MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

CDC say in K-12 school guidance that close contacts are those in close contact with someone who has a positive COVID test--not someone with a COVID symptom. "This allows identifying which students, teachers, and staff with positive COVID-19 test results should isolate, and which close contacts should quarantine." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/k-12-guidance.html#contact-tracing (see section 8, Contact Tracing in Combination with Isolation and Quarantine)

Except they also recommend regular testing and MCPS isn't doing that.

As schools go back to in-person learning, many offer free, regular COVID-19 testing for students and staff.
Regular testing, along with COVID-19 vaccination, helps protect students, staff, family members, and others who are not currently vaccinated against COVID-19 or are otherwise at risk for getting seriously sick from COVID-19.
Testing programs help keep students in the classroom and allow them to take part in the other activities they love.

Yes they are -- they have a testing program. But no way am I opting in given this, as MCPS appears focused on quarantining as many kids as possible rather than keeping them in school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right here in the definition of close contact

Close Contact through Proximity and Duration of Exposure: Someone who was within 6 feet of an infected person (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness)

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html

Exactly - an infected person, not someone who displays a symptom of infection.

What part of Clinically Compatible Illness do you not understand. Let me put it in easy to understand worlds for you. Clinically compatible = have a symptom or symptoms of the illness. A sore throat is clinically compatible to strep throat. It's also clinically compatible to Covid. So until you know which one it is for sure, you have unvaccinated kids quarantine so it doesn't spread if there is a positive test. I'd rather my kids come home for a few days while we wait and see instead of possibly exposing others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

We do get it, dingus. Every masked kid in the classroom is assumed to be within 1-2 feet of the offending student for over 15 minutes? How are they managing that magic trick?

15 minutes total in a 24 hour period. So they are 1-2ft for 5 minutes on the reading carpet, 5 minutes 4ft apart while eating lunch, 5 min. outside during recess while on the playground, 5 minutes working at a classroom center. That right there is 20 minutes of close contact.

How does an entire classroom occupy that small amount of physical space during reading carpet and lunch? And what grade does reading carpet end? Try again. Do better this time.

Because you have 25+ kids in a 30x30 size room genius. And ES puts desks of 4 in a group. Reading circle is in primary, but centers, group work, collaborative project assignments are K-12. Tell me you've never been inside a school without telling me you've never been inside a school.

Your explanations are just getting worse. Then quarantine the 4 in a group, not the entire class. Tell me you've never had an intelligent thought without telling me you've never had an intelligent thought.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

CDC say in K-12 school guidance that close contacts are those in close contact with someone who has a positive COVID test--not someone with a COVID symptom. "This allows identifying which students, teachers, and staff with positive COVID-19 test results should isolate, and which close contacts should quarantine." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/k-12-guidance.html#contact-tracing (see section 8, Contact Tracing in Combination with Isolation and Quarantine)

Except they also recommend regular testing and MCPS isn't doing that.

As schools go back to in-person learning, many offer free, regular COVID-19 testing for students and staff.
Regular testing, along with COVID-19 vaccination, helps protect students, staff, family members, and others who are not currently vaccinated against COVID-19 or are otherwise at risk for getting seriously sick from COVID-19.
Testing programs help keep students in the classroom and allow them to take part in the other activities they love.

Yes they are -- they have a testing program. But no way am I opting in given this, as MCPS appears focused on quarantining as many kids as possible rather than keeping them in school.

Sorry, if your child tests positive you plan on sending them in? This is why MCPS created this policy. It's kind of genius actually. Shame people into keeping their kids home. Sounds like it's the right move.

[Anonymous]

Why is MCPS just so bad at this? It's like we've lost the school district lottery on the issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

We do get it, dingus. Every masked kid in the classroom is assumed to be within 1-2 feet of the offending student for over 15 minutes? How are they managing that magic trick?

15 minutes total in a 24 hour period. So they are 1-2ft for 5 minutes on the reading carpet, 5 minutes 4ft apart while eating lunch, 5 min. outside during recess while on the playground, 5 minutes working at a classroom center. That right there is 20 minutes of close contact.

How does an entire classroom occupy that small amount of physical space during reading carpet and lunch? And what grade does reading carpet end? Try again. Do better this time.

Because you have 25+ kids in a 30x30 size room genius. And ES puts desks of 4 in a group. Reading circle is in primary, but centers, group work, collaborative project assignments are K-12. Tell me you've never been inside a school without telling me you've never been inside a school.

