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I get what you’re saying. One of my kids plays tennis, and the internationals rule that landscape, so is poses a real issue. I guess what I’m discouraged about is that in their view, US Soccer ends at college, and that seems to be the only option they see for kids to continue playing. And let’s be honest, US college soccer does not produce or prepare, especially on the men’s side, players ready for professional play. College soccer is very different from professional soccer - obviously it has to. In a lot of ways HS soccer is a closer product to college soccer. And their vision doesn’t advance US soccer at all, it actually holds it back. I try to keep an open mind on this stuff. This is the first time I’ve come away from their podcasts think “wow, these guys are thinking way too narrowly and small. And I’m actually not so sure they are doing the homework on these big questions to inform their opinions.” |
Not "especially" on the girls side "only" from the girls side. I'm pretty sure that was what the talk about % of internationals was about. |
Actually 6 (the 7th is over 23) in back half and only 1 from Q4. So 70% in 1st half and 30% in 2nd half. |
? “They should go no further” ? |
If you’re stuck into the BY/SY debate you won’t be able to see the logic. The reason for this is because BY is the international standard (but England…blah blah blah…we’re not talking about the BY/SY debate!). Aligning to a signal standard nationally and internationally allows you to look at your player pools and compare them across geographies and globally to see what the oldest cohort in an age is supposed to look like, and the youngest, etc. In a SY cutoff, when looking at your “u16” your oldest is an August birthday, and your youngest a July. You can’t compare that to a normed benchmark internationally. And if your standard is not mandated nationally, you can’t even compare it nationally. In theory could you compare a 5/2010 kid to a 5/2010 kid? For sure. But the data isn’t that granular, and it’s age band based because RAE (and this is a common misunderstanding) is more than just size, it’s also soccer iq, technique, athleticism, maturity, cognitive ability, visual ability (convergence/divergence, depth perception, peripheral, etc). |
But that's the same team the August kids would play on if the cut off is 9/1. How would it benefit them to be mandated to play on a team that they wouldn't make if if the cut off is 8/1? |
If you are trying to say that youth soccer was on board with the age change in 2015 and RAE isn't in youth national teams, you are going to need to do better than say that the Olympics teams aren't real and Skye Eddie, the Pitch to Podcast folks and those on the ECNL podcasts know less than you. |
“Youth soccer” is doing a lot of work in your perspective. It’s not monolithic. Nobody said there is no RAE in YNT, that’s a strawman. Do some reading on it, there is research specifically on the YNT and RAE…maybe check that out? |
| 412?? That's all we got? Let's get back in the fight here folks. We're one leak away from 500. |
Couple of posts up, "The age distribution on the YNTs is fairly normal, not Q1 heavy. The theory is disproven by the outcome." I get that you are a USSF fan or employee but until you find someone not associated with USSF or MLS that feels that they did something right by youth soccer with the age cutoff in 2015, you are trying to create revisionist history. |
No I get that it was affecting our NT, I just think it’s circular reasoning. Pulisic and Mckinnie came up through the DA system. Pulisic being born in Sept. Was DA based on SY or BY? I wasn’t around during the last registration change so I am trying to understand it all a little better. Thanks for your input. |
Aug. 28 for McKinnie |
WHAT 😳? Due Date? |
What’s the circle on the logic? |
How is MLS Next a competing league to ECNL? |