Indictment Monday?

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Anonymous wrote:A line has been crossed, and a precedent set.

You will regret this, dems.

I agree, pp.
I predict Bragg will come out looking like a fool.

So a fools prosecuting a fool. Well here we are.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it was very calculated that the “boring” state tax fraud case was the one that Trump was indicted for. He’s been indicted for actions he took as a private citizen - not a president and not a former president. Biden’s DOJ is not involved at all. A grand jury in the state of New York decided to indict based on the evidence before them.

This is an action state grand juries across the country take on a regular routine basis.

If anything, this signals the strength of our democracy and the rule of law.

I don’t believe this to be true. I think, unfortunately, this was the reverse of democracy, i.e. give me the man, and I’ll find you the crime. It’s not surprising to me at all, given this DA has let a lot of violent criminals essentially free to hurt others again.

Love the MAGA talking points here re: the DA. But what are you going to do when the evidence shows he committed the crimes beyond a reasonable doubt? No one made up these crimes to play a game of gotcha with Trump. TWO people have been convicted of crimes related to this. Neither had as much to benefit as Trump himself.

Remember the pee tapes (Lordy there are tapes)? Please produce. Remember the Steele dossier that even Steele himself was just barroom talk?

Pelosi said Trump has to prove his innocence. Agree?

Do you understand that Michael Cohen and Allen Weisselberg are, or have been, in jail because of this crime? The same one that there is an "Individual 1" who, as described in the previous indictments and sentencing documents are obviously Trump? I mean, if Trump's DOJ put Cohen behind bars for this, then why should Trump face court and possible jail as well?

Do you understand that Cohen went to prison for other crimes? Do some research.
He pleaded guilty to other crimes that probably weren't really crimes at all. They attached those "crimes" in order to go after Trump down the road.
Interesting that the DOJ passed on the "crimes" that Bragg is evidently pursuing. If indeed, these are the "crimes" in the indictment, I believe even judges in deep blue NYC will see that this is a political prosecution and throw out the charges. And, if they don't, it sure will be fun to see (or hear about) Michael Cohen as a witness. The convicted liar.

LOL usually it’s conservatives accusing liberals of being soft on crime.

Apparently the GOP thinks their members should be able to get away with breaking the law, that when Republicans break the law it’s “political” to prosecute them.

How does that work? Why are GOPers immune from the consequences of law breaking?

Exactly.

Don't you know? They are ABOVE the law.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it was very calculated that the “boring” state tax fraud case was the one that Trump was indicted for. He’s been indicted for actions he took as a private citizen - not a president and not a former president. Biden’s DOJ is not involved at all. A grand jury in the state of New York decided to indict based on the evidence before them.

This is an action state grand juries across the country take on a regular routine basis.

If anything, this signals the strength of our democracy and the rule of law.

I don’t believe this to be true. I think, unfortunately, this was the reverse of democracy, i.e. give me the man, and I’ll find you the crime. It’s not surprising to me at all, given this DA has let a lot of violent criminals essentially free to hurt others again.

Love the MAGA talking points here re: the DA. But what are you going to do when the evidence shows he committed the crimes beyond a reasonable doubt? No one made up these crimes to play a game of gotcha with Trump. TWO people have been convicted of crimes related to this. Neither had as much to benefit as Trump himself.

Remember the pee tapes (Lordy there are tapes)? Please produce. Remember the Steele dossier that even Steele himself was just barroom talk?

Pelosi said Trump has to prove his innocence. Agree?

Do you understand that Michael Cohen and Allen Weisselberg are, or have been, in jail because of this crime? The same one that there is an "Individual 1" who, as described in the previous indictments and sentencing documents are obviously Trump? I mean, if Trump's DOJ put Cohen behind bars for this, then why should Trump face court and possible jail as well?

Should Trump have to prove his innocence? Yes or no

Legally, the state has the burden of proof. Technically, he can put on no defense and prove nothing and be found not guilty.

Here in the real world if he doesn’t present a defense with evidence of innocences, he can get used to stainless steel toilets.

So the real world means guilty because you don’t like the guy?