Don't do reading circles? Isolate the four? Why is this so hard for MCPS (and you)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

We do get it, dingus. Every masked kid in the classroom is assumed to be within 1-2 feet of the offending student for over 15 minutes? How are they managing that magic trick?

15 minutes total in a 24 hour period. So they are 1-2ft for 5 minutes on the reading carpet, 5 minutes 4ft apart while eating lunch, 5 min. outside during recess while on the playground, 5 minutes working at a classroom center. That right there is 20 minutes of close contact.

How does an entire classroom occupy that small amount of physical space during reading carpet and lunch? And what grade does reading carpet end? Try again. Do better this time.

Because you have 25+ kids in a 30x30 size room genius. And ES puts desks of 4 in a group. Reading circle is in primary, but centers, group work, collaborative project assignments are K-12. Tell me you've never been inside a school without telling me you've never been inside a school.

Your explanations are just getting worse. Then quarantine the 4 in a group, not the entire class. Tell me you've never had an intelligent thought without telling me you've never had an intelligent thought.

They will be in quarantine. But so will the classmates they sat shoulder to shoulder with at the cubbie for 3 minutes, and played tag with outside for 5 minutes, and switched tables to work on math for 10 minutes, and switched to another table to work on science for 5 minutes. Without physical distancing, there is no way for every kid in an elementary class to not be a close contact. Which is why rapid on-site testing is so important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is MCPS just so bad at this? It's like we've lost the school district lottery on the issue.

+ 1. I can’t believe left our lovely DC charter school community this crap. They just don’t care our kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

We do get it, dingus. Every masked kid in the classroom is assumed to be within 1-2 feet of the offending student for over 15 minutes? How are they managing that magic trick?

15 minutes total in a 24 hour period. So they are 1-2ft for 5 minutes on the reading carpet, 5 minutes 4ft apart while eating lunch, 5 min. outside during recess while on the playground, 5 minutes working at a classroom center. That right there is 20 minutes of close contact.

How does an entire classroom occupy that small amount of physical space during reading carpet and lunch? And what grade does reading carpet end? Try again. Do better this time.

Because you have 25+ kids in a 30x30 size room genius. And ES puts desks of 4 in a group. Reading circle is in primary, but centers, group work, collaborative project assignments are K-12. Tell me you've never been inside a school without telling me you've never been inside a school.

Your explanations are just getting worse. Then quarantine the 4 in a group, not the entire class. Tell me you've never had an intelligent thought without telling me you've never had an intelligent thought.

They will be in quarantine. But so will the classmates they sat shoulder to shoulder with at the cubbie for 3 minutes, and played tag with outside for 5 minutes, and switched tables to work on math for 10 minutes, and switched to another table to work on science for 5 minutes. Without physical distancing, there is no way for every kid in an elementary class to not be a close contact. Which is why rapid on-site testing is so important.

Then just quarantine the whole school, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right here in the definition of close contact

Close Contact through Proximity and Duration of Exposure: Someone who was within 6 feet of an infected person (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness)

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html

Exactly - an infected person, not someone who displays a symptom of infection.

What part of Clinically Compatible Illness do you not understand. Let me put it in easy to understand worlds for you. Clinically compatible = have a symptom or symptoms of the illness. A sore throat is clinically compatible to strep throat. It's also clinically compatible to Covid. So until you know which one it is for sure, you have unvaccinated kids quarantine so it doesn't spread if there is a positive test. I'd rather my kids come home for a few days while we wait and see instead of possibly exposing others.

That is not what it says in the guidance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

CDC say in K-12 school guidance that close contacts are those in close contact with someone who has a positive COVID test--not someone with a COVID symptom. "This allows identifying which students, teachers, and staff with positive COVID-19 test results should isolate, and which close contacts should quarantine." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/k-12-guidance.html#contact-tracing (see section 8, Contact Tracing in Combination with Isolation and Quarantine)

Except they also recommend regular testing and MCPS isn't doing that.

As schools go back to in-person learning, many offer free, regular COVID-19 testing for students and staff.
Regular testing, along with COVID-19 vaccination, helps protect students, staff, family members, and others who are not currently vaccinated against COVID-19 or are otherwise at risk for getting seriously sick from COVID-19.
Testing programs help keep students in the classroom and allow them to take part in the other activities they love.

Yes they are -- they have a testing program. But no way am I opting in given this, as MCPS appears focused on quarantining as many kids as possible rather than keeping them in school.

