APS VA Snow Day Projection

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reports of kids falling. 😂

They will get up and move on. They might have a bruise. They will have learned something about how to navigate snow and ice. Take off the bubble wrap and back away.

Except when they get a concussion or break a leg. But you don’t care.

To be clear, has this happened anywhere?

What is wrong with you people.

Are you really this clueless? Of course it has happened. Good lord!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reports of kids falling. 😂

They will get up and move on. They might have a bruise. They will have learned something about how to navigate snow and ice. Take off the bubble wrap and back away.

Except when they get a concussion or break a leg. But you don’t care.

To be clear, has this happened anywhere?

What is wrong with you people.

It does happen. It happened to my teen a couple of years ago (we weren’t in Arlington at the time). He is a big kid, so the idea that all kids are low to the ground doesn’t track in our case, but he managed to break his arm. Not sure why you’re so resistant to the reality that people (including kids) can slip and get injured on the ice. I entirely support going back to school but I will push back insistently against the contention that kids aren’t at risk of falling and getting hurt on icy pathways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reports of kids falling. 😂

They will get up and move on. They might have a bruise. They will have learned something about how to navigate snow and ice. Take off the bubble wrap and back away.

Except when they get a concussion or break a leg. But you don’t care.

To be clear, has this happened anywhere?

What is wrong with you people.

Are you really this clueless? Of course it has happened. Good lord!

Has it happened following this snow event to children here?

Everything that can befall a human has happened at some point to someone. We all know that. Some of us just aren't making our daily decisions based on this. It's called risk assessment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reports of kids falling. 😂

They will get up and move on. They might have a bruise. They will have learned something about how to navigate snow and ice. Take off the bubble wrap and back away.

Except when they get a concussion or break a leg. But you don’t care.

To be clear, has this happened anywhere?

What is wrong with you people.

It does happen. It happened to my teen a couple of years ago (we weren’t in Arlington at the time). He is a big kid, so the idea that all kids are low to the ground doesn’t track in our case, but he managed to break his arm. Not sure why you’re so resistant to the reality that people (including kids) can slip and get injured on the ice. I entirely support going back to school but I will push back insistently against the contention that kids aren’t at risk of falling and getting hurt on icy pathways.

I don't think anyone is saying that it doesn't happen to people at times. We all get it. The question at hand is weighing the risks and do you make decisions for the collective good (opening school in this environment) when there is a small risk to the few (broken bones and concussions in children slipping on ice). Most people, including all the school administrators and parents in the entire DMV region, seem to think the small risk is okay to take because children need to be in school. Some of you don't agree. What I don't understand is why those of you don't agree can't just make the decision for your own kid to stay home or be carried door to door and leave the rest of us out of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reports of kids falling. 😂

They will get up and move on. They might have a bruise. They will have learned something about how to navigate snow and ice. Take off the bubble wrap and back away.

Except when they get a concussion or break a leg. But you don’t care.

To be clear, has this happened anywhere?

What is wrong with you people.

Are you really this clueless? Of course it has happened. Good lord!

Has it happened following this snow event to children here?

Everything that can befall a human has happened at some point to someone. We all know that. Some of us just aren't making our daily decisions based on this. It's called risk assessment.

To think something isn't a problem worth trying to fix until it happens, again, in this community, during this moment in time is....odd to me.

To summarize: Nobody is saying schools should be closed. Many (including myself) are frustrated the county hasn't cleared its own sidewalks and appears to be doing nothing about that, not even putting out salt to help the ice melt. Some think we are overreacting and it is fine for children to walk a block or more, on a hill, on ice over a foot think (thanks to plows that pushed the snowcrete onto sidewalks) where the only place to fall is a busy street. Apparently there are different views on the risks of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reports of kids falling. 😂

They will get up and move on. They might have a bruise. They will have learned something about how to navigate snow and ice. Take off the bubble wrap and back away.

Except when they get a concussion or break a leg. But you don’t care.

To be clear, has this happened anywhere?

What is wrong with you people.

Are you really this clueless? Of course it has happened. Good lord!

Has it happened following this snow event to children here?

