ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

100% this
Maybe this is bad parenting but when daughter was on "B" squad, I told her anytime you join training with "A" squad girls and there is a challenge you knock them on there butt. She did it with a smile. can't Coach aggression at a young age, but can eventually control it.

[Anonymous]

"RAE creeps in deep along a players journey and when ppl say, don't worry, it goes away when they are older....its way too late by then."

Spot on!

[Anonymous]

It helps if you've coached or managed human beings. Children especially. They are sponges picking up on tiny signals telling them who they are and what they're worth.

My daughter is a Q4 kid that believes she's amazing. She's an incredible athlete that is far faster and stronger than 2013's but average for 2012's because she's a year behind her peers.

Keeping her motivated and loving soccer has been intentional and difficult at times. Let's just accept RAE and find ways to mitigate it the best we can along a childs journey. We'll keep more kids playing that way and develop a stronger soccer culture in the US, which the the goal we all have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People are delusional if they feel RAE is not present in the soccer ecosystem. 5 years in the game, and have seen this first hand with my daughter at tryouts when she was 8 or 9. Have a daughter that is q3 that was placed on the "B" team, that eventually moved up to "A" team after a year and half.
"A" team had better coaching/ training times,better tournament's ect...when inclement weather canceled training "B" team stayed home "A" team moved indoors. 12 of the 14 girls on "A" team were Q1/Q2 with the other 2 being placed because of transion from a competing club in the area.
After 2 years I would say most of the "B" team girls either quit soccer all together or choose diffrent sports.
Clubs definitely put all these Q1/Q2 girls at a young age on the top team initially because it is harder to evaluate talent at 9 years old.
I guess I was naive when this came up on the ECNL podcast over the summer regarding age bias. As the team manager I went though all my game cards from last year and looked at the opposing birthday's of all the teams we played and it was overwhelmingly Q1/Q2 girls we were playing. (Ohio/Michigan ECNL)
Yes your kid is given an advantage before they even step on the pitch at 8 years old when they start club due to there age, and given more attention on the "A" at such a young age.

Excellent post and mirrors what I've seen for my daughter as well. The inclement weather training/cancellations hit particularly close to home for us.

[Anonymous]

The RAE deciples realize that going from BY to SY doesn't change anything. Correct?

All you're doing is shifting those most affected from December birthdays to July birthdays. The exact same amount of players are affected.

Using RAE to justify SY is laughable and disingenuous.

[Anonymous]

RAE and trapped players are real. Only one can be fixed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People are delusional if they feel RAE is not present in the soccer ecosystem. 5 years in the game, and have seen this first hand with my daughter at tryouts when she was 8 or 9. Have a daughter that is q3 that was placed on the "B" team, that eventually moved up to "A" team after a year and half.
"A" team had better coaching/ training times,better tournament's ect...when inclement weather canceled training "B" team stayed home "A" team moved indoors. 12 of the 14 girls on "A" team were Q1/Q2 with the other 2 being placed because of transion from a competing club in the area.
After 2 years I would say most of the "B" team girls either quit soccer all together or choose diffrent sports.
Clubs definitely put all these Q1/Q2 girls at a young age on the top team initially because it is harder to evaluate talent at 9 years old.
I guess I was naive when this came up on the ECNL podcast over the summer regarding age bias. As the team manager I went though all my game cards from last year and looked at the opposing birthday's of all the teams we played and it was overwhelmingly Q1/Q2 girls we were playing. (Ohio/Michigan ECNL)
Yes your kid is given an advantage before they even step on the pitch at 8 years old when they start club due to there age, and given more attention on the "A" at such a young age.

My kid is a Sept g2010 who starts and has played on the top team since she was 5.

While I acknowledge that some kids are going to be bigger because they were born in Jan. By the time they're u14 things even out.

Also my daughter also has played high level futsal since age 6, does strength training, when younger guested for all kinds of different teams, and occasionally does private lessons.

There's a reason she's on the top 2010 starting as a "trapped" player.

Sometimes I feel the RAE patents need to give it a rest. Either get better or move onto a different sport. Things don't get easier as they get older and after u14 nobody cares about RAE anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are delusional if they feel RAE is not present in the soccer ecosystem. 5 years in the game, and have seen this first hand with my daughter at tryouts when she was 8 or 9. Have a daughter that is q3 that was placed on the "B" team, that eventually moved up to "A" team after a year and half.
"A" team had better coaching/ training times,better tournament's ect...when inclement weather canceled training "B" team stayed home "A" team moved indoors. 12 of the 14 girls on "A" team were Q1/Q2 with the other 2 being placed because of transion from a competing club in the area.
After 2 years I would say most of the "B" team girls either quit soccer all together or choose diffrent sports.
Clubs definitely put all these Q1/Q2 girls at a young age on the top team initially because it is harder to evaluate talent at 9 years old.
I guess I was naive when this came up on the ECNL podcast over the summer regarding age bias. As the team manager I went though all my game cards from last year and looked at the opposing birthday's of all the teams we played and it was overwhelmingly Q1/Q2 girls we were playing. (Ohio/Michigan ECNL)
Yes your kid is given an advantage before they even step on the pitch at 8 years old when they start club due to there age, and given more attention on the "A" at such a young age.

