DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this whole story amounts to a political bee sting. By dissolving Reedy Creek, Florida Republicans probably made it a little more cumbersome and expensive for Disney to operate and grow, but — let’s be honest — it’s not that Disney won’t get what it wants. Look at Universal. They’ve aggressively expanded without a special taxing district. And we already know that Disney has no qualms about raising ticket prices to offset any increased business costs.

And while I personally don’t agree with Ron DeSantis on any issue, I see him as a fairly shrewd politician. At the end of the day he’s not going to do anything that jeopardizes tens of thousands of jobs in his state.

He already did. Word is Disney is looking to reduce its exposure in Florida. They were moving a 2,000 people executive center to Florida….not any more. It’s just bad political to force companies to attack their customers and employees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this whole story amounts to a political bee sting. By dissolving Reedy Creek, Florida Republicans probably made it a little more cumbersome and expensive for Disney to operate and grow, but — let’s be honest — it’s not that Disney won’t get what it wants. Look at Universal. They’ve aggressively expanded without a special taxing district. And we already know that Disney has no qualms about raising ticket prices to offset any increased business costs.

And while I personally don’t agree with Ron DeSantis on any issue, I see him as a fairly shrewd politician. At the end of the day he’s not going to do anything that jeopardizes tens of thousands of jobs in his state.

He already did. Word is Disney is looking to reduce its exposure in Florida. They were moving a 2,000 people executive center to Florida….not any more. It’s just bad political to force companies to attack their customers and employees.

The Imagineers and others in Disney California revolted and did not want to move to Florida. That had nothing to do with DeSantis.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many days/yr to establish residency in FL.?

Or maybe can we all pull a Mark Meadows?

None of the GOP has said anything against it, so I guess we can all just register in however many states as we want. Probably can vote in all the races, too.

Cool.

So we just have to rent a cheap trailer anywhere we want to vote?

Is that how it works for the GOP?

Anyone want to be Florida “roommates”? I found a place.

https://www.redfin.com/FL/Punta-Gorda/11106-Grapefruit-Ln-33955/home/47559674

Just need to get mail/ballots forwarded up here and we will be all set.

Not enough woods.

Then again, you don't have to actually live there or even visit the place to vote. Just make sure that someone related to you visits one weekend in your stead.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this whole story amounts to a political bee sting. By dissolving Reedy Creek, Florida Republicans probably made it a little more cumbersome and expensive for Disney to operate and grow, but — let’s be honest — it’s not that Disney won’t get what it wants. Look at Universal. They’ve aggressively expanded without a special taxing district. And we already know that Disney has no qualms about raising ticket prices to offset any increased business costs.

And while I personally don’t agree with Ron DeSantis on any issue, I see him as a fairly shrewd politician. At the end of the day he’s not going to do anything that jeopardizes tens of thousands of jobs in his state.

He already did. Word is Disney is looking to reduce its exposure in Florida. They were moving a 2,000 people executive center to Florida….not any more. It’s just bad political to force companies to attack their customers and employees.

This is not true. They have a massive tax break because of moving those people. They will move them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Disney must have been getting some good stuff (worth way more than the cost of paying for their own fire department) out of the deal or they wouldn’t be threatening to sue now.

My guess is that not needing to go through government approvals and permitting for all construction on the property alone was outweighing any tax burden they may have otherwise had. Especially since they would have been throwing more money into those things for better service and to better protect their own assets anyway.

Where are they threatening to sue?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this whole story amounts to a political bee sting. By dissolving Reedy Creek, Florida Republicans probably made it a little more cumbersome and expensive for Disney to operate and grow, but — let’s be honest — it’s not that Disney won’t get what it wants. Look at Universal. They’ve aggressively expanded without a special taxing district. And we already know that Disney has no qualms about raising ticket prices to offset any increased business costs.

And while I personally don’t agree with Ron DeSantis on any issue, I see him as a fairly shrewd politician. At the end of the day he’s not going to do anything that jeopardizes tens of thousands of jobs in his state.

He already did. Word is Disney is looking to reduce its exposure in Florida. They were moving a 2,000 people executive center to Florida….not any more. It’s just bad political to force companies to attack their customers and employees.