Everything that can befall a human has happened at some point to someone. We all know that. Some of us just aren't making our daily decisions based on this. It's called risk assessment.

To think something isn't a problem worth trying to fix until it happens, again, in this community, during this moment in time is....odd to me.

To summarize: Nobody is saying schools should be closed. Many (including myself) are frustrated the county hasn't cleared its own sidewalks and appears to be doing nothing about that, not even putting out salt to help the ice melt. Some think we are overreacting and it is fine for children to walk a block or more, on a hill, on ice over a foot think (thanks to plows that pushed the snowcrete onto sidewalks) where the only place to fall is a busy street. Apparently there are different views on the risks of that.

There are definitely people on this thread who think there should still be delayed starts every morning during all this.

I think it's risk and also we live in an imperfect world what is next. I don't think the scenario you are describing is okay which is why I walked her regular route myself last week and I told my kid to find an alternate route (she described it to me), which is longer, and she had to leave 5 minutes earlier today and this is middle school so it's early. I am sure some schools, this is not possible. If my kid did not have a different route to take, I'd be driving her every day. And also on her nearly mile long walk, I am certain she is walking on some icy spots and over some snow banks and walking in the road at times. I made sure she wore good shoes, she's walking with a friend, and I told her to call me if she had a problem. She is fine. Lots of problem solving and if she falls it won't feel good.

I do get everything you are saying and take it up with the County Board. However, be prepared to tell them why they should spend money on this and what they should STOP doing to spend money on this. Be specific. There are a million things that are important to someone and only so much money to go around. There are so many choices daily that any community makes where they tolerate some level of risk or make tradeoffs. You find it intolerable or weird that others are fine to tolerate this.

[Anonymous]

One of the biggest causes of broken arms in kids is monkey bars, yet we have these on elementary playgrounds.

One of the biggest causes of death in kids is car accidents, yet kids ride in cars every day.

I know a kid who broke his leg tripping over the curb, yet we still have curbs.

You can't live your life with zero risk or based on anecdotes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of the biggest causes of broken arms in kids is monkey bars, yet we have these on elementary playgrounds.

One of the biggest causes of death in kids is car accidents, yet kids ride in cars every day.

I know a kid who broke his leg tripping over the curb, yet we still have curbs.

You can't live your life with zero risk or based on anecdotes.

Nobody is talking about zero risks. Reading comprehension on DCUM. SMH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reports of kids falling. 😂

They will get up and move on. They might have a bruise. They will have learned something about how to navigate snow and ice. Take off the bubble wrap and back away.

Except when they get a concussion or break a leg. But you don’t care.

To be clear, has this happened anywhere?

What is wrong with you people.

Are you really this clueless? Of course it has happened. Good lord!

Has it happened following this snow event to children here?

Everything that can befall a human has happened at some point to someone. We all know that. Some of us just aren't making our daily decisions based on this. It's called risk assessment.

To think something isn't a problem worth trying to fix until it happens, again, in this community, during this moment in time is....odd to me.

To summarize: Nobody is saying schools should be closed. Many (including myself) are frustrated the county hasn't cleared its own sidewalks and appears to be doing nothing about that, not even putting out salt to help the ice melt. Some think we are overreacting and it is fine for children to walk a block or more, on a hill, on ice over a foot think (thanks to plows that pushed the snowcrete onto sidewalks) where the only place to fall is a busy street. Apparently there are different views on the risks of that.

There are definitely people on this thread who think there should still be delayed starts every morning during all this.

I think it's risk and also we live in an imperfect world what is next. I don't think the scenario you are describing is okay which is why I walked her regular route myself last week and I told my kid to find an alternate route (she described it to me), which is longer, and she had to leave 5 minutes earlier today and this is middle school so it's early. I am sure some schools, this is not possible. If my kid did not have a different route to take, I'd be driving her every day. And also on her nearly mile long walk, I am certain she is walking on some icy spots and over some snow banks and walking in the road at times. I made sure she wore good shoes, she's walking with a friend, and I told her to call me if she had a problem. She is fine. Lots of problem solving and if she falls it won't feel good.

