Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

[Anonymous]

For doj folks: on the seizure of Clark’s and Eastman’s phones, what kind of evidence does the fbi need to do that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For doj folks: on the seizure of Clark’s and Eastman’s phones, what kind of evidence does the fbi need to do that?

The fact that it took them nearly 18 months to seize those phones is pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

MILLIONS are not watching. The ratings do not reflect.

They are watching. They are watching streaming which isn’t recorded by the ratings.

For every 1 person watching tv I know 20 who watch later via streaming.

Wrong. Nielsen +7 accounts for streaming.

No one I know on the left or right is watching nor do they care one bit!

You can keep telling yourself that until the cows come home but it simply is not true. I and everyone I know cares deeply and is following the hearings. Polls prove you wrong.

We are the suburban mothers who catch up on news when we can. We are also a major voting block.

Even the note she said she wrote and identified as her own handwriting is NOT true.

It's not? It's false? Have you read the thread?

I have. And this is my summation:

Trump tried to carjack the beast from way way in the back seat (stretch limo) and to do so, turned into elastic man to grab the driver’s clavicle. The men who have served four different presidents without an infraction are now lying sacks of crap (though clearly good enough to serve Obama) and this young woman is a hero. Did I sum that up right?

If you are talking about the Secret Service they have a history of being drunk “lying sacks of crap”. The SS personal involve are all trump loyalists and were replaced as soon as trump was forced from office. These same SS agents were not trusted by Pence. Pence refused to get into the car controlled by SS agents. He was tipped out. It is interesting the no one has come out on record from the secret service? Also why are you lying about the vehicle. It was an SUV. There is video of it.

Now if you want to throw shade we should question the SS agents who disobeyed a direct order from the president. He wanted to go to the Capitol. The SS has no authority to over rule the president. Too bad for you and your fail insurrection. Would have been a lot more killed if trump had made it to the Capitol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

MILLIONS are not watching. The ratings do not reflect.

They are watching. They are watching streaming which isn’t recorded by the ratings.

For every 1 person watching tv I know 20 who watch later via streaming.

Wrong. Nielsen +7 accounts for streaming.

No one I know on the left or right is watching nor do they care one bit!

You can keep telling yourself that until the cows come home but it simply is not true. I and everyone I know cares deeply and is following the hearings. Polls prove you wrong.

We are the suburban mothers who catch up on news when we can. We are also a major voting block.

Even the note she said she wrote and identified as her own handwriting is NOT true.

Actually it's not clear if Herschmann, who has made waves with his own testimony (and Zoom room decor!) is contending he wrote the note (LITERALLY, with his hand and a pen), which she says she did, or that he wrote/dictated its contents (which she says Mark Meadows did, with Herschmann's help).

It again would be quite bizarre for her to lie about her own handwriting. And bizarre if Herschmann didn't bring it up in his own extensive testimony to the committee.

Another option is that it could be BOTH of their handwritings. Hutchinson could have written down the initial note according to what Meadows and Hershmann dictated. Then Meadows and Hershmann went off to Trump with the note, and Hershmann could have written on the card to cross out "illegal." It didn't sound like Hutchinson crossed out illegal, and someone must have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

MILLIONS are not watching. The ratings do not reflect.

They are watching. They are watching streaming which isn’t recorded by the ratings.

For every 1 person watching tv I know 20 who watch later via streaming.

Wrong. Nielsen +7 accounts for streaming.

No one I know on the left or right is watching nor do they care one bit!

You can keep telling yourself that until the cows come home but it simply is not true. I and everyone I know cares deeply and is following the hearings. Polls prove you wrong.

We are the suburban mothers who catch up on news when we can. We are also a major voting block.

Even the note she said she wrote and identified as her own handwriting is NOT true.

It's not? It's false? Have you read the thread?

I have. And this is my summation:

Trump tried to carjack the beast from way way in the back seat (stretch limo) and to do so, turned into elastic man to grab the driver’s clavicle. The men who have served four different presidents without an infraction are now lying sacks of crap (though clearly good enough to serve Obama) and this young woman is a hero. Did I sum that up right?

If you are talking about the Secret Service they have a history of being drunk “lying sacks of crap”. The SS personal involve are all trump loyalists and were replaced as soon as trump was forced from office. These same SS agents were not trusted by Pence. Pence refused to get into the car controlled by SS agents. He was tipped out. It is interesting the no one has come out on record from the secret service? Also why are you lying about the vehicle. It was an SUV. There is video of it.

Now if you want to throw shade we should question the SS agents who disobeyed a direct order from the president. He wanted to go to the Capitol. The SS has no authority to over rule the president. Too bad for you and your fail insurrection. Would have been a lot more killed if trump had made it to the Capitol.

These same SS agents served Obama as well. And two other Presidents besides Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

MILLIONS are not watching. The ratings do not reflect.

They are watching. They are watching streaming which isn’t recorded by the ratings.

For every 1 person watching tv I know 20 who watch later via streaming.

Wrong. Nielsen +7 accounts for streaming.

No one I know on the left or right is watching nor do they care one bit!

