MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only

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Anonymous wrote:The VA parents are hoping in person fails to justify their choice. Don’t fall for their click bait. It will be fine. A little messy for another month but they everyone will hit their stride and even if the stupid policy stands individual teachers will learn to give Larla a few mins to see if her tummy ache goes away before sending to nurse.

You have never been a teacher in public school. Ask Larla to wait 10 min to go to the nurse and her mom will email the principal that you are guilty of child abuse.

Well then all MCPs’ policy does then is force parents to tell their kids not to mention anything unless it’s really really bad. Not good.

Just come up with a code symptom to use. If they need to come home, they'll always say it's an ear ache.

That would mean the kid comes home. The parents want the kid to stay at school. Maybe they can’t miss work. Or this is the hill they want us all to die on.

What did you do when your kid was in daycare? There are strict protocols for fevers and other symptoms that require kids to be picked up and kept home. It always confused me how kids were no longer required to be fever free for 24 hours before returning to school once they hit kindergarten. Instead of requesting policy changes that put kids (and the greater community) at risk why not rally to change family leave policies for the working class?

The debate is not about your kid quarantining when symptomatic. It is about all kids quarantining when one kid has a symptom which will likely mean many fewer in person days. Also I thought we vaccinated adults so the greater community was not at risk. And while more leave for the working class would be great, having kids doing zoom school for extended periods is problematic for many families of all social classes including MC and UMC families with in person jobs or telework jobs that actually require them to get work done. Not everyone’s telework job is just checking email once an hour to make it look like you are doing something or attending zoom meetings on your phone on mute while someone else leads it.

That’s the problem. One kid presents a single symptom, and the whole class goes home. Nobody in the country is doing this. It’s like Gayles wanted to one up one of his Gayles Fails out of spite.

Sounds like public health 101 protocol. Glad to see were following best practices.

Are you a troll or just dumb?

Neither. I just love seeing you mad.

Trolling 101.

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Anonymous wrote:The VA parents are hoping in person fails to justify their choice. Don’t fall for their click bait. It will be fine. A little messy for another month but they everyone will hit their stride and even if the stupid policy stands individual teachers will learn to give Larla a few mins to see if her tummy ache goes away before sending to nurse.

You have never been a teacher in public school. Ask Larla to wait 10 min to go to the nurse and her mom will email the principal that you are guilty of child abuse.

Well then all MCPs’ policy does then is force parents to tell their kids not to mention anything unless it’s really really bad. Not good.

Just come up with a code symptom to use. If they need to come home, they'll always say it's an ear ache.

That would mean the kid comes home. The parents want the kid to stay at school. Maybe they can’t miss work. Or this is the hill they want us all to die on.

What did you do when your kid was in daycare? There are strict protocols for fevers and other symptoms that require kids to be picked up and kept home. It always confused me how kids were no longer required to be fever free for 24 hours before returning to school once they hit kindergarten. Instead of requesting policy changes that put kids (and the greater community) at risk why not rally to change family leave policies for the working class?

The debate is not about your kid quarantining when symptomatic. It is about all kids quarantining when one kid has a symptom which will likely mean many fewer in person days. Also I thought we vaccinated adults so the greater community was not at risk. And while more leave for the working class would be great, having kids doing zoom school for extended periods is problematic for many families of all social classes including MC and UMC families with in person jobs or telework jobs that actually require them to get work done. Not everyone’s telework job is just checking email once an hour to make it look like you are doing something or attending zoom meetings on your phone on mute while someone else leads it.

That’s the problem. One kid presents a single symptom, and the whole class goes home. Nobody in the country is doing this. It’s like Gayles wanted to one up one of his Gayles Fails out of spite.

Sounds like public health 101 protocol. Glad to see were following best practices.

Are you a troll or just dumb?

Neither. I just love seeing you mad.

Trolling 101.

So the answer is apparently 'troll'.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

We do get it, dingus. Every masked kid in the classroom is assumed to be within 1-2 feet of the offending student for over 15 minutes? How are they managing that magic trick?