The Imagineers and others in Disney California revolted and did not want to move to Florida. That had nothing to do with DeSantis.

Did the Imagineers revolt because of the disgusting politics in Florida? In that case it had everything to do with DeSantis and every other rotten Republican in that state.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this whole story amounts to a political bee sting. By dissolving Reedy Creek, Florida Republicans probably made it a little more cumbersome and expensive for Disney to operate and grow, but — let’s be honest — it’s not that Disney won’t get what it wants. Look at Universal. They’ve aggressively expanded without a special taxing district. And we already know that Disney has no qualms about raising ticket prices to offset any increased business costs.

And while I personally don’t agree with Ron DeSantis on any issue, I see him as a fairly shrewd politician. At the end of the day he’s not going to do anything that jeopardizes tens of thousands of jobs in his state.

He already did. Word is Disney is looking to reduce its exposure in Florida. They were moving a 2,000 people executive center to Florida….not any more. It’s just bad political to force companies to attack their customers and employees.

The Imagineers and others in Disney California revolted and did not want to move to Florida. That had nothing to do with DeSantis.

Why do you think they didn’t want to move?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this whole story amounts to a political bee sting. By dissolving Reedy Creek, Florida Republicans probably made it a little more cumbersome and expensive for Disney to operate and grow, but — let’s be honest — it’s not that Disney won’t get what it wants. Look at Universal. They’ve aggressively expanded without a special taxing district. And we already know that Disney has no qualms about raising ticket prices to offset any increased business costs.

And while I personally don’t agree with Ron DeSantis on any issue, I see him as a fairly shrewd politician. At the end of the day he’s not going to do anything that jeopardizes tens of thousands of jobs in his state.

He already did. Word is Disney is looking to reduce its exposure in Florida. They were moving a 2,000 people executive center to Florida….not any more. It’s just bad political to force companies to attack their customers and employees.

The Imagineers and others in Disney California revolted and did not want to move to Florida. That had nothing to do with DeSantis.

Why do you think they didn’t want to move?

It’s astonishing to me that Republicans consistently don’t understand how sht their politics and policies are and that lots of people hate their sick agenda and obsession with identity politics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this whole story amounts to a political bee sting. By dissolving Reedy Creek, Florida Republicans probably made it a little more cumbersome and expensive for Disney to operate and grow, but — let’s be honest — it’s not that Disney won’t get what it wants. Look at Universal. They’ve aggressively expanded without a special taxing district. And we already know that Disney has no qualms about raising ticket prices to offset any increased business costs.

And while I personally don’t agree with Ron DeSantis on any issue, I see him as a fairly shrewd politician. At the end of the day he’s not going to do anything that jeopardizes tens of thousands of jobs in his state.

He already did. Word is Disney is looking to reduce its exposure in Florida. They were moving a 2,000 people executive center to Florida….not any more. It’s just bad political to force companies to attack their customers and employees.

I hope you're right, but I goggled and cannot find a source. What's yours?

[Anonymous]

They might delay the move but I doubt that they’ll scrap it. Moving the Parks division to Florida was a cost savings move. Disney can pay much lower salaries down the road in Florida and it will be more difficult for people to change jobs without relocating again. They can reduce their headcount as the many who don’t want to move will find other employment in LA and the ones who do will be stuck there. Disney doesn’t have to fund travel and temporary assignments back and forth as much etc. No retention salary increases. Florida was giving them a 500 million tax treat to sweeten the deal. For a penny pinching operations guy like Chapek whose experience was the parks not the content or entertainment side of the house it was predictable. Iger would have avoided the move because he would have wanted to steer clear of the divisive politics between CA and Disney, The pennies saved wouldn’t be worth tarnishing the brand. But Chapek, the PR clueless s in charge. He’s already spent money on the executive center so I doubt they’ll scrap it.

They might delay the move which would make the drooling Orlando real estate agents and developers poop their pants. They have been dying to get their hands on CA buyers who don’t blink at real estate prices and drive up any market.