My kid is a Sept g2010 who starts and has played on the top team since she was 5.

While I acknowledge that some kids are going to be bigger because they were born in Jan. By the time they're u14 things even out.

Also my daughter also has played high level futsal since age 6, does strength training, when younger guested for all kinds of different teams, and occasionally does private lessons.

There's a reason she's on the top 2010 starting as a "trapped" player.

Sometimes I feel the RAE patents need to give it a rest. Either get better or move onto a different sport. Things don't get easier as they get older and after u14 nobody cares about RAE anymore.

You get a cookie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:RAE and trapped players are real. Only one can be fixed.

Best quote so far

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The RAE deciples realize that going from BY to SY doesn't change anything. Correct?

All you're doing is shifting those most affected from December birthdays to July birthdays. The exact same amount of players are affected.

Using RAE to justify SY is laughable and disingenuous.

The same could be said for the justification of changing to BY. As a matter of fact they admit it won't solve it but it will help them to better "understand".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:RAE and trapped players are real. Only one can be fixed.

RAE can easily be fixed.

Leagues just need to give players born in the 2nd half of the eligibility window the option to play down.

Then when they hit u13 or u14 take the playing down option away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are delusional if they feel RAE is not present in the soccer ecosystem. 5 years in the game, and have seen this first hand with my daughter at tryouts when she was 8 or 9. Have a daughter that is q3 that was placed on the "B" team, that eventually moved up to "A" team after a year and half.
"A" team had better coaching/ training times,better tournament's ect...when inclement weather canceled training "B" team stayed home "A" team moved indoors. 12 of the 14 girls on "A" team were Q1/Q2 with the other 2 being placed because of transion from a competing club in the area.
After 2 years I would say most of the "B" team girls either quit soccer all together or choose diffrent sports.
Clubs definitely put all these Q1/Q2 girls at a young age on the top team initially because it is harder to evaluate talent at 9 years old.
I guess I was naive when this came up on the ECNL podcast over the summer regarding age bias. As the team manager I went though all my game cards from last year and looked at the opposing birthday's of all the teams we played and it was overwhelmingly Q1/Q2 girls we were playing. (Ohio/Michigan ECNL)
Yes your kid is given an advantage before they even step on the pitch at 8 years old when they start club due to there age, and given more attention on the "A" at such a young age.

My kid is a Sept g2010 who starts and has played on the top team since she was 5.

While I acknowledge that some kids are going to be bigger because they were born in Jan. By the time they're u14 things even out.

Also my daughter also has played high level futsal since age 6, does strength training, when younger guested for all kinds of different teams, and occasionally does private lessons.

There's a reason she's on the top 2010 starting as a "trapped" player.

Sometimes I feel the RAE patents need to give it a rest. Either get better or move onto a different sport. Things don't get easier as they get older and after u14 nobody cares about RAE anymore.

OMG, so I guess the reason 70% of D1 recruits are born Jan-June is because Q4 kids just aren't trying hard enough or didn't have the talent your kid has. That's not smug or elitist at all.

RAE is very real. Its heavily affects kids and causes them to drop out of the sport. Lets all just admit it and move on. Then we can start thinking through ways to help kids on the lower end of the band. Get better or move to another sport, lol. What a pompous blowhard. As your daughter does private coaching (money), training (money), tons of club teams (money, money, money). Your kid is privileged, we get it. The rest of us peasants will pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and go find a new sport I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The RAE deciples realize that going from BY to SY doesn't change anything. Correct?

All you're doing is shifting those most affected from December birthdays to July birthdays. The exact same amount of players are affected.

Using RAE to justify SY is laughable and disingenuous.

You mean, as has been stated in 400 pages of this thread?? Can you read? Yes, everyone is aware going to SY changes nothing with RAE but it solves for a bunch of other issues....hence its better and wanted by the majority of stakeholders. Not one person here is using RAE as a reason to move to SY, your comprehension is near zero, get that checked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The RAE deciples realize that going from BY to SY doesn't change anything. Correct?

All you're doing is shifting those most affected from December birthdays to July birthdays. The exact same amount of players are affected.

Using RAE to justify SY is laughable and disingenuous.

You mean, as has been stated in 400 pages of this thread?? Can you read? Yes, everyone is aware going to SY changes nothing with RAE but it solves for a bunch of other issues....hence its better and wanted by the majority of stakeholders. Not one person here is using RAE as a reason to move to SY, your comprehension is near zero, get that checked.

If RAE doesn't change with BY or SY why do people keep bringing it up on a thread about BY and SY.?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RAE and trapped players are real. Only one can be fixed.

RAE can easily be fixed.

Leagues just need to give players born in the 2nd half of the eligibility window the option to play down.

Then when they hit u13 or u14 take the playing down option away.

Clubs could also treat B teams with predominantly younger players as equal with the quality of coaches and opportunity. But they don't.