15 minutes total in a 24 hour period. So they are 1-2ft for 5 minutes on the reading carpet, 5 minutes 4ft apart while eating lunch, 5 min. outside during recess while on the playground, 5 minutes working at a classroom center. That right there is 20 minutes of close contact.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

We do get it, dingus. Every masked kid in the classroom is assumed to be within 1-2 feet of the offending student for over 15 minutes? How are they managing that magic trick?

15 minutes total in a 24 hour period. So they are 1-2ft for 5 minutes on the reading carpet, 5 minutes 4ft apart while eating lunch, 5 min. outside during recess while on the playground, 5 minutes working at a classroom center. That right there is 20 minutes of close contact.

That is a tortured, and I mean tortured, interpretation. BTW, the CDC guidance also says within three feet of an infected student, not somebody who accidentally sh#t their pants. I wouldn't be surprised if you were in the Health Dept or MCPS leadership based on this idiotic reasoning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

We do get it, dingus. Every masked kid in the classroom is assumed to be within 1-2 feet of the offending student for over 15 minutes? How are they managing that magic trick?

15 minutes total in a 24 hour period. So they are 1-2ft for 5 minutes on the reading carpet, 5 minutes 4ft apart while eating lunch, 5 min. outside during recess while on the playground, 5 minutes working at a classroom center. That right there is 20 minutes of close contact.

How does an entire classroom occupy that small amount of physical space during reading carpet and lunch? And what grade does reading carpet end? Try again. Do better this time.

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The parents in this county are seriously ridiculous. I’m a parent of an MCPS student as well as a teacher….all of your hysterics are solely on you. Kids don’t care about masks, they are better than the adults… no kid is stressed about going to the nurse “in fear” of sending their classmates home (nice try, smelkinson… the biggest “scientific”-fear mongerer of them all)… calm the f down

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

We do get it, dingus. Every masked kid in the classroom is assumed to be within 1-2 feet of the offending student for over 15 minutes? How are they managing that magic trick?

15 minutes total in a 24 hour period. So they are 1-2ft for 5 minutes on the reading carpet, 5 minutes 4ft apart while eating lunch, 5 min. outside during recess while on the playground, 5 minutes working at a classroom center. That right there is 20 minutes of close contact.

That is a tortured, and I mean tortured, interpretation. BTW, the CDC guidance also says within three feet of an infected student, not somebody who accidentally sh#t their pants. I wouldn't be surprised if you were in the Health Dept or MCPS leadership based on this idiotic reasoning.

That is the actual definition... "Close Contact through Proximity and Duration of Exposure: Someone who was within 6 feet of an infected person (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness0) for a cumulative total of 15 minutes or more over a 24-hour period

Have you ever been in an elementary classroom or a high school hallway? Just go on Twitter and see how close kids are while entering the building, walking between classes, during class, on the bus, etc. I can show you dozens of pictures of kids less than 3 ft during the school day.

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Anonymous wrote:The parents in this county are seriously ridiculous. I’m a parent of an MCPS student as well as a teacher….all of your hysterics are solely on you. Kids don’t care about masks, they are better than the adults… no kid is stressed about going to the nurse “in fear” of sending their classmates home (nice try, smelkinson… the biggest “scientific”-fear mongerer of them all)… calm the f down

The kid is not worried about who is going to watch him for the next 10 days or how much learning he will miss.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

CDC say in K-12 school guidance that close contacts are those in close contact with someone who has a positive COVID test--not someone with a COVID symptom. "This allows identifying which students, teachers, and staff with positive COVID-19 test results should isolate, and which close contacts should quarantine." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/k-12-guidance.html#contact-tracing (see section 8, Contact Tracing in Combination with Isolation and Quarantine)

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Anonymous wrote:Right here in the definition of close contact

Close Contact through Proximity and Duration of Exposure: Someone who was within 6 feet of an infected person (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness)

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html

Exactly - an infected person, not someone who displays a symptom of infection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

CDC say in K-12 school guidance that close contacts are those in close contact with someone who has a positive COVID test--not someone with a COVID symptom. "This allows identifying which students, teachers, and staff with positive COVID-19 test results should isolate, and which close contacts should quarantine." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/k-12-guidance.html#contact-tracing (see section 8, Contact Tracing in Combination with Isolation and Quarantine)

Except they also recommend regular testing and MCPS isn't doing that.