You can keep telling yourself that until the cows come home but it simply is not true. I and everyone I know cares deeply and is following the hearings. Polls prove you wrong.

We are the suburban mothers who catch up on news when we can. We are also a major voting block.

Even the note she said she wrote and identified as her own handwriting is NOT true.

Actually it's not clear if Herschmann, who has made waves with his own testimony (and Zoom room decor!) is contending he wrote the note (LITERALLY, with his hand and a pen), which she says she did, or that he wrote/dictated its contents (which she says Mark Meadows did, with Herschmann's help).

It again would be quite bizarre for her to lie about her own handwriting. And bizarre if Herschmann didn't bring it up in his own extensive testimony to the committee.

Another option is that it could be BOTH of their handwritings. Hutchinson could have written down the initial note according to what Meadows and Hershmann dictated. Then Meadows and Hershmann went off to Trump with the note, and Hershmann could have written on the card to cross out "illegal." It didn't sound like Hutchinson crossed out illegal, and someone must have.

Well, it COULDA been.

[Anonymous]

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Let's note here that the media is faithfully reporting the hearings, and that no reputable journalist is making waves about witness testimony and accuracy thereof.


As usual, Trumpers on this thread are grasping at straws and trying to create a controversy out of thin air.

Are you insinuating that Twitter is not real life?

I am SAYING that real journalists published in real newspapers are not disputing the testimony. Surely we've all learned by now not to trust random thoughts by random people on Twitter

Or are some of you still eating Ivermectin? It would explain a lot!

True believers never left hydroxychloroquine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

MILLIONS are not watching. The ratings do not reflect.

They are watching. They are watching streaming which isn’t recorded by the ratings.

For every 1 person watching tv I know 20 who watch later via streaming.

Wrong. Nielsen +7 accounts for streaming.

No one I know on the left or right is watching nor do they care one bit!

You can keep telling yourself that until the cows come home but it simply is not true. I and everyone I know cares deeply and is following the hearings. Polls prove you wrong.

We are the suburban mothers who catch up on news when we can. We are also a major voting block.

Even the note she said she wrote and identified as her own handwriting is NOT true.

It's not? It's false? Have you read the thread?

I have. And this is my summation:

Trump tried to carjack the beast from way way in the back seat (stretch limo) and to do so, turned into elastic man to grab the driver’s clavicle. The men who have served four different presidents without an infraction are now lying sacks of crap (though clearly good enough to serve Obama) and this young woman is a hero. Did I sum that up right?

If you are talking about the Secret Service they have a history of being drunk “lying sacks of crap”. The SS personal involve are all trump loyalists and were replaced as soon as trump was forced from office. These same SS agents were not trusted by Pence. Pence refused to get into the car controlled by SS agents. He was tipped out. It is interesting the no one has come out on record from the secret service? Also why are you lying about the vehicle. It was an SUV. There is video of it.

Now if you want to throw shade we should question the SS agents who disobeyed a direct order from the president. He wanted to go to the Capitol. The SS has no authority to over rule the president. Too bad for you and your fail insurrection. Would have been a lot more killed if trump had made it to the Capitol.

These same SS agents served Obama as well. And two other Presidents besides Trump.

And? Your point is what? Ornato had not been on the record disputing the testimony. We are all waiting for that to happen. It won’t.

[Anonymous]

I'd like to know who Meadows was on the phone with was he ushered Hutchinson away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is Herschmann claiming it is his handwriting on the note? Or that he dictated it? She definitely mentions he was present and helped dictate it:

LIZ CHENEY:

Now let's look at just one example of what some senior advisers to the president were urging. Ms. Hutchinson, could you look at the exhibit that we're showing on the screen now? Have you seen this note before?

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON:

That's a note that I wrote at the direction of the chief of staff on January 6th, likely around 3:00.

LIZ CHENEY:

And it's written on a chief of staff note card, but that's your handwriting, Ms. Hutchinson?

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON:

That's my handwriting.

LIZ CHENEY:

And why did you write this note?

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON:

The chief of staff was in a meeting with Eric Hirschman and potentially Mr. Philbin, and they had rushed out of the office fairly quickly. Mark had handed me the note card with one of his pens, and sort of dictating a statement for the president to potentially put out.

LIZ CHENEY:

And -- no, I'm sorry. Go ahead.

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON:

That's Ok. There are two phrases on there, one illegal and then one without proper authority. The illegal phrase was the one that Mr. Meadows had dictated to me. Mr. Herschmann had chimed in and said also put without legal authority. There should have been a slash between the two phrases. It was an -- an or if the president had opted to put one of those statements out.

Evidently he didn't. Later that afternoon, Mark came back from the Oval Dining Room and put the palm card on my desk with illegally crossed out, but said we didn't need to take further action on that statement.

LIZ CHENEY:

So, to your knowledge, this statement was never issued.

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON:

It was -- to my knowledge, it was never issued.

I KNEW this was coming

What’s her name?
Madison Casey?
Cassidy Mason?
Who cares.

Never heard of her,
Never heard of her.

And what I have heard is bad.
As in not good, OK?
She's a totally phony,
I nevvah liked her.

