Are the NNAT and CogAT timed?

[Anonymous]

Are the NNAT and CogAT timed?

[Anonymous]

NNAT is timed: 30 minutes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NNAT is timed: 30 minutes

Not OP, but I did not know that. Is that listed anywhere? So only NNAT is timed?

[Anonymous]

NNAT is 30 minutes, but teacher let everyone finish, even the slowest. I advised my DC of this possibility before hand, so DC used the extra time to go back and double-check every answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NNAT is 30 minutes, but teacher let everyone finish, even the slowest. I advised my DC of this possibility before hand, so DC used the extra time to go back and double-check every answer.

Interesting. Doesn't seem quite fair to the 99% of other kids in the county who stuck to the 30 minute requirement now, does it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NNAT is 30 minutes, but teacher let everyone finish, even the slowest. I advised my DC of this possibility before hand, so DC used the extra time to go back and double-check every answer.

Interesting. Doesn't seem quite fair to the 99% of other kids in the county who stuck to the 30 minute requirement now, does it?

I guess not, but I specifically asked my DC to look for this and let me know whether a time limit was enforced. DC said no. DC said everyone finished, and there was no clock or time's up ending to exam.

You better collect more data before you draw 99% conclusions though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NNAT is 30 minutes, but teacher let everyone finish, even the slowest. I advised my DC of this possibility before hand, so DC used the extra time to go back and double-check every answer.

Interesting. Doesn't seem quite fair to the 99% of other kids in the county who stuck to the 30 minute requirement now, does it?

I guess not, but I specifically asked my DC to look for this and let me know whether a time limit was enforced. DC said no. DC said everyone finished, and there was no clock or time's up ending to exam.

You better collect more data before you draw 99% conclusions though.

Does it really matter if the percentage is 94% or 99.99%? I'm sure you understood the point of my post even though none of us know the correct percentage of kids whose teachers followed the testing procedures, didn't you? Both of mine are in aap so it doesn't affect me, but, if true, this is patently unfair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NNAT is 30 minutes, but teacher let everyone finish, even the slowest. I advised my DC of this possibility before hand, so DC used the extra time to go back and double-check every answer.

Your son has not reported that the teacher went beyond 30 minutes. She may have noticed that everyone was done by 25 minutes and prompted everyone to go back and check while the slowest were finishing up.

[Anonymous]

We will ask the school later once we get results. My DC knows how to keep time very well and wears a watch. It is not a difficult test, and DC knew how to pace the questions over 30 minutes. DC said no time limit was called at 30, and it allowed the ability to go back and review all of them on the computer. Just reporting the facts. Perhaps in 1G the time limits are not super strict. Or perhaps my DC is making this all up. But DC was instructed to take mental notes on the test administration in order to know time limits for our other children coming through system. People can continue on all they want about the fairness, that was not the original question. Sheesh. Typical response that I expected . . . so I guess par for the course with the complainers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We will ask the school later once we get results. My DC knows how to keep time very well and wears a watch. It is not a difficult test, and DC knew how to pace the questions over 30 minutes. DC said no time limit was called at 30, and it allowed the ability to go back and review all of them on the computer. Just reporting the facts. Perhaps in 1G the time limits are not super strict. Or perhaps my DC is making this all up. But DC was instructed to take mental notes on the test administration in order to know time limits for our other children coming through system. People can continue on all they want about the fairness, that was not the original question. Sheesh. Typical response that I expected . . . so I guess par for the course with the complainers.

Everyone just read the bolded statements. OP is talking about a 7 year old first grader being coached to "take mental notes." . Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will ask the school later once we get results. My DC knows how to keep time very well and wears a watch. It is not a difficult test, and DC knew how to pace the questions over 30 minutes. DC said no time limit was called at 30, and it allowed the ability to go back and review all of them on the computer. Just reporting the facts. Perhaps in 1G the time limits are not super strict. Or perhaps my DC is making this all up. But DC was instructed to take mental notes on the test administration in order to know time limits for our other children coming through system. People can continue on all they want about the fairness, that was not the original question. Sheesh. Typical response that I expected . . . so I guess par for the course with the complainers.

Everyone just read the bolded statements. OP is talking about a 7 year old first grader being coached to "take mental notes." . Wow.

Yep. Poor kid.

[Anonymous]

CogAT is not timed for 1st and 2nd grade because the teacher is reading each question (i.e Fill in the bubble next to the triangle, etc) and the students all track with her and answer the questions at the same time.
Starting in 3rd grade the teacher doesn't read anything and each section is timed.

-Teacher who has administered the CogAT hundreds of times

[Anonymous]

From the NNAT-2 Administration Manual:

"Students are allowed 30 minutes to complete the 48 test items on the NNAT2. Completion
of the sample items takes approximately 5 minutes and is not included in the 30 minute
time limit. Students must be allowed exactly 30 minutes to complete the 48 item test. Test
administrators should anticipate that administration of the test will also require about
10 minutes for distribution and collection of the forms. Test administrators should, therefore
allot approximately 45 minutes for the entire session. If students have little experience with
this type of form, the demographic information can be completed with assistance. The test
administrator should not schedule the test if there is any doubt that sufficient time is available
for students to complete the NNAT2. "

https://www.bvsd.org/tag/TAGadvisordocuments/Shared%20Documents/NNAT2/NNAT2_DirectionsForAdministrationOnline.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the NNAT-2 Administration Manual:

"Students are allowed 30 minutes to complete the 48 test items on the NNAT2. Completion
of the sample items takes approximately 5 minutes and is not included in the 30 minute
time limit. Students must be allowed exactly 30 minutes to complete the 48 item test. Test
administrators should anticipate that administration of the test will also require about
10 minutes for distribution and collection of the forms. Test administrators should, therefore
allot approximately 45 minutes for the entire session. If students have little experience with
this type of form, the demographic information can be completed with assistance. The test
administrator should not schedule the test if there is any doubt that sufficient time is available
for students to complete the NNAT2. "

https://www.bvsd.org/tag/TAGadvisordocuments/Shared%20Documents/NNAT2/NNAT2_DirectionsForAdministrationOnline.pdf

Do you think they still hand out forms if it is on the computer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the NNAT-2 Administration Manual:

"Students are allowed 30 minutes to complete the 48 test items on the NNAT2. Completion
of the sample items takes approximately 5 minutes and is not included in the 30 minute
time limit. Students must be allowed exactly 30 minutes to complete the 48 item test. Test
administrators should anticipate that administration of the test will also require about
10 minutes for distribution and collection of the forms. Test administrators should, therefore
allot approximately 45 minutes for the entire session. If students have little experience with
this type of form, the demographic information can be completed with assistance. The test
administrator should not schedule the test if there is any doubt that sufficient time is available
for students to complete the NNAT2. "

https://www.bvsd.org/tag/TAGadvisordocuments/Shared%20Documents/NNAT2/NNAT2_DirectionsForAdministrationOnline.pdf

Do you think they still hand out forms if it is on the computer?

Click on the link and read the manual for yourself. It includes paper and computer directions.