How to handle this situation

[Anonymous]

I work for a large company and our hours are 9am to 6pm, however most people stay much later until 7/8pm many nights because we are all swamped. I oversee two junior staff members who blatantly disregard our "office hours" and tend to come in between 9:15-9:30am most days, and sneak out around 5:30-5:45pm because they think we don't notice. I am a working mom with two young kids at home, and typically get to the office around 9:15am (before the employees who report to me!) and am out the door right at 6. My issue is that these junior staffers should NOT be the first ones out the door each night and should be coming in on time. The problem is they use me as the example - sometimes I need to leave early or come in later for something kid related, and so they feel entitled to do the same but for things like going to the gym or getting a manicure or whatever. I am 38 and have paid my dues, and these employees are 24 and 26, so they have not. And, I wouldn't have a problem if it was once in a while, but it's every day now. Plus - they aren't finishing all of their work and often push off deadlines. Now that all 3 of us are in late and leaving early it's becoming obvious to others that we work shorter hours and must be the "fun team" because others work much later almost every day.

I am just not sure how to address this because again, I can't practice what I preach exactly. Do I say something to them or let it go? How would you approach it?

[Anonymous]

You need to find a way to arrive by 9. Practice what you preach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work for a large company and our hours are 9am to 6pm, however most people stay much later until 7/8pm many nights because we are all swamped. I oversee two junior staff members who blatantly disregard our "office hours" and tend to come in between 9:15-9:30am most days, and sneak out around 5:30-5:45pm because they think we don't notice. I am a working mom with two young kids at home, and typically get to the office around 9:15am (before the employees who report to me!) and am out the door right at 6. My issue is that these junior staffers should NOT be the first ones out the door each night and should be coming in on time. The problem is they use me as the example - sometimes I need to leave early or come in later for something kid related, and so they feel entitled to do the same but for things like going to the gym or getting a manicure or whatever. I am 38 and have paid my dues, and these employees are 24 and 26, so they have not. And, I wouldn't have a problem if it was once in a while, but it's every day now. Plus - they aren't finishing all of their work and often push off deadlines. Now that all 3 of us are in late and leaving early it's becoming obvious to others that we work shorter hours and must be the "fun team" because others work much later almost every day.

I am just not sure how to address this because again, I can't practice what I preach exactly. Do I say something to them or let it go? How would you approach it?

Don't focus on the hours - focus on them not finishing their work and pushing off deadlines.

[Anonymous]

All of you need to start working from 9-6. If you're not willing to do that, you shouldn't say anything at all. It doesn't matter if you're 38 and have "paid your dues."

[Anonymous]

If they aren't doing the work they should be, it's an issue. But it's also a bad work environment to say "you need to be here at 9 and leave no earlier than 6. But ignore the fact that other people aren't held to these.hours".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All of you need to start working from 9-6. If you're not willing to do that, you shouldn't say anything at all. It doesn't matter if you're 38 and have "paid your dues."

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work for a large company and our hours are 9am to 6pm, however most people stay much later until 7/8pm many nights because we are all swamped. I oversee two junior staff members who blatantly disregard our "office hours" and tend to come in between 9:15-9:30am most days, and sneak out around 5:30-5:45pm because they think we don't notice. I am a working mom with two young kids at home, and typically get to the office around 9:15am (before the employees who report to me!) and am out the door right at 6. My issue is that these junior staffers should NOT be the first ones out the door each night and should be coming in on time. The problem is they use me as the example - sometimes I need to leave early or come in later for something kid related, and so they feel entitled to do the same but for things like going to the gym or getting a manicure or whatever. I am 38 and have paid my dues, and these employees are 24 and 26, so they have not. And, I wouldn't have a problem if it was once in a while, but it's every day now. Plus - they aren't finishing all of their work and often push off deadlines. Now that all 3 of us are in late and leaving early it's becoming obvious to others that we work shorter hours and must be the "fun team" because others work much later almost every day.

I am just not sure how to address this because again, I can't practice what I preach exactly. Do I say something to them or let it go? How would you approach it?