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Anonymous wrote:I think it was very calculated that the “boring” state tax fraud case was the one that Trump was indicted for. He’s been indicted for actions he took as a private citizen - not a president and not a former president. Biden’s DOJ is not involved at all. A grand jury in the state of New York decided to indict based on the evidence before them.

This is an action state grand juries across the country take on a regular routine basis.

If anything, this signals the strength of our democracy and the rule of law.

I don’t believe this to be true. I think, unfortunately, this was the reverse of democracy, i.e. give me the man, and I’ll find you the crime. It’s not surprising to me at all, given this DA has let a lot of violent criminals essentially free to hurt others again.

Love the MAGA talking points here re: the DA. But what are you going to do when the evidence shows he committed the crimes beyond a reasonable doubt? No one made up these crimes to play a game of gotcha with Trump. TWO people have been convicted of crimes related to this. Neither had as much to benefit as Trump himself.

Remember the pee tapes (Lordy there are tapes)? Please produce. Remember the Steele dossier that even Steele himself was just barroom talk?

Pelosi said Trump has to prove his innocence. Agree?

Do you understand that Michael Cohen and Allen Weisselberg are, or have been, in jail because of this crime? The same one that there is an "Individual 1" who, as described in the previous indictments and sentencing documents are obviously Trump? I mean, if Trump's DOJ put Cohen behind bars for this, then why should Trump face court and possible jail as well?

Should Trump have to prove his innocence? Yes or no

Legally, the state has the burden of proof. Technically, he can put on no defense and prove nothing and be found not guilty.

Here in the real world if he doesn’t present a defense with evidence of innocences, he can get used to stainless steel toilets.

So the real world means guilty because you don’t like the guy?

DP. The real world means, for anyone who has been paying attention, that there are all sorts of business and tax laws that Trump's company has provably broken for years and now, all that's left, is to show that Trump was also involved.

Done.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it was very calculated that the “boring” state tax fraud case was the one that Trump was indicted for. He’s been indicted for actions he took as a private citizen - not a president and not a former president. Biden’s DOJ is not involved at all. A grand jury in the state of New York decided to indict based on the evidence before them.

This is an action state grand juries across the country take on a regular routine basis.

If anything, this signals the strength of our democracy and the rule of law.

I don’t believe this to be true. I think, unfortunately, this was the reverse of democracy, i.e. give me the man, and I’ll find you the crime. It’s not surprising to me at all, given this DA has let a lot of violent criminals essentially free to hurt others again.

Love the MAGA talking points here re: the DA. But what are you going to do when the evidence shows he committed the crimes beyond a reasonable doubt? No one made up these crimes to play a game of gotcha with Trump. TWO people have been convicted of crimes related to this. Neither had as much to benefit as Trump himself.

Remember the pee tapes (Lordy there are tapes)? Please produce. Remember the Steele dossier that even Steele himself was just barroom talk?

Pelosi said Trump has to prove his innocence. Agree?

Do you understand that Michael Cohen and Allen Weisselberg are, or have been, in jail because of this crime? The same one that there is an "Individual 1" who, as described in the previous indictments and sentencing documents are obviously Trump? I mean, if Trump's DOJ put Cohen behind bars for this, then why should Trump face court and possible jail as well?

Should Trump have to prove his innocence? Yes or no

Given ALL the corruption and lying we've seen from him - yes, he should have to prove his innocence to the public

In a court of law, the prosecution must prove his guilt

Do you not get that distinction?

Pelosi evidently believes he has to prove his innocence in a court of law. Not surprising, really. We all knew she has difficulty grasping legal issues.

And you are mincing words. Innocent until presumed guilty and if you win your trial, people assume you have proven your innocence.

Unless you are OJ.

I believe it is "presumed innocent" until proven guilty, not that you are innocent until proven guilty.
And winning your trial does not mean you are innocent of the charges. It means you weren't found guilty beyaond a reasonable doubt.

Changes nothing. What this proves is Pelosi is either an idiot or crooked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is Trump going to be a US version of Navalny?

Prosecuted for going against government? Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh hey! "The first arrest will shock the world"! Lets goooooo!

