Redshirting consequences at Lafayette

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If principals have discretion, the Lafayette principal should make the 2025-2026 school year the last year that kids can be enrolled a year late and that policy should be broadcast far and wide. None of these families is asking DCPS for an extra year of schooling for their children; they just want K-12, same as everyone else. They’re not incurring extra expense for DCPS.

Yes, the parents were wrong just to assume that rules will be bent for them, wherever there is discretion, but a principal who has the discretion to allow these children to enroll in kindergarten, but is refusing to do so just to prove a point is doing a real disservice to these children. Making children skip kindergarten entirely because their parents didn’t enroll them in a timely manner is detrimental to the children’s scholastic progress. No principal would do this if their students’ best interests was their top priority. It’s nakedly punitive.

These kids should go to first. They have no special needs and no good reason to hold back. Parents have all summer to prepare them.

One of my kids skipped k. They missed nothing.

Yeah can we talk about how DCPS kindergarten is actually the worst year? No math and an obsessive focus on phonics and no fun? I've sent two kids through DCPS elementary and K was by far the worst year. My older one missed the last four months bc of COVID and his life improved.

That’s actually great if they are pushing reading skills. It’s school. They can have fun at home. Doesn’t sound like you value education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If principals have discretion, the Lafayette principal should make the 2025-2026 school year the last year that kids can be enrolled a year late and that policy should be broadcast far and wide. None of these families is asking DCPS for an extra year of schooling for their children; they just want K-12, same as everyone else. They’re not incurring extra expense for DCPS.

Yes, the parents were wrong just to assume that rules will be bent for them, wherever there is discretion, but a principal who has the discretion to allow these children to enroll in kindergarten, but is refusing to do so just to prove a point is doing a real disservice to these children. Making children skip kindergarten entirely because their parents didn’t enroll them in a timely manner is detrimental to the children’s scholastic progress. No principal would do this if their students’ best interests was their top priority. It’s nakedly punitive.

These kids should go to first. They have no special needs and no good reason to hold back. Parents have all summer to prepare them.

One of my kids skipped k. They missed nothing.

My kids learned to read in kindergarten.

You could have worked with them prior. Mine were reading well before k. We worked with them as did the preschool.

Can you stop bragging incessantly about what a great mom you are? Amazing, you took care of your special needs kid, who learned to read in kindergarten and took calculus in 10th.

Only thing you’re not saying is what college they go to. I’m guessing it’s underwhelming for how big your ego is, and you’re blaming your child’s perceived failure on redshirted kids that stole their spot at the “good” colleges.

How lame!

Lame is you not putting the same effort into your kids. Just imagine what a better outcome they have if you put more time into them. I don’t care what college my kids go to as long as it’s a good fit for them. It’s not about college. It’s about getting a strong education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many parents bring an extremely unhealthy competitive background. To the point of assuming everyone is in direct competition and everyone is scheming to get an unfair advantage however minute.

There is a broad ignorance about mental health issues and many of these posters exhibit troublesome paranoia traits that have little anchoring in reality.

I’m sympathetic to these people whom were active posters in this thread, but they end up hurting people around them including their own kids. It’s important to bring awareness and perspective.

Holding your kids back without good reason seems the height of entitlement and mental illness. They are the competitive parents trying to give their kids the edge.

I’m not mentally ill. I decided I would rather send my 18 almost 19 year old child to college than my not quite 18 year old. So he started kindergarten late. I am sorry if that offends you.

So, you are bullying others to do what you do to rationalize it. My kid will be a few week of 17 in college. Not a big deal. Far better than being 18 in hs.

Sample size of 1, degrees of freedom 1. Do you and/or your kid know what this means? Maybe you should continue your education.

Being a bully speaks volumes. I followed the rules unlike you. Yes, they understand it and are glad I did not hold them back. I have my education, do you?

Clearly you don’t if you keep pushing their experience.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many parents bring an extremely unhealthy competitive background. To the point of assuming everyone is in direct competition and everyone is scheming to get an unfair advantage however minute.

There is a broad ignorance about mental health issues and many of these posters exhibit troublesome paranoia traits that have little anchoring in reality.