The bolded part is what you need to address. They are not finishing their work. The rest is irrelevant. Your age and family status compared to theirs is irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

No one cares that you have family obligations, sorry. You're sending a message to the new kids that your needs are more important than theirs. You need to set the example and show up on time. Secondly, if you are their boss, why are you not cracking down on the fact that they don't pull their weight while there? Your problems are multiple

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work for a large company and our hours are 9am to 6pm, however most people stay much later until 7/8pm many nights because we are all swamped. I oversee two junior staff members who blatantly disregard our "office hours" and tend to come in between 9:15-9:30am most days, and sneak out around 5:30-5:45pm because they think we don't notice. I am a working mom with two young kids at home, and typically get to the office around 9:15am (before the employees who report to me!) and am out the door right at 6. My issue is that these junior staffers should NOT be the first ones out the door each night and should be coming in on time. The problem is they use me as the example - sometimes I need to leave early or come in later for something kid related, and so they feel entitled to do the same but for things like going to the gym or getting a manicure or whatever. I am 38 and have paid my dues, and these employees are 24 and 26, so they have not. And, I wouldn't have a problem if it was once in a while, but it's every day now. Plus - they aren't finishing all of their work and often push off deadlines. Now that all 3 of us are in late and leaving early it's becoming obvious to others that we work shorter hours and must be the "fun team" because others work much later almost every day.

I am just not sure how to address this because again, I can't practice what I preach exactly. Do I say something to them or let it go? How would you approach it?

The bolded part is what you need to address. They are not finishing their work. The rest is irrelevant. Your age and family status compared to theirs is irrelevant.

+1. I have a kid but I rolled my eyes so hard at your excuses for why it's ok for you to leave early. Focus on the deadlines they're pushing and enforce them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of you need to start working from 9-6. If you're not willing to do that, you shouldn't say anything at all. It doesn't matter if you're 38 and have "paid your dues."

+1

Also, why are your life activities more important than theirs. Good bosses don't make those judgements.

[Anonymous]

You can send a mailing or announce at a meeting that Core Hours are 9-6 and everyone needs to observe Core Hours. Tell them that you are reinforcing Core Hours because deadlines are being pushed off and projects are not being completed.

[Anonymous]

Are you upset they leave early or are you upset that they don't stay until 7 or 8?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of you need to start working from 9-6. If you're not willing to do that, you shouldn't say anything at all. It doesn't matter if you're 38 and have "paid your dues."

+1

+2 also, being late because your kid had a thing is not an excuse. It's your personal life. If you need to handle it within business hours, use an hour of vacation time each morning you'll be late.

[Anonymous]

I really hope you're a troll otherwise you are the exact reason people complain about mothers in the workplace. Why are your snowflakes a better excuse than anyone else's to show up late?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work for a large company and our hours are 9am to 6pm, however most people stay much later until 7/8pm many nights because we are all swamped. I oversee two junior staff members who blatantly disregard our "office hours" and tend to come in between 9:15-9:30am most days, and sneak out around 5:30-5:45pm because they think we don't notice. I am a working mom with two young kids at home, and typically get to the office around 9:15am (before the employees who report to me!) and am out the door right at 6. My issue is that these junior staffers should NOT be the first ones out the door each night and should be coming in on time. The problem is they use me as the example - sometimes I need to leave early or come in later for something kid related, and so they feel entitled to do the same but for things like going to the gym or getting a manicure or whatever. I am 38 and have paid my dues, and these employees are 24 and 26, so they have not. And, I wouldn't have a problem if it was once in a while, but it's every day now. Plus - they aren't finishing all of their work and often push off deadlines. Now that all 3 of us are in late and leaving early it's becoming obvious to others that we work shorter hours and must be the "fun team" because others work much later almost every day.

I am just not sure how to address this because again, I can't practice what I preach exactly. Do I say something to them or let it go? How would you approach it?

The bolded part is what you need to address. They are not finishing their work. The rest is irrelevant. Your age and family status compared to theirs is irrelevant.

+1,000 Thanks a lot for being the perfect example of why people dislike female bosses. Their hours have nothing to do with the problem here--focus on them not getting things done or meeting deadlines.

Why are your personal obligations more important than theirs?? You sound awful and resentful.