawsuit until the vote happens.

So to suggest they had months to file a lawsuit just shows you don’t know anything about the law. A month hasn’t even passed.


You clearly don’t know much about the law and why do you want to force others to risk their health staying in that building given how bad it is? Most want to go to Crown.


Most as in Dufief and it’s like 5 families lol? Why is it that they don’t want to go to Crown themselves? After all, Wootton is “unsafe” as you said. And why is it that we can make Wootton safe for Magruder kids but not for neighborhood kids?


It's not just Dufief. Lots of parents watched quietly behind the scenes hoping for this exact outcome. Wootton is very unsafe. This is the best outcome given the circumstances.
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Anonymous wrote:And here it is: (well, not a lawsuit, but an appeal to the State BoE).

Silverman Thompson has filed a formal request for a stay with the Maryland State Superintendent, asking the State to pause implementation of Modified Option H while the decision is reviewed. The filing raises serious concerns, including whether Modified Option H is effectively closing Wootton under the label of a “relocation,” and whether flawed enrollment projections were used to justify the decision.

This is just the beginning. If the stay is not granted, we will immediately appeal. We are prepared to continue through administrative court and ultimately pursue litigation in circuit court.

The filing challenges multiple aspects of the Board’s decision, including:
• Failure to follow legally required procedures for closing a school
• Use of flawed or potentially misleading data to justify the outcome
• Risk of immediate and irreversible harm to affected students and families

Seems like a weak case. I've already seen other lawsuits that tried to argue the "we think they used the wrong data", which never wins; State BoE defers to the local BoE.

Then there's the "actually this is a de-facto closure"; personally, I think this is a bogus argument, especially because if they know it's a school closure by the law's definition, they wouldn't use the weasel word "de-facto".

P.S. Again, I'd urge the "Save Wootton" parents to pursue the solution electorally. The solution you're trying to find is not going to be found in the courts, but can be done by our elected officials.



LOL what elected officials?


County Council and BoE. The ones who control the budget and make the final decisions regarding the schools.

There's a huge amount of turnover happening this year, a lot of open seats, so it seems like the perfect time for a dedicated group to get commitments to reverse the decision.

The amount of money they're spending on a law firm is better spent on lobbying and contributions to politicians rather than launching a doomed legal challenge.


I’m not a part of the cluster so maybe they know something I don’t. But I do think it’s interesting that it’s been almost two weeks since they’ve filed and the state hasn’t responded. That’s quite unusual…

I will say as a neighboring cluster, I am fairly certain they are in fact is lobbying (I know we are)


I hardly think 2 weeks is "quite unusual" especially when those two weeks fell over holidays although I know that some in our chat used it as a hopeful hint since the lawyers said that the last time they received denial it came within 48 hours.



There is no two weeks. MSDE answers to no one. They respond when they want to. The pp has no clue what will happen. It’s just another attempt by TT’s huge PR machine. How did TT’s fun run work out?


They don’t need to respond. You file.


No one here has any lick of an idea as to how this actually works and it’s pretty funny. Like the other PP said, just trolls and AI fighting back and forth.


We know what it takes to file a lawsuit. You’ve had many months.


Huh? It wasn’t even ripe until 3/26? A month hasn’t even passed? You are proving the PP’s point. Wannabe DCUM attorneys have zero clue what is happening.


It was obvious it was happening.


Of course it was obvious. We all know it was predetermined. Thanks for agreeing with us!

But also doesn’t matter in terms of ripeness. It can be 100% obvious, as it was in this case (because again predetermined), the issue isn’t ripe for a lawsuit until the vote happens.

So to suggest they had months to file a lawsuit just shows you don’t know anything about the law. A month hasn’t even passed.


You clearly don’t know much about the law and why do you want to force others to risk their health staying in that building given how bad it is? Most want to go to Crown.


Citation?

If Magruderw is worse than Wootton (which it is), by your logic its kids should go to Crown and Wootton get remediation.
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