FCPS Boundary Review - New Maps

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The mommies are fighting about the trailers on West Springfield Moms on FB and a former SB member cheered a feel good bland post supporting changing WS’s boundaries due to the trailers coming back (but of course, HER kids won’t be affected so it’s ok).

Which former School Board member?

Did they stick some trailers at West Springfield as props to support a boundary change? Wouldn't put it past them.

Yes, two trailers/four classrooms. And doing a couple classes before school to get them in (zero period).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been brought up, but West Springfield HS has trailers installed this year for the first time since the renovation was completed. I was not expecting that, because even though the CIP numbers say the school is overcrowded, my student's class numbers have been reasonable, cafeteria isn't crowded, etc.

It did strike me to wonder how having classes in trailers will impact community support of boundary changes. I feel like most of the discussion has been to just leave the boundary as is, from both those with potential to change and those without, but maybe adding trailers will change that vibe?

2 trailers (4 total rooms) is no big deal and what people want to get over this temporary peak until class of 2026 graduates. Once 2026 graduates, enrollment will start shrinking, gradually at first, then more noticeably.

Using trailers as a temporary solution is the best option over rezoning.

I'm not so sure WSHS's numbers are a temporary peak. What makes you think that? I looked at the Irving numbers and they seem to point to 650-700 in each high school class for the foreseeable future. And aren't our elementary schools over capacity as well?

Exactly. Daventry neighborhoods need to be sent back to Lewis. And all of Hunt Valley should be sent to Lewis. That would give you 700+ free seats at WSHS. Problem solved.

This is happening. For sure. And makes the most sense. They could shift only part of HVES to Lewis though, and that gives room for Orange Hunt kids to move to Hunt Valley.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The mommies are fighting about the trailers on West Springfield Moms on FB and a former SB member cheered a feel good bland post supporting changing WS’s boundaries due to the trailers coming back (but of course, HER kids won’t be affected so it’s ok).

Which former School Board member?

Did they stick some trailers at West Springfield as props to support a boundary change? Wouldn't put it past them.

Yes, two trailers/four classrooms. And doing a couple classes before school to get them in (zero period).

AP Chemistry is before school because there was a teacher conflict. Nothing to do with space.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been brought up, but West Springfield HS has trailers installed this year for the first time since the renovation was completed. I was not expecting that, because even though the CIP numbers say the school is overcrowded, my student's class numbers have been reasonable, cafeteria isn't crowded, etc.

It did strike me to wonder how having classes in trailers will impact community support of boundary changes. I feel like most of the discussion has been to just leave the boundary as is, from both those with potential to change and those without, but maybe adding trailers will change that vibe?

2 trailers (4 total rooms) is no big deal and what people want to get over this temporary peak until class of 2026 graduates. Once 2026 graduates, enrollment will start shrinking, gradually at first, then more noticeably.

Using trailers as a temporary solution is the best option over rezoning.

I'm not so sure WSHS's numbers are a temporary peak. What makes you think that? I looked at the Irving numbers and they seem to point to 650-700 in each high school class for the foreseeable future. And aren't our elementary schools over capacity as well?

Exactly. Daventry neighborhoods need to be sent back to Lewis. And all of Hunt Valley should be sent to Lewis. That would give you 700+ free seats at WSHS. Problem solved.

This is happening. For sure. And makes the most sense. They could shift only part of HVES to Lewis though, and that gives room for Orange Hunt kids to move to Hunt Valley.

But then you create a split feeder. Better to send the entire school to Lewis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been brought up, but West Springfield HS has trailers installed this year for the first time since the renovation was completed. I was not expecting that, because even though the CIP numbers say the school is overcrowded, my student's class numbers have been reasonable, cafeteria isn't crowded, etc.

It did strike me to wonder how having classes in trailers will impact community support of boundary changes. I feel like most of the discussion has been to just leave the boundary as is, from both those with potential to change and those without, but maybe adding trailers will change that vibe?

2 trailers (4 total rooms) is no big deal and what people want to get over this temporary peak until class of 2026 graduates. Once 2026 graduates, enrollment will start shrinking, gradually at first, then more noticeably.

Using trailers as a temporary solution is the best option over rezoning.

I'm not so sure WSHS's numbers are a temporary peak. What makes you think that? I looked at the Irving numbers and they seem to point to 650-700 in each high school class for the foreseeable future. And aren't our elementary schools over capacity as well?

Exactly. Daventry neighborhoods need to