Sorry, if your child tests positive you plan on sending them in? This is why MCPS created this policy. It's kind of genius actually. Shame people into keeping their kids home. Sounds like it's the right move.

If my kids test positive, I will not send them in, but I am not having them tested at school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right here in the definition of close contact

Close Contact through Proximity and Duration of Exposure: Someone who was within 6 feet of an infected person (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness)

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html

Exactly - an infected person, not someone who displays a symptom of infection.

What part of Clinically Compatible Illness do you not understand. Let me put it in easy to understand worlds for you. Clinically compatible = have a symptom or symptoms of the illness. A sore throat is clinically compatible to strep throat. It's also clinically compatible to Covid. So until you know which one it is for sure, you have unvaccinated kids quarantine so it doesn't spread if there is a positive test. I'd rather my kids come home for a few days while we wait and see instead of possibly exposing others.

That is not what it says in the guidance.

That is exactly what it says in the guidance. I literally cut and pasted from the guidance. The problem is people are not reading the full guidance and the links within the guidance. That is where the details are that everyone likes to ignore. The guidance should be more clear but it is there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

We do get it, dingus. Every masked kid in the classroom is assumed to be within 1-2 feet of the offending student for over 15 minutes? How are they managing that magic trick?

15 minutes total in a 24 hour period. So they are 1-2ft for 5 minutes on the reading carpet, 5 minutes 4ft apart while eating lunch, 5 min. outside during recess while on the playground, 5 minutes working at a classroom center. That right there is 20 minutes of close contact.

How does an entire classroom occupy that small amount of physical space during reading carpet and lunch? And what grade does reading carpet end? Try again. Do better this time.

Because you have 25+ kids in a 30x30 size room genius. And ES puts desks of 4 in a group. Reading circle is in primary, but centers, group work, collaborative project assignments are K-12. Tell me you've never been inside a school without telling me you've never been inside a school.

Your explanations are just getting worse. Then quarantine the 4 in a group, not the entire class. Tell me you've never had an intelligent thought without telling me you've never had an intelligent thought.

Except the kids go to other rooms for specials and don't sit in those groups of 4, they also have different reading and math groups where they intermix. Then lunch, recesss....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

CDC say in K-12 school guidance that close contacts are those in close contact with someone who has a positive COVID test--not someone with a COVID symptom. "This allows identifying which students, teachers, and staff with positive COVID-19 test results should isolate, and which close contacts should quarantine." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/k-12-guidance.html#contact-tracing (see section 8, Contact Tracing in Combination with Isolation and Quarantine)

Except they also recommend regular testing and MCPS isn't doing that.

As schools go back to in-person learning, many offer free, regular COVID-19 testing for students and staff.
Regular testing, along with COVID-19 vaccination, helps protect students, staff, family members, and others who are not currently vaccinated against COVID-19 or are otherwise at risk for getting seriously sick from COVID-19.
Testing programs help keep students in the classroom and allow them to take part in the other activities they love.

Yes they are -- they have a testing program. But no way am I opting in given this, as MCPS appears focused on quarantining as many kids as possible rather than keeping them in school.

Sorry, if your child tests positive you plan on sending them in? This is why MCPS created this policy. It's kind of genius actually. Shame people into keeping their kids home. Sounds like it's the right move.

If my kids test positive, I will not send them in, but I am not having them tested at school.

That's fine but stop complaining when they quarantine based off symptoms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right here in the definition of close contact

Close Contact through Proximity and Duration of Exposure: Someone who was within 6 feet of an infected person (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness)

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html

Exactly - an infected person, not someone who displays a symptom of infection.

What part of Clinically Compatible Illness do you not understand. Let me put it in easy to understand worlds for you. Clinically compatible = have a symptom or symptoms of the illness. A sore throat is clinically compatible to strep throat. It's also clinically compatible to Covid. So until you know which one it is for sure, you have unvaccinated kids quarantine so it doesn't spread if there is a positive test. I'd rather my kids come home for a few days while we wait and see instead of possibly exposing others.

That is not what it says in the guidance.

That is exactly what it says in the guidance. I literally cut and pasted from the guidance. The problem is people are not reading the full guidance and the links within the guidance. That is where the details are that everyone likes to ignore. The guidance should be more clear but it is there.

It does not say that one symptom--which could be a symptom of MANY other problems--is clinically compatible.