I do get everything you are saying and take it up with the County Board. However, be prepared to tell them why they should spend money on this and what they should STOP doing to spend money on this. Be specific. There are a million things that are important to someone and only so much money to go around. There are so many choices daily that any community makes where they tolerate some level of risk or make tradeoffs. You find it intolerable or weird that others are fine to tolerate this.

I guess I've missed the posts where people think schools should be closed, but I've been following this for quite a while.

I think some schools and surrounding areas have been cleared more than others, that people in the better cleared areas cannot comprehend anything else, and these people therefore assume those of us in areas where there are real, significant risks are babying our kids by saying the county should clear their own sidewalks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the biggest causes of broken arms in kids is monkey bars, yet we have these on elementary playgrounds.

One of the biggest causes of death in kids is car accidents, yet kids ride in cars every day.

I know a kid who broke his leg tripping over the curb, yet we still have curbs.

You can't live your life with zero risk or based on anecdotes.

Nobody is talking about zero risks. Reading comprehension on DCUM. SMH

Have you read the thread? There is zero data of a significant risk. We're in a land of hyperbole and anecdotes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the biggest causes of broken arms in kids is monkey bars, yet we have these on elementary playgrounds.

One of the biggest causes of death in kids is car accidents, yet kids ride in cars every day.

I know a kid who broke his leg tripping over the curb, yet we still have curbs.

You can't live your life with zero risk or based on anecdotes.

Nobody is talking about zero risks. Reading comprehension on DCUM. SMH

You're not talking about zero risks but some of you are definitely saying an objectively low level of risk is not acceptable. We are on day 3 of the kids traversing in this and pretty sure we've had no tragedies. I would hate to see one, of course. We all would. And yet most reasonable and well-intentioned people seem to think a tragedy won't happen. If you don't agree, make different choices for yourself and your kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reports of kids falling. 😂

They will get up and move on. They might have a bruise. They will have learned something about how to navigate snow and ice. Take off the bubble wrap and back away.

Except when they get a concussion or break a leg. But you don’t care.

To be clear, has this happened anywhere?

What is wrong with you people.

Are you really this clueless? Of course it has happened. Good lord!

Has it happened following this snow event to children here?

Everything that can befall a human has happened at some point to someone. We all know that. Some of us just aren't making our daily decisions based on this. It's called risk assessment.

To think something isn't a problem worth trying to fix until it happens, again, in this community, during this moment in time is....odd to me.

To summarize: Nobody is saying schools should be closed. Many (including myself) are frustrated the county hasn't cleared its own sidewalks and appears to be doing nothing about that, not even putting out salt to help the ice melt. Some think we are overreacting and it is fine for children to walk a block or more, on a hill, on ice over a foot think (thanks to plows that pushed the snowcrete onto sidewalks) where the only place to fall is a busy street. Apparently there are different views on the risks of that.

There are definitely people on this thread who think there should still be delayed starts every morning during all this.

I think it's risk and also we live in an imperfect world what is next. I don't think the scenario you are describing is okay which is why I walked her regular route myself last week and I told my kid to find an alternate route (she described it to me), which is longer, and she had to leave 5 minutes earlier today and this is middle school so it's early. I am sure some schools, this is not possible. If my kid did not have a different route to take, I'd be driving her every day. And also on her nearly mile long walk, I am certain she is walking on some icy spots and over some snow banks and walking in the road at times. I made sure she wore good shoes, she's walking with a friend, and I told her to call me if she had a problem. She is fine. Lots of problem solving and if she falls it won't feel good.

I do get everything you are saying and take it up with the County Board. However, be prepared to tell them why they should spend money on this and what they should STOP doing to spend money on this. Be specific. There are a million things that are important to someone and only so much money to go around. There are so many choices daily that any community makes where they tolerate some level of risk or make tradeoffs. You find it intolerable or weird that others are fine to tolerate this.

I guess I've missed the posts where people think schools should be closed, but I've been following this for quite a while.

I think some schools and surrounding areas have been cleared more than others, that people in the better cleared areas cannot comprehend anything else, and these people therefore assume those of us in areas where there are real, significant risks are babying our kids by saying the county should clear their own sidewalks.

This was posted yesterday at 6:43pm. As I said above, people have been advocating for delays the whole week. FCPS and LCPS have delays the whole week.