I’m sympathetic to these people whom were active posters in this thread, but they end up hurting people around them including their own kids. It’s important to bring awareness and perspective.

Holding your kids back without good reason seems the height of entitlement and mental illness. They are the competitive parents trying to give their kids the edge.

I’m not mentally ill. I decided I would rather send my 18 almost 19 year old child to college than my not quite 18 year old. So he started kindergarten late. I am sorry if that offends you.

So, you are bullying others to do what you do to rationalize it. My kid will be a few week of 17 in college. Not a big deal. Far better than being 18 in hs.

Sample size of 1, degrees of freedom 1. Do you and/or your kid know what this means? Maybe you should continue your education.

Being a bully speaks volumes. I followed the rules unlike you. Yes, they understand it and are glad I did not hold them back. I have my education, do you?

Clearly you don’t if you keep pushing their experience.

I’ll help you out. Sample size of 1, number of variables 1+, degrees of freedom 0 if not negative, significance 0.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If principals have discretion, the Lafayette principal should make the 2025-2026 school year the last year that kids can be enrolled a year late and that policy should be broadcast far and wide. None of these families is asking DCPS for an extra year of schooling for their children; they just want K-12, same as everyone else. They’re not incurring extra expense for DCPS.

Yes, the parents were wrong just to assume that rules will be bent for them, wherever there is discretion, but a principal who has the discretion to allow these children to enroll in kindergarten, but is refusing to do so just to prove a point is doing a real disservice to these children. Making children skip kindergarten entirely because their parents didn’t enroll them in a timely manner is detrimental to the children’s scholastic progress. No principal would do this if their students’ best interests was their top priority. It’s nakedly punitive.

These kids should go to first. They have no special needs and no good reason to hold back. Parents have all summer to prepare them.

One of my kids skipped k. They missed nothing.

My kids learned to read in kindergarten.

You could have worked with them prior. Mine were reading well before k. We worked with them as did the preschool.

Why do you assume no one “worked with them” until kindergarten?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s nonsense to say that Lafayette should just let this year slide and then broadcast their adherence to DCPS’s policy starting next year. The parents were on notice - there’s a clear policy, the parents were just cocky enough to think it wouldn’t apply to them.

There is no clear policy when principals have the freedom to enforce rules selectively. That’s how this mess got started.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If principals have discretion, the Lafayette principal should make the 2025-2026 school year the last year that kids can be enrolled a year late and that policy should be broadcast far and wide. None of these families is asking DCPS for an extra year of schooling for their children; they just want K-12, same as everyone else. They’re not incurring extra expense for DCPS.

Yes, the parents were wrong just to assume that rules will be bent for them, wherever there is discretion, but a principal who has the discretion to allow these children to enroll in kindergarten, but is refusing to do so just to prove a point is doing a real disservice to these children. Making children skip kindergarten entirely because their parents didn’t enroll them in a timely manner is detrimental to the children’s scholastic progress. No principal would do this if their students’ best interests was their top priority. It’s nakedly punitive.

These kids should go to first. They have no special needs and no good reason to hold back. Parents have all summer to prepare them.

One of my kids skipped k. They missed nothing.

My kids learned to read in kindergarten.

You could have worked with them prior. Mine were reading well before k. We worked with them as did the preschool.

Can you stop bragging incessantly about what a great mom you are? Amazing, you took care of your special needs kid, who learned to read in kindergarten and took calculus in 10th.

Only thing you’re not saying is what college they go to. I’m guessing it’s underwhelming for how big your ego is, and you’re blaming your child’s perceived failure on redshirted kids that stole their spot at the “good” colleges.

How lame!

Lame is you not putting the same effort into your kids. Just imagine what a better outcome they have if you put more time into them. I don’t care what college my kids go to as long as it’s a good fit for them. It’s not about college. It’s about getting a strong education.

Are you also the mom who bragged about your kid being an early walker? All that is stuff that does not matter. In contrast, putting your kid in a program for walkers before those muscles developed does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many parents bring an extremely unhealthy competitive background. To the point of assuming everyone is in direct competition and everyone is scheming to get an unfair advantage however minute.

There is a broad ignorance about mental health issues and many of these posters exhibit troublesome paranoia traits that have little anchoring in reality.