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Anonymous wrote:Letter to the editor in today's Tampa Bay Times:

https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/2022/04/23/to-be-fair-shouldnt-the-villages-also-lose-its-special-district-status-letters/?itm_source=parsely-api

Please help me understand why our governor and Republican state legislators cannot find the time to address the needs of everyday taxpayers in this state. Instead of seeking ways to increase health care for the uninsured, reduce skyrocketing rents for soon-to-be homeless Floridians and address property insurance costs, they are busy attacking Disney and creating voting districts that favor their base. Yes, they are holding yet another special session in May (at taxpayers’ expense) to talk about property insurance, but where were these concerns in the regular legislative session. I suspect they were buried under the scripts of political theater designed to feature the governor. I guess I should be thankful that when I am homeless and uninsured at least I do not have to worry about textbooks in schools that might talk about the economic and racial divide in Florida or that teachers might accidentally launch into a sex education class in kindergarten. That is a solution looking for a problem.

Robin Frank, Tampa

I live in Florida and I am telling you, this is playing poorly here. We have actual needs that the legislature is just flat out ignoring in order to pursue these idiotic, harmful culture war bs battles.

Hopefully voters wake up and realize what the GOP brings to the table. They are only capable of hate and division.

Here's hoping. I don't love either person challenging DeSantis to be governor this time but - Jesus, I would take anything over this freak show. I know there are a lot of people who feel like I do, I just don't know if there's enough of us.

I’m moving to Florida in a few months, and look forward to voting against DeSantis.

Just don’t be disappointed to find out that you’re in the minority down there.

DeSantis beat Gillum by 32,463 votes. Not much of a majority.

Oof. DeSantis is toast.

We can hope, but in 2018, Trump had Democrats rabidly excited to cast votes against Republicans. I doubt deSantis without Trump in the White House generates that kind of energy among Democratic voters.

I live in Fl and the thing is-Gillum just wasn't a good candidate. He had ethics issues, and after he lost his METH issues were put on public display. This time, Charlie Crist is planning a run-he is older-and Nikki Fried is too, the agriculture commissoner whose platform is pot. This will be interesting for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this whole story amounts to a political bee sting. By dissolving Reedy Creek, Florida Republicans probably made it a little more cumbersome and expensive for Disney to operate and grow, but — let’s be honest — it’s not that Disney won’t get what it wants. Look at Universal. They’ve aggressively expanded without a special taxing district. And we already know that Disney has no qualms about raising ticket prices to offset any increased business costs.

And while I personally don’t agree with Ron DeSantis on any issue, I see him as a fairly shrewd politician. At the end of the day he’s not going to do anything that jeopardizes tens of thousands of jobs in his state.

He already did. Word is Disney is looking to reduce its exposure in Florida. They were moving a 2,000 people executive center to Florida….not any more. It’s just bad political to force companies to attack their customers and employees.

I hope you're right, but I goggled and cannot find a source. What's yours?

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The Walt Disney Company recently announced it would be moving 2,000 jobs to the central Florida neighborhood of Lake Nona. The move comes as both Walt Disney World and Disneyland have reopened and have continued to increase capacity at their respective theme parks. With the reopenings comes the lure of Walt Disney World’s 50th anniversary celebrations starting October 1, and the debut of the all new Avengers Campus at Disney California Adventure.

Employees who will be asked to relocate will mostly be part of the Parks, Experiences and Products division who don’t have full dedication to the Disneyland Resort. This also includes some roles that work with Disney’s international theme parks. Josh D’Amaro, Chairman, Disney Parks, Experiences and Products and other Disney officials have said that the Burbank offices are not completely leaving Southern California, where the film and television divisions of the company are located. In fact, the 2,000 jobs that are being relocated are less than five percent of Disney’s staff in California

https://www.forbes.com/sites/megandubois/2021/07/19/disney-is-moving-2000-jobs-to-central-florida-in-an-unprecedented-uprooting/?sh=7dcc647c249d

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They might delay the move but I doubt that they’ll scrap it. Moving the Parks division to Florida was a cost savings move. Disney can pay much lower salaries down the road in Florida and it will be more difficult for people to change jobs without relocating again. They can reduce their headcount as the many who don’t want to move will find other employment in LA and the ones who do will be stuck there. Disney doesn’t have to fund travel and temporary assignments back and forth as much etc. No retention salary increases. Florida was giving them a 500 million tax treat to sweeten the deal. For a penny pinching operations guy like Chapek whose experience was the parks not the content or entertainment side of the house it was predictable. Iger would have avoided the move because he would have wanted to steer clear of the divisive politics between CA and Disney, The pennies saved wouldn’t be worth tarnishing the brand. But Chapek, the PR clueless s in charge. He’s already spent money on the executive center so I doubt they’ll scrap it.