As schools go back to in-person learning, many offer free, regular COVID-19 testing for students and staff.
Regular testing, along with COVID-19 vaccination, helps protect students, staff, family members, and others who are not currently vaccinated against COVID-19 or are otherwise at risk for getting seriously sick from COVID-19.
Testing programs help keep students in the classroom and allow them to take part in the other activities they love.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

We do get it, dingus. Every masked kid in the classroom is assumed to be within 1-2 feet of the offending student for over 15 minutes? How are they managing that magic trick?

15 minutes total in a 24 hour period. So they are 1-2ft for 5 minutes on the reading carpet, 5 minutes 4ft apart while eating lunch, 5 min. outside during recess while on the playground, 5 minutes working at a classroom center. That right there is 20 minutes of close contact.

How does an entire classroom occupy that small amount of physical space during reading carpet and lunch? And what grade does reading carpet end? Try again. Do better this time.

Because you have 25+ kids in a 30x30 size room genius. And ES puts desks of 4 in a group. Reading circle is in primary, but centers, group work, collaborative project assignments are K-12. Tell me you've never been inside a school without telling me you've never been inside a school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Right here in the definition of close contact

Close Contact through Proximity and Duration of Exposure: Someone who was within 6 feet of an infected person (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness)

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html

Exactly - an infected person, not someone who displays a symptom of infection.

Reality is these kids are intermixing and its impossible to know who has been in 6 feet or not so what other option do they have.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parents in this county are seriously ridiculous. I’m a parent of an MCPS student as well as a teacher….all of your hysterics are solely on you. Kids don’t care about masks, they are better than the adults… no kid is stressed about going to the nurse “in fear” of sending their classmates home (nice try, smelkinson… the biggest “scientific”-fear mongerer of them all)… calm the f down

The kid is not worried about who is going to watch him for the next 10 days or how much learning he will miss.

If you don't want your kid to get covid, consider your behavior and how it might impact others. Others deal with your child getting a bonus 10 day vacation from school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who says this isn't following CDC guidelines can't read, chooses not to read, or doesn't understand what they are reading.
Close contact is with anyone positive for Covid (confirmed test result) OR clinically compatible (aka having a Covid SYMPTOM).
The CDC exemption for the classroom ONLY exempts students if they are 3, 4, 5, 6 feet apart AND wearing a mask. If students are 1 foot or 2 feet apart, that is close contact even if wearing a mask. Lunch and recess is still 6 feet. It's so annoying that the loudest voices are the ones who don't understand the rules.
That said, DHHS needs to implement rapid tests for school nurses and techs to give so right away a school can know if a student with
symptoms is positive. DHHS needs to lead this work as the health experts. MCPS doesn't make health decisions, they make educational ones.

We do get it, dingus. Every masked kid in the classroom is assumed to be within 1-2 feet of the offending student for over 15 minutes? How are they managing that magic trick?

15 minutes total in a 24 hour period. So they are 1-2ft for 5 minutes on the reading carpet, 5 minutes 4ft apart while eating lunch, 5 min. outside during recess while on the playground, 5 minutes working at a classroom center. That right there is 20 minutes of close contact.

That is a tortured, and I mean tortured, interpretation. BTW, the CDC guidance also says within three feet of an infected student, not somebody who accidentally sh#t their pants. I wouldn't be surprised if you were in the Health Dept or MCPS leadership based on this idiotic reasoning.

That is the actual definition... "Close Contact through Proximity and Duration of Exposure: Someone who was within 6 feet of an infected person (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness0) for a cumulative total of 15 minutes or more over a 24-hour period

Have you ever been in an elementary classroom or a high school hallway? Just go on Twitter and see how close kids are while entering the building, walking between classes, during class, on the bus, etc. I can show you dozens of pictures of kids less than 3 ft during the school day.

Of an infected person, of course. That's part of the definition as well, no?

Your scenario is ridiculous BTW. I'd love to see MCPS try to sell parents on it.