I’m sympathetic to these people whom were active posters in this thread, but they end up hurting people around them including their own kids. It’s important to bring awareness and perspective.

Holding your kids back without good reason seems the height of entitlement and mental illness. They are the competitive parents trying to give their kids the edge.

I’m not mentally ill. I decided I would rather send my 18 almost 19 year old child to college than my not quite 18 year old. So he started kindergarten late. I am sorry if that offends you.

So, you are bullying others to do what you do to rationalize it. My kid will be a few week of 17 in college. Not a big deal. Far better than being 18 in hs.

I’m not a Lafayette parent or a DC resident and am not bullying anyone. I did what I thought was best for my child and you did what you felt was best for yours. The fact that I made a choice that you personally didn’t make for your kid doesn’t make it wrong and doesn’t make me a bad parent.

Yes you are. You are very hostile and nasty. There are rules for a reason. I hope your kids don’t resent you for holding them back.

Hostile and nasty how? Because I made a decision that you don’t agree with?

My kid is thriving. Good grades, good friends, and happy! I hope your child is as well…that is all any parent wants for their kids and hopefully drives your decision making.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If principals have discretion, the Lafayette principal should make the 2025-2026 school year the last year that kids can be enrolled a year late and that policy should be broadcast far and wide. None of these families is asking DCPS for an extra year of schooling for their children; they just want K-12, same as everyone else. They’re not incurring extra expense for DCPS.

Yes, the parents were wrong just to assume that rules will be bent for them, wherever there is discretion, but a principal who has the discretion to allow these children to enroll in kindergarten, but is refusing to do so just to prove a point is doing a real disservice to these children. Making children skip kindergarten entirely because their parents didn’t enroll them in a timely manner is detrimental to the children’s scholastic progress. No principal would do this if their students’ best interests was their top priority. It’s nakedly punitive.

These kids should go to first. They have no special needs and no good reason to hold back. Parents have all summer to prepare them.

One of my kids skipped k. They missed nothing.

My kids learned to read in kindergarten.

You could have worked with them prior. Mine were reading well before k. We worked with them as did the preschool.

Can you stop bragging incessantly about what a great mom you are? Amazing, you took care of your special needs kid, who learned to read in kindergarten and took calculus in 10th.

Only thing you’re not saying is what college they go to. I’m guessing it’s underwhelming for how big your ego is, and you’re blaming your child’s perceived failure on redshirted kids that stole their spot at the “good” colleges.

How lame!

Lame is you not putting the same effort into your kids. Just imagine what a better outcome they have if you put more time into them. I don’t care what college my kids go to as long as it’s a good fit for them. It’s not about college. It’s about getting a strong education.

DP: ironically you are arguing how entitled Lafayette parents are while shaming parents for not doing more for their kids. Is this what you think about all parents in the city? The ones working 2+ jobs to keep the lights on? They’re shitty parents because they can’t tutor their kid to be reading “way before K” (when, exactly, would that be anyway?)? Is that what you’re saying?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree that some of these posters show troubling mental health signs. Really surprised the lack of boundary awareness. We are talking about kids here and people are speculating wildly about special needs, IEP, what was approved, with absolutely no shred of evidence. Ultimately that’s a private matter, leave it to the school and parents.

The comments about taking pleasure in someone’s (a child, none the less!) misfortune were truly repugnant. You’ve got to have a massive chip on your shoulder to stoop so low.

The competition these parents imagine themselves to be in is truly disturbing. The kid starting kindergarten later won’t steal anyone spot at a coveted college or a job later on, life is not that deterministic.

Also the strident chest beating about how great of a mother a poster is for taking care of her special needs child, and judging everyone else by how they compare against how much she did for her kid. Are we competing on who sacrificed most for their kids now? That’s what it seems. The bragging and inquiring about whose kid is more advanced in math, that’s a whole next level of insane competitiveness.

Unfortunately these harpies are lost, there’s no relief in sight, because they think of themselves as heroine mothers and models to follow, the very voice of common sense.