(IYKYK)

The Stormy is upon us.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it was very calculated that the “boring” state tax fraud case was the one that Trump was indicted for. He’s been indicted for actions he took as a private citizen - not a president and not a former president. Biden’s DOJ is not involved at all. A grand jury in the state of New York decided to indict based on the evidence before them.

This is an action state grand juries across the country take on a regular routine basis.

If anything, this signals the strength of our democracy and the rule of law.

I don’t believe this to be true. I think, unfortunately, this was the reverse of democracy, i.e. give me the man, and I’ll find you the crime. It’s not surprising to me at all, given this DA has let a lot of violent criminals essentially free to hurt others again.

Love the MAGA talking points here re: the DA. But what are you going to do when the evidence shows he committed the crimes beyond a reasonable doubt? No one made up these crimes to play a game of gotcha with Trump. TWO people have been convicted of crimes related to this. Neither had as much to benefit as Trump himself.

Remember the pee tapes (Lordy there are tapes)? Please produce. Remember the Steele dossier that even Steele himself was just barroom talk?

Pelosi said Trump has to prove his innocence. Agree?

Do you understand that Michael Cohen and Allen Weisselberg are, or have been, in jail because of this crime? The same one that there is an "Individual 1" who, as described in the previous indictments and sentencing documents are obviously Trump? I mean, if Trump's DOJ put Cohen behind bars for this, then why should Trump face court and possible jail as well?

Should Trump have to prove his innocence? Yes or no

Legally, the state has the burden of proof. Technically, he can put on no defense and prove nothing and be found not guilty.

Here in the real world if he doesn’t present a defense with evidence of innocences, he can get used to stainless steel toilets.

So the real world means guilty because you don’t like the guy?

DP. The real world means, for anyone who has been paying attention, that there are all sorts of business and tax laws that Trump's company has provably broken for years and now, all that's left, is to show that Trump was also involved.

Done.

So if Rs don’t like the Bidens, they can go after them as well. We already know there was lawbreaking. Should we expect justice?

I mean, you can argue and argue and argue all you want.

Did you hear about the Dominion case?

You didn’t answer my question

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is Trump going to be a US version of Navalny?

Prosecuted for going against government? Yes.

Trump wasn't prosecuted for going against government. He is being prosecuted for fraud.

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Anonymous wrote:A line has been crossed, and a precedent set.

You will regret this, dems.

Ha ha. Said by the side that LOVES Trump largely because of all the lines he crosses.

Prove me wrong.

You can’t celebrate line crossing with your guy and celebrate him because he isn’t bound to precedent, and then complain because of line crossing and precedent setting. Not without being a hypocrite.

Hypocrite is a very big word. Not sure pp know what it means.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh hey! "The first arrest will shock the world"! Lets goooooo!

(IYKYK)

The Stormy is upon us.

LOL!

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Anonymous wrote:A line has been crossed, and a precedent set.

You will regret this, dems.

Donald Trump has been committing crimes his entire adult life and getting away with it. He should not be able to hide behind a Presidency.

The precedent is "no one is above the law". It's a good one.


Now what you are insinuating, is that the GOP will make up crimes to prosecute Dems with. This would not surprise me. They have been making up crimes and prosecuting Dems with them in the court of public opinion for all of my lifetime.

GOP have always played dirty.

Yep. Remember how they wasted tens of millions of taxpayer dollars and two years on almost a dozen separate investigations into Hillary Clinton's "crimes" regarding Benghazi, yet couldn't actually come up with one single criminal, prosecutable thing?

To be fair, they investigated the Secretary of State for security lapses at a CIA annex so it's not as if they were ever going to find culpability.

It wasn't about security lapses. They were using Libya to send weapons to Syria, and they ended up in the hands of AlQaeda.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Trump going to be a US version of Navalny?

Prosecuted for going against government? Yes.

Trump wasn't prosecuted for going against government. He is being prosecuted for fraud.

Pelosi said he has to prove his innocence. That tells me they know there’s no crime.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Trump going to be a US version of Navalny?

Prosecuted for going against government? Yes.

Trump wasn't prosecuted for going against government. He is being prosecuted for fraud.

Pelosi said he has to prove his innocence. That tells me they know there’s no crime.

Sad that a woman in her position knows so little about our justice system.