Why is Northeastern (NEU) so popular with both parents and students these days?

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It's amusing that a college professor would spend time answering so many back and forth in this thread. Obviously a true academic.

We all have our vices.

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Curious how many trade schools have an average SAT of 1500?

Average SATs are completely meaningless for schools that don't require scores. There's a strong selection effect.

It had same score before the pandemic when score was required. No change in scores.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The coop program has always seemed genuinely cool to me.

That said, in the areas I'm familiar with, the quality of the faculty are not remotely competitive with similarly-ranked universities. And it is extremely common knowledge that the president spent years gaming the USNWR rankings in every way possible--the entire institution was organized around that goal. It worked! But I don't think it represented any big increase in quality, and the people I know who worked there during that era all despised the way it governed everything.

I would guess the popularity means that there's a much bigger market for coop type programs than people used to think. And I definitely understand why many people would prioritize that over having access to "world class faculty" or whatever. If your kid isn't going to do academic research, then the difference between the faculty at Northeastern and at Harvard is probably immaterial.

So it's really more of a trade school?

So are you really stupid?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Curious how many trade schools have an average SAT of 1500?

Average SATs are completely meaningless for schools that don't require scores. There's a strong selection effect.

It had same score before the pandemic when score was required. No change in scores.

What's your excuse when pre-Covid, tests were mandatory, and you saw essentially the same scores?

[Anonymous]

Northeastern's SAT scores before TO were the same as they are now. Average Boston admit has a 1500.

25% around 1460, 75% 1540

No one argues NEU's SAT scores are not impressive. Given that more and more research shows the validity of SAT scores, that realization will only help NEU going foward.

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So it's really more of a trade school?

Trade school is harsh, but if what you mean is that it's a good fit for students who are prioritizing getting experience that will set them on a career path over pure academics, then yeah.

Which is fine! As a college professor, I am painfully aware that 99% of students are not choosing their school based primarily on quality of academics, and the strengths of the coop program make much more sense as a reason to go to Northwestern than campus architecture or the quality of dining hall food, which are other reasons I often hear for college choices.

It's amusing that a college professor would spend time answering so many back and forth in this thread. Obviously a true academic.

BAHAHA thank you, agreed. The amount of conjecture on this thread increases, as do my laughs. Greatly appreciated on this fine Monday!

[Anonymous]

OP started this thread to troll. I am wondering if OP is more proud or less proud that this has droned on for 43 pages?

I would be embarrassed if I was OP. Not only by the number of pages, but by being so obviously offended by all that is Northeastern, and drawing out their rejection by 43 pages.

OP basically just had a 43 page hissy fit temper tantrum. And it is DELICIOUS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP started this thread to troll. I am wondering if OP is more proud or less proud that this has droned on for 43 pages?

I would be embarrassed if I was OP. Not only by the number of pages, but by being so obviously offended by all that is Northeastern, and drawing out their rejection by 43 pages.

OP basically just had a 43 page hissy fit temper tantrum. And it is DELICIOUS!

Or how about the more likely scenario - OP is a parent with a legitimate question and weird booster person dragged this out by attacking anyone who disagrees that NEU is not the best school ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The coop program has always seemed genuinely cool to me.

That said, in the areas I'm familiar with, the quality of the faculty are not remotely competitive with similarly-ranked universities. And it is extremely common knowledge that the president spent years gaming the USNWR rankings in every way possible--the entire institution was organized around that goal. It worked! But I don't think it represented any big increase in quality, and the people I know who worked there during that era all despised the way it governed everything.

I would guess the popularity means that there's a much bigger market for coop type programs than people used to think. And I definitely understand why many people would prioritize that over having access to "world class faculty" or whatever. If your kid isn't going to do academic research, then the difference between the faculty at Northeastern and at Harvard is probably immaterial.

The school has improved vastly in every way if that's what gaming is about. Who would be the best judge of the 'quality'? the industry and employers who are actually willing to pay for the products.  It looks like Northeastern's quality is highly respected.

There's a misunderstanding about coop at Northeastern. 
There are about 39 R1 private universities in the US, and Northeastern is one of them.
In case you don't what that is about,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_universities_in_the_United_States
It especially has high research activities in the areas of CS, engineering, STEM.
For example, https://csrankings.org/#/index?all&us  this ranking is based on research activities.
So there are plenty of research activities and students are involved in research.

Unless you are a trust fund kid, everyone is highly interested in internships these days.
Coop is basically an internship but with much more flexibility and better support from the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coop program has always seemed genuinely cool to me.

That said, in the areas I'm familiar with, the quality of the faculty are not remotely competitive with similarly-ranked universities. And it is extremely common knowledge that the president spent years gaming the USNWR rankings in every way possible--the entire institution was organized around that goal. It worked! But I don't think it represented any big increase in quality, and the people I know who worked there during that era all despised the way it governed everything.

I would guess the popularity means that there's a much bigger market for coop type programs than people used to think. And I definitely understand why many people would prioritize that over having access to "world class faculty" or whatever. If your kid isn't going to do academic research, then the difference between the faculty at Northeastern and at Harvard is probably immaterial.

The school has improved vastly in every way if that's what gaming is about. Who would be the best judge of the 'quality'? the industry and employers who are actually willing to pay for the products.  It looks like Northeastern's quality is highly respected.