Lol no. The issue is an entitled set of NW moms taking up ALL the air in the room to get their own way. That’s no way to run a school system and we have seen very recent examples of where catering to a coterie of “concerned moms” was disastrous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If principals have discretion, the Lafayette principal should make the 2025-2026 school year the last year that kids can be enrolled a year late and that policy should be broadcast far and wide. None of these families is asking DCPS for an extra year of schooling for their children; they just want K-12, same as everyone else. They’re not incurring extra expense for DCPS.

Yes, the parents were wrong just to assume that rules will be bent for them, wherever there is discretion, but a principal who has the discretion to allow these children to enroll in kindergarten, but is refusing to do so just to prove a point is doing a real disservice to these children. Making children skip kindergarten entirely because their parents didn’t enroll them in a timely manner is detrimental to the children’s scholastic progress. No principal would do this if their students’ best interests was their top priority. It’s nakedly punitive.

These kids should go to first. They have no special needs and no good reason to hold back. Parents have all summer to prepare them.

One of my kids skipped k. They missed nothing.

My kids learned to read in kindergarten.

You could have worked with them prior. Mine were reading well before k. We worked with them as did the preschool.

Can you stop bragging incessantly about what a great mom you are? Amazing, you took care of your special needs kid, who learned to read in kindergarten and took calculus in 10th.

Only thing you’re not saying is what college they go to. I’m guessing it’s underwhelming for how big your ego is, and you’re blaming your child’s perceived failure on redshirted kids that stole their spot at the “good” colleges.

How lame!

Lame is you not putting the same effort into your kids. Just imagine what a better outcome they have if you put more time into them. I don’t care what college my kids go to as long as it’s a good fit for them. It’s not about college. It’s about getting a strong education.

Then please explain why you’re in this thread. Your kid is not redshirted but you seem to have a very strong opinion about it. Somehow I feel held back kids have wronged you deeply, likely from doing better in college acceptance than yours. Of course in your mind that’s only because they were redshirted, and not because they were better applicants.

If your kid is at the right college please share so we appreciate how great of a mom you are. After all it’s also your merit since you worked with your kid since early on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that some of these posters show troubling mental health signs. Really surprised the lack of boundary awareness. We are talking about kids here and people are speculating wildly about special needs, IEP, what was approved, with absolutely no shred of evidence. Ultimately that’s a private matter, leave it to the school and parents.

The comments about taking pleasure in someone’s (a child, none the less!) misfortune were truly repugnant. You’ve got to have a massive chip on your shoulder to stoop so low.

The competition these parents imagine themselves to be in is truly disturbing. The kid starting kindergarten later won’t steal anyone spot at a coveted college or a job later on, life is not that deterministic.

Also the strident chest beating about how great of a mother a poster is for taking care of her special needs child, and judging everyone else by how they compare against how much she did for her kid. Are we competing on who sacrificed most for their kids now? That’s what it seems. The bragging and inquiring about whose kid is more advanced in math, that’s a whole next level of insane competitiveness.

Unfortunately these harpies are lost, there’s no relief in sight, because they think of themselves as heroine mothers and models to follow, the very voice of common sense.

Lol no. The issue is an entitled set of NW moms taking up ALL the air in the room to get their own way. That’s no way to run a school system and we have seen very recent examples of where catering to a coterie of “concerned moms” was disastrous.

Yes this. All of the opposition is because people who think rules don't apply to them are grating. But then the UNW moms create a bunch of straw man arguments and vehemently defend them. That feels like 50 percent of this thread now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If principals have discretion, the Lafayette principal should make the 2025-2026 school year the last year that kids can be enrolled a year late and that policy should be broadcast far and wide. None of these families is asking DCPS for an extra year of schooling for their children; they just want K-12, same as everyone else. They’re not incurring extra expense for DCPS.

Yes, the parents were wrong just to assume that rules will be bent for them, wherever there is discretion, but a principal who has the discretion to allow these children to enroll in kindergarten, but is refusing to do so just to prove a point is doing a real disservice to these children. Making children skip kindergarten entirely because their parents didn’t enroll them in a timely manner is detrimental to the children’s scholastic progress. No principal would do this if their students’ best interests was their top priority. It’s nakedly punitive.

These kids should go to first. They have no special needs and no good reason to hold back. Parents have all summer to prepare them.

One of my kids skipped k. They missed nothing.

