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WSJ - you won’t be able to “keep your health-care plan”
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Repealing ERISA
Obama health plan would repeal Erisa One by one, President Obama’s health-care promises are being exposed by the details of the actual legislation: Costs will explode, not fall; taxes will have to soar to pay for it; and now we are learning that you won’t be able to “keep your health-care plan” either. The reality is that the House health bill, which the Administration praised to the rafters, will force drastic changes in almost all insurance coverage, including the employer plans that currently work best. About 177 million people—or 62% of those under age 65—get insurance today through their jobs, and while rising costs are a problem, according to every survey most employees are happy with the coverage. A major reason for this relative success is a 1974 federal law known by the acronym Erisa, or the Employee Retirement Income Security Act. For the full article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203946904574298661486528186.html |
Anonymous
| Yup, more broken promises...the only change we got is Obama "changing his mind" on all he promised to the poor suckers that voted for him. |
Anonymous
| Yep, best to move to Monaco or the Cayman Islands. Get on it! |
Anonymous
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But did you see the press conference last night. I was amazed at how much he manipulated and lied. He took it to a whole new level. He managed to insult doctors. Seriously there is still tort law and no doctor is going to operate on a child for the hell of it and if it was found out they did, they would be sued and lose their license. I was also laughing at how he side stepped the Cleveland Dealer's query that he say that all members of Congress would use the public option for their insurance. He went on about how there will be a number of choices and sidestepped the whole issue. I predict one we go to single payer and we will because the finances do not work and of course he lied about that because when the government has so many in their program the privates will not be able to compete. Also many many people will lose their insurance through their jobs because of the taxes and it will be cheaper for a company to push everyone to public and that insurance is just not going to be good as the insurance you currently have.
Insurance is available to everyone and yes it cost money. it just does and too many people in this country choose not to buy it. I was dispapointed that I saw really no tough questions and no good follow ups when he was obviously bull .......I wanted him to explain why large parts of the bill have TBD by executive office which means the legislative body will not have input and there is the really scary part where people like him can decide when you can have treatment or not. He was also lying about how he wasn't really looking at the August deadline. Bull .... he would have signed anything and he would like to have all the say and rush this through. Also he was lying about the doctors have complete input-this is not true according to both bills that are being discussed government people will be involved in incentivizing doctors. Remember that insurance in Canada and England sucks and all people with money get private plans on top of it. If you have insurance, do you really want to pay more taxes and then have to still buy insurance but this time completely on your own. This is a huge fraud. |
jsteele
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If you read the entire article and do a little of your own thinking, it's pretty clear that this is another example of misinformation. No wonder it is in the "opinion" section rather than the news section of the Murdock Journal.
All the measure does is require the employer plans to meet a minimum standard of benefits. What's wrong with that? Would you rather your employer provide you with such crappy insurance that it is even worse than the public option? Any plan that doesn't suck will not have any problems. The only people who won't get to keep their insurance are those whose employer offers a plan that doesn't meet the minimal standards. Those people will be better off on the public option. Why are so many of you opposed to people having affordable access to healthcare? I just don't understand it. |
Anonymous
| The higher taxes that employers are now going to have to pay will force many to just pay the penalty and drop their care which will drive people to the public option and the public option is not going to be good. It has not chance. just doesn't. There are so many problems with this, I don't have time to go into it but for anyone who has good insurance, why would you want to ruin the best care in the world. Most doctors think this is awful. |
jsteele
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Oh, that must be why the AMA endorsed the House plan with the public option included: http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/news/news/ama-affirms-support.shtml Also, see the AMA's FAQ here: http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/399/hsr-hr3200-faqs.pdf That pretty much blows away most of the arguments against the plan. |
Anonymous
The AMA is supporting it but the individual doctors in large part do not! As a person who has some health issues and I lead a very healthy life style, the idea of the "panel of Drs to decide medical protocols" is very scary to me. |
jsteele
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A "panel of doctors" is scary but an insurance company claims specialist is not scary? |
Anonymous
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When I found out that my insurance company would not cover my buying my expensive rabies vaccine at a pharmacy, I was scared! I thought I was going to go thousands of dollars in the hole. It turned out that they would pay for it as long as I got it at the hospital but of course that cost both them and me a LOT more money.
I'd rather have the panel of doctors decide. |
Anonymous
A panel of Drs deciding my care and what meds I can take and what tests I should have is scary...I can deal with the claims specialists and if they will pay or not. |
Anonymous
Because we would rather have QUALITY health care that is not rationed. |
jsteele
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Who is proposing rationing? If you have QUALITY healthcare, you will keep it. Are you seriously in favor of a system in which some people do not have access to healthcare? |
Anonymous
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Mr. Steele, the AMA does not represent doctors.
I am not in favor of universal care, if you are not legally in the US, then tough. Mr. Obama is disappointing me, and I voted for him. He is wading into some sh-- right now. He has it out for doctors. Jut wait until they start to retire at a pace that he can't replace them. I hope for Obama' sake that tis fails. He should have gone with a smaller plan, and tried to cut costs by restricting malpractice. |
Anonymous
| Interesting provision to note. Apparently if you leave your job and thus your private insurer, you have to go to the public plan. |