Anonymous wrote:
So you want schools to remain closed? Is that really your position?


No, but a delay would be wise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reports of kids falling. 😂

They will get up and move on. They might have a bruise. They will have learned something about how to navigate snow and ice. Take off the bubble wrap and back away.

Except when they get a concussion or break a leg. But you don’t care.

To be clear, has this happened anywhere?

What is wrong with you people.

Are you really this clueless? Of course it has happened. Good lord!

Has it happened following this snow event to children here?

Everything that can befall a human has happened at some point to someone. We all know that. Some of us just aren't making our daily decisions based on this. It's called risk assessment.

To think something isn't a problem worth trying to fix until it happens, again, in this community, during this moment in time is....odd to me.

To summarize: Nobody is saying schools should be closed. Many (including myself) are frustrated the county hasn't cleared its own sidewalks and appears to be doing nothing about that, not even putting out salt to help the ice melt. Some think we are overreacting and it is fine for children to walk a block or more, on a hill, on ice over a foot think (thanks to plows that pushed the snowcrete onto sidewalks) where the only place to fall is a busy street. Apparently there are different views on the risks of that.

There are definitely people on this thread who think there should still be delayed starts every morning during all this.

I think it's risk and also we live in an imperfect world what is next. I don't think the scenario you are describing is okay which is why I walked her regular route myself last week and I told my kid to find an alternate route (she described it to me), which is longer, and she had to leave 5 minutes earlier today and this is middle school so it's early. I am sure some schools, this is not possible. If my kid did not have a different route to take, I'd be driving her every day. And also on her nearly mile long walk, I am certain she is walking on some icy spots and over some snow banks and walking in the road at times. I made sure she wore good shoes, she's walking with a friend, and I told her to call me if she had a problem. She is fine. Lots of problem solving and if she falls it won't feel good.

I do get everything you are saying and take it up with the County Board. However, be prepared to tell them why they should spend money on this and what they should STOP doing to spend money on this. Be specific. There are a million things that are important to someone and only so much money to go around. There are so many choices daily that any community makes where they tolerate some level of risk or make tradeoffs. You find it intolerable or weird that others are fine to tolerate this.

I guess I've missed the posts where people think schools should be closed, but I've been following this for quite a while.

I think some schools and surrounding areas have been cleared more than others, that people in the better cleared areas cannot comprehend anything else, and these people therefore assume those of us in areas where there are real, significant risks are babying our kids by saying the county should clear their own sidewalks.

Where are the better cleared areas? I saw this low-level N Arlington diss at some point in recent days. Langston Blvd and Wash Blvd are a mess. Both main walkways for kids for multiple schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reports of kids falling. 😂

They will get up and move on. They might have a bruise. They will have learned something about how to navigate snow and ice. Take off the bubble wrap and back away.

Except when they get a concussion or break a leg. But you don’t care.

To be clear, has this happened anywhere?

What is wrong with you people.

Are you really this clueless? Of course it has happened. Good lord!

Has it happened following this snow event to children here?

Everything that can befall a human has happened at some point to someone. We all know that. Some of us just aren't making our daily decisions based on this. It's called risk assessment.

To think something isn't a problem worth trying to fix until it happens, again, in this community, during this moment in time is....odd to me.

To summarize: Nobody is saying schools should be closed. Many (including myself) are frustrated the county hasn't cleared its own sidewalks and appears to be doing nothing about that, not even putting out salt to help the ice melt. Some think we are overreacting and it is fine for children to walk a block or more, on a hill, on ice over a foot think (thanks to plows that pushed the snowcrete onto sidewalks) where the only place to fall is a busy street. Apparently there are different views on the risks of that.

There are definitely people on this thread who think there should still be delayed starts every morning during all this.

I think it's risk and also we live in an imperfect world what is next. I don't think the scenario you are describing is okay which is why I walked her regular route myself last week and I told my kid to find an alternate route (she described it to me), which is longer, and she had to leave 5 minutes earlier today and this is middle school so it's early. I am sure some schools, this is not possible. If my kid did not have a different route to take, I'd be driving her every day. And also on her nearly mile long walk, I am certain she is walking on some icy spots and over some snow banks and walking in the road at times. I made sure she wore good shoes, she's walking with a friend, and I told her to call me if she had a problem. She is fine. Lots of problem solving and if she falls it won't feel good.