There's a misunderstanding about coop at Northeastern. 
There are about 39 R1 private universities in the US, and Northeastern is one of them.
In case you don't what that is about,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_universities_in_the_United_States
It especially has high research activities in the areas of CS, engineering, STEM.
For example, https://csrankings.org/#/index?all&us  this ranking is based on research activities.
So there are plenty of research activities and students are involved in research.

Unless you are a trust fund kid, everyone is highly interested in internships these days.
Coop is basically an internship but with much more flexibility and better support from the school.

Here's what the gaming is about. https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2014/08/26/how-northeastern-gamed-the-college-rankings/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP started this thread to troll. I am wondering if OP is more proud or less proud that this has droned on for 43 pages?

I would be embarrassed if I was OP. Not only by the number of pages, but by being so obviously offended by all that is Northeastern, and drawing out their rejection by 43 pages.

OP basically just had a 43 page hissy fit temper tantrum. And it is DELICIOUS!

Or how about the more likely scenario - OP is a parent with a legitimate question and weird booster person dragged this out by attacking anyone who disagrees that NEU is not the best school ever.

More the OP troll dynamic with a follower or two.

The thread is relatively balanced. A few who thinks NEU sucks ( not) a few who think NEU is on par with MIT and Harvard (not), and many who think NEU is a solid school with competitive admissions in a desirable college city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP started this thread to troll. I am wondering if OP is more proud or less proud that this has droned on for 43 pages?

I would be embarrassed if I was OP. Not only by the number of pages, but by being so obviously offended by all that is Northeastern, and drawing out their rejection by 43 pages.

OP basically just had a 43 page hissy fit temper tantrum. And it is DELICIOUS!

Or how about the more likely scenario - OP is a parent with a legitimate question and weird booster person dragged this out by attacking anyone who disagrees that NEU is not the best school ever.

You love that word! So funny! Actually, I don't know of anyone who would start a disingenuous thread about a school and continue to troll it if they were not flat out rejected.

You know what my word of the moment is? DELICIOUS. OP's troll post and anger about a school that rejected him is DELICIOUS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oddly, schools like BU, NEU, and Tufts are probably in a better place with respect to sports than BC. While BC, for now, plays in the P5, conference, the P2 is gobbling up all the resources. Athletes playing football or basketball are essentially pros now, with the advent of NIL. Vandy, BC, Wake, etc. can't compete in that arena. So they are left in a sort of nether layer, between sucking at big time sports and having the veneer of academics still the main mission of the school. In no way does the calculus favor academics.

BU, Tufts and NEU don't even have to navigate that problem.

Compare the athletic department budgets/professional sports league prospects of those at Vandy, BC, Wake vs. the other Boston schools.

I would rather be an NEU or BU right now than BC with respect to athletics. With BC you are half pro sports/paying athletes and half a university paying to get an education. If you long to fight with Ohio State, Michigan, Florida, USC, Alabama, Notre Dame, Clemson, FSU, etc. you are going to have to go the pro route. And spend a ton of money to have what is essentially a minor league pro sport's team.

Boston College is never competing for the same players as tOSU, Michigan, Alabama, et al. on the recruiting trail. LOL at you for thinking that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coop program has always seemed genuinely cool to me.

That said, in the areas I'm familiar with, the quality of the faculty are not remotely competitive with similarly-ranked universities. And it is extremely common knowledge that the president spent years gaming the USNWR rankings in every way possible--the entire institution was organized around that goal. It worked! But I don't think it represented any big increase in quality, and the people I know who worked there during that era all despised the way it governed everything.

I would guess the popularity means that there's a much bigger market for coop type programs than people used to think. And I definitely understand why many people would prioritize that over having access to "world class faculty" or whatever. If your kid isn't going to do academic research, then the difference between the faculty at Northeastern and at Harvard is probably immaterial.

The school has improved vastly in every way if that's what gaming is about. Who would be the best judge of the 'quality'? the industry and employers who are actually willing to pay for the products.  It looks like Northeastern's quality is highly respected.

There's a misunderstanding about coop at Northeastern. 
There are about 39 R1 private universities in the US, and Northeastern is one of them.
In case you don't what that is about,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_universities_in_the_United_States
It especially has high research activities in the areas of CS, engineering, STEM.
For example, https://csrankings.org/#/index?all&us  this ranking is based on research activities.
So there are plenty of research activities and students are involved in research.

Unless you are a trust fund kid, everyone is highly interested in internships these days.
Coop is basically an internship but with much more flexibility and better support from the school.

Here's what the gaming is about. https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2014/08/26/how-northeastern-gamed-the-college-rankings/

well, that piece just confirms what I thought. 1996 = commuter school. I lived in Boston and coumd not understand the NEU booster here

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP started this thread to troll. I am wondering if OP is more proud or less proud that this has droned on for 43 pages?

I would be embarrassed if I was OP. Not only by the number of pages, but by being so obviously offended by all that is Northeastern, and drawing out their rejection by 43 pages.

OP basically just had a 43 page hissy fit temper tantrum. And it is DELICIOUS!

Or how about the more likely scenario - OP is a parent with a legitimate question and weird booster person dragged this out by attacking anyone who disagrees that NEU is not the best school ever.

You love that word! So funny! Actually, I don't know of anyone who would start a disingenuous thread about a school and continue to troll it if they were not flat out rejected.

You know what my word of the moment is? DELICIOUS. OP's troll post and anger about a school that rejected him is DELICIOUS.

You need to lay off that second glass of wine lady.