Yeah can we talk about how DCPS kindergarten is actually the worst year? No math and an obsessive focus on phonics and no fun? I've sent two kids through DCPS elementary and K was by far the worst year. My older one missed the last four months bc of COVID and his life improved.

That’s actually great if they are pushing reading skills. It’s school. They can have fun at home. Doesn’t sound like you value education.

You're wrong. They can push skills and still be developmentally appropriate. Our parents learned to read in Kinder and still did fun things and weren't sitting at desks all day with only 15-20 mins recess like they do in many DCPS schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that some of these posters show troubling mental health signs. Really surprised the lack of boundary awareness. We are talking about kids here and people are speculating wildly about special needs, IEP, what was approved, with absolutely no shred of evidence. Ultimately that’s a private matter, leave it to the school and parents.

The comments about taking pleasure in someone’s (a child, none the less!) misfortune were truly repugnant. You’ve got to have a massive chip on your shoulder to stoop so low.

The competition these parents imagine themselves to be in is truly disturbing. The kid starting kindergarten later won’t steal anyone spot at a coveted college or a job later on, life is not that deterministic.

Also the strident chest beating about how great of a mother a poster is for taking care of her special needs child, and judging everyone else by how they compare against how much she did for her kid. Are we competing on who sacrificed most for their kids now? That’s what it seems. The bragging and inquiring about whose kid is more advanced in math, that’s a whole next level of insane competitiveness.

Unfortunately these harpies are lost, there’s no relief in sight, because they think of themselves as heroine mothers and models to follow, the very voice of common sense.

Lol no. The issue is an entitled set of NW moms taking up ALL the air in the room to get their own way. That’s no way to run a school system and we have seen very recent examples of where catering to a coterie of “concerned moms” was disastrous.

Yes this. All of the opposition is because people who think rules don't apply to them are grating. But then the UNW moms create a bunch of straw man arguments and vehemently defend them. That feels like 50 percent of this thread now.

I know! The other 50% is “look how much I did for my child, why can’t you do the same?”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that some of these posters show troubling mental health signs. Really surprised the lack of boundary awareness. We are talking about kids here and people are speculating wildly about special needs, IEP, what was approved, with absolutely no shred of evidence. Ultimately that’s a private matter, leave it to the school and parents.

The comments about taking pleasure in someone’s (a child, none the less!) misfortune were truly repugnant. You’ve got to have a massive chip on your shoulder to stoop so low.

The competition these parents imagine themselves to be in is truly disturbing. The kid starting kindergarten later won’t steal anyone spot at a coveted college or a job later on, life is not that deterministic.

Also the strident chest beating about how great of a mother a poster is for taking care of her special needs child, and judging everyone else by how they compare against how much she did for her kid. Are we competing on who sacrificed most for their kids now? That’s what it seems. The bragging and inquiring about whose kid is more advanced in math, that’s a whole next level of insane competitiveness.

Unfortunately these harpies are lost, there’s no relief in sight, because they think of themselves as heroine mothers and models to follow, the very voice of common sense.

Lol no. The issue is an entitled set of NW moms taking up ALL the air in the room to get their own way. That’s no way to run a school system and we have seen very recent examples of where catering to a coterie of “concerned moms” was disastrous.

Yes this. All of the opposition is because people who think rules don't apply to them are grating. But then the UNW moms create a bunch of straw man arguments and vehemently defend them. That feels like 50 percent of this thread now.

I know! The other 50% is “look how much I did for my child, why can’t you do the same?”

In short, striver mom gets her ivy (lol) hopes high when her kid is taking calculus in 10th grade, only to see them shattered by actual college admission results. Meanwhile, lower “stats” kid gets into UVA. Initially she can’t even comprehend it, but it finally dawn on her, the kid was redshirted, an unfair advantage that negated all her hard work throughout the years. All that kindergarten reading, the algebra in 6th, the tutoring, it was for nothing because her kid was the youngest in the grade, a massive handicap to those in the know.

So she does what any rational person would do, troll internet posting boards, seeking validation of her parenting skill and spewing venom on redshirted kids and their parents. It’s really cathartic at the end of the day, and much cheaper than therapy. Not as effective though, her rants are getting more and more unhinged.