They might delay the move which would make the drooling Orlando real estate agents and developers poop their pants. They have been dying to get their hands on CA buyers who don’t blink at real estate prices and drive up any market.

Getting a 25% tax increase is going to cool the Orlando real estate market.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this whole story amounts to a political bee sting. By dissolving Reedy Creek, Florida Republicans probably made it a little more cumbersome and expensive for Disney to operate and grow, but — let’s be honest — it’s not that Disney won’t get what it wants. Look at Universal. They’ve aggressively expanded without a special taxing district. And we already know that Disney has no qualms about raising ticket prices to offset any increased business costs.

And while I personally don’t agree with Ron DeSantis on any issue, I see him as a fairly shrewd politician. At the end of the day he’s not going to do anything that jeopardizes tens of thousands of jobs in his state.

He already did. Word is Disney is looking to reduce its exposure in Florida. They were moving a 2,000 people executive center to Florida….not any more. It’s just bad political to force companies to attack their customers and employees.

I hope you're right, but I goggled and cannot find a source. What's yours?

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The Walt Disney Company recently announced it would be moving 2,000 jobs to the central Florida neighborhood of Lake Nona. The move comes as both Walt Disney World and Disneyland have reopened and have continued to increase capacity at their respective theme parks. With the reopenings comes the lure of Walt Disney World’s 50th anniversary celebrations starting October 1, and the debut of the all new Avengers Campus at Disney California Adventure.

Employees who will be asked to relocate will mostly be part of the Parks, Experiences and Products division who don’t have full dedication to the Disneyland Resort. This also includes some roles that work with Disney’s international theme parks. Josh D’Amaro, Chairman, Disney Parks, Experiences and Products and other Disney officials have said that the Burbank offices are not completely leaving Southern California, where the film and television divisions of the company are located. In fact, the 2,000 jobs that are being relocated are less than five percent of Disney’s staff in California

https://www.forbes.com/sites/megandubois/2021/07/19/disney-is-moving-2000-jobs-to-central-florida-in-an-unprecedented-uprooting/?sh=7dcc647c249d

My Sister works for Disney and was part of that move. 80% have already moved, it’s not on hold at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Letter to the editor in today's Tampa Bay Times:

https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/2022/04/23/to-be-fair-shouldnt-the-villages-also-lose-its-special-district-status-letters/?itm_source=parsely-api

Please help me understand why our governor and Republican state legislators cannot find the time to address the needs of everyday taxpayers in this state. Instead of seeking ways to increase health care for the uninsured, reduce skyrocketing rents for soon-to-be homeless Floridians and address property insurance costs, they are busy attacking Disney and creating voting districts that favor their base. Yes, they are holding yet another special session in May (at taxpayers’ expense) to talk about property insurance, but where were these concerns in the regular legislative session. I suspect they were buried under the scripts of political theater designed to feature the governor. I guess I should be thankful that when I am homeless and uninsured at least I do not have to worry about textbooks in schools that might talk about the economic and racial divide in Florida or that teachers might accidentally launch into a sex education class in kindergarten. That is a solution looking for a problem.

Robin Frank, Tampa

I live in Florida and I am telling you, this is playing poorly here. We have actual needs that the legislature is just flat out ignoring in order to pursue these idiotic, harmful culture war bs battles.

Hopefully voters wake up and realize what the GOP brings to the table. They are only capable of hate and division.

Here's hoping. I don't love either person challenging DeSantis to be governor this time but - Jesus, I would take anything over this freak show. I know there are a lot of people who feel like I do, I just don't know if there's enough of us.

I’m moving to Florida in a few months, and look forward to voting against DeSantis.

Just don’t be disappointed to find out that you’re in the minority down there.

DeSantis beat Gillum by 32,463 votes. Not much of a majority.

But a lot of Floridians are very happy with DeSantis's performance, even many who didn't vote for him. He opened schools in Fall of 2020, kept beaches open, and kept businesses open for customers.