I do get everything you are saying and take it up with the County Board. However, be prepared to tell them why they should spend money on this and what they should STOP doing to spend money on this. Be specific. There are a million things that are important to someone and only so much money to go around. There are so many choices daily that any community makes where they tolerate some level of risk or make tradeoffs. You find it intolerable or weird that others are fine to tolerate this.

I guess I've missed the posts where people think schools should be closed, but I've been following this for quite a while.

I think some schools and surrounding areas have been cleared more than others, that people in the better cleared areas cannot comprehend anything else, and these people therefore assume those of us in areas where there are real, significant risks are babying our kids by saying the county should clear their own sidewalks.

Where are the better cleared areas? I saw this low-level N Arlington diss at some point in recent days. Langston Blvd and Wash Blvd are a mess. Both main walkways for kids for multiple schools.

Also both these roads have stretches where a kid could be walking on an uncleared sidewalk or climbing over mounds of snow and is right next to rushing traffic or would need to step directly into a traffic lane with busy traffic to get around an obstacle. Many people are dealing with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reports of kids falling. 😂

They will get up and move on. They might have a bruise. They will have learned something about how to navigate snow and ice. Take off the bubble wrap and back away.

Except when they get a concussion or break a leg. But you don’t care.

To be clear, has this happened anywhere?

What is wrong with you people.

Are you really this clueless? Of course it has happened. Good lord!

Has it happened following this snow event to children here?

Everything that can befall a human has happened at some point to someone. We all know that. Some of us just aren't making our daily decisions based on this. It's called risk assessment.

To think something isn't a problem worth trying to fix until it happens, again, in this community, during this moment in time is....odd to me.

To summarize: Nobody is saying schools should be closed. Many (including myself) are frustrated the county hasn't cleared its own sidewalks and appears to be doing nothing about that, not even putting out salt to help the ice melt. Some think we are overreacting and it is fine for children to walk a block or more, on a hill, on ice over a foot think (thanks to plows that pushed the snowcrete onto sidewalks) where the only place to fall is a busy street. Apparently there are different views on the risks of that.

There are definitely people on this thread who think there should still be delayed starts every morning during all this.

I think it's risk and also we live in an imperfect world what is next. I don't think the scenario you are describing is okay which is why I walked her regular route myself last week and I told my kid to find an alternate route (she described it to me), which is longer, and she had to leave 5 minutes earlier today and this is middle school so it's early. I am sure some schools, this is not possible. If my kid did not have a different route to take, I'd be driving her every day. And also on her nearly mile long walk, I am certain she is walking on some icy spots and over some snow banks and walking in the road at times. I made sure she wore good shoes, she's walking with a friend, and I told her to call me if she had a problem. She is fine. Lots of problem solving and if she falls it won't feel good.

I do get everything you are saying and take it up with the County Board. However, be prepared to tell them why they should spend money on this and what they should STOP doing to spend money on this. Be specific. There are a million things that are important to someone and only so much money to go around. There are so many choices daily that any community makes where they tolerate some level of risk or make tradeoffs. You find it intolerable or weird that others are fine to tolerate this.

I guess I've missed the posts where people think schools should be closed, but I've been following this for quite a while.

I think some schools and surrounding areas have been cleared more than others, that people in the better cleared areas cannot comprehend anything else, and these people therefore assume those of us in areas where there are real, significant risks are babying our kids by saying the county should clear their own sidewalks.

Where are the better cleared areas? I saw this low-level N Arlington diss at some point in recent days. Langston Blvd and Wash Blvd are a mess. Both main walkways for kids for multiple schools.

Also both these roads have stretches where a kid could be walking on an uncleared sidewalk or climbing over mounds of snow and is right next to rushing traffic or would need to step directly into a traffic lane with busy traffic to get around an obstacle. Many people are dealing with this.

I think this is a problem too. Some people here seem to think this means we are helicopter parents.