And that’s not even saying I evah met her, OK?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd like to know who Meadows was on the phone with was he ushered Hutchinson away.

I was wondering that too.

Stone? I really don't know who he would be talking to during the invasion of the Capitol building.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is Herschmann claiming it is his handwriting on the note? Or that he dictated it? She definitely mentions he was present and helped dictate it:

LIZ CHENEY:

Now let's look at just one example of what some senior advisers to the president were urging. Ms. Hutchinson, could you look at the exhibit that we're showing on the screen now? Have you seen this note before?

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON:

That's a note that I wrote at the direction of the chief of staff on January 6th, likely around 3:00.

LIZ CHENEY:

And it's written on a chief of staff note card, but that's your handwriting, Ms. Hutchinson?

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON:

That's my handwriting.

LIZ CHENEY:

And why did you write this note?

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON:

The chief of staff was in a meeting with Eric Hirschman and potentially Mr. Philbin, and they had rushed out of the office fairly quickly. Mark had handed me the note card with one of his pens, and sort of dictating a statement for the president to potentially put out.

LIZ CHENEY:

And -- no, I'm sorry. Go ahead.

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON:

That's Ok. There are two phrases on there, one illegal and then one without proper authority. The illegal phrase was the one that Mr. Meadows had dictated to me. Mr. Herschmann had chimed in and said also put without legal authority. There should have been a slash between the two phrases. It was an -- an or if the president had opted to put one of those statements out.

Evidently he didn't. Later that afternoon, Mark came back from the Oval Dining Room and put the palm card on my desk with illegally crossed out, but said we didn't need to take further action on that statement.

LIZ CHENEY:

So, to your knowledge, this statement was never issued.

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON:

It was -- to my knowledge, it was never issued.

I KNEW this was coming

What’s her name?
Madison Casey?
Cassidy Mason?
Who cares.

Never heard of her,
Never heard of her.

And what I have heard is bad.
As in not good, OK?
She's a totally phony,
I nevvah liked her.

And that’s not even saying I evah met her, OK?

Yeah, it's hard to make that work, isn't it? I don't know who she is but I hate her.

Umm...

[Anonymous]

The hardest thing to convince anyone of is that they have been duped.

I don’t think all trump supporters are bad people. I do believe that they are in so deep and talked to so many people about it that they just can’t admit they were wrong.

Growing up in the 1960’s, we had a neighbor who believed that Joseph McCarty was a true American and Roy Cohen a true patriot among other right wing crap. No fact could change his mind. It’s sad. He died alone having alienated his children. I see the same for the MAGA forever people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

MILLIONS are not watching. The ratings do not reflect.

They are watching. They are watching streaming which isn’t recorded by the ratings.

For every 1 person watching tv I know 20 who watch later via streaming.

Wrong. Nielsen +7 accounts for streaming.

No one I know on the left or right is watching nor do they care one bit!

You can keep telling yourself that until the cows come home but it simply is not true. I and everyone I know cares deeply and is following the hearings. Polls prove you wrong.

We are the suburban mothers who catch up on news when we can. We are also a major voting block.

Even the note she said she wrote and identified as her own handwriting is NOT true.

It's not? It's false? Have you read the thread?

I have. And this is my summation:

Trump tried to carjack the beast from way way in the back seat (stretch limo) and to do so, turned into elastic man to grab the driver’s clavicle. The men who have served four different presidents without an infraction are now lying sacks of crap (though clearly good enough to serve Obama) and this young woman is a hero. Did I sum that up right?

If you are talking about the Secret Service they have a history of being drunk “lying sacks of crap”. The SS personal involve are all trump loyalists and were replaced as soon as trump was forced from office. These same SS agents were not trusted by Pence. Pence refused to get into the car controlled by SS agents. He was tipped out. It is interesting the no one has come out on record from the secret service? Also why are you lying about the vehicle. It was an SUV. There is video of it.

Now if you want to throw shade we should question the SS agents who disobeyed a direct order from the president. He wanted to go to the Capitol. The SS has no authority to over rule the president. Too bad for you and your fail insurrection. Would have been a lot more killed if trump had made it to the Capitol.

These same SS agents served Obama as well. And two other Presidents besides Trump.

Ornato is a Trump political operative.

"Trump installed Tony Ornato -- his former lead US Secret Service agent --- as deputy chief of staff for operations in part bc FLOTUS --- then chief preferred him over Max Miller. But the move unnerved West Wing aides who knew the Secret Service was supposed to be non-political."
https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1518329760547540995

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"[S]enior Secret Service official Anthony Ornato was detailed to White House as a Trump political adviser. He's now back at USSS."
https://twitter.com/jkuhnhenn/status/1518321475173994498

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love the people attacking Hutchinson like she's as liberal as AOC. LOLOL.

She was part of the inner circle MAGA, a$$hats. She's only being attacked now b/c you don't like what she has to say.

+1. Here is a woman who worked like 30 feet from the Trump Oval Office being questioned by a wildly conservative Republican Representative who happens to be the daughter of one of the most rock-ribbed conservative Republicans of the 20th century. And the reaction of the Trump cultists is to call them a couple of liberals.

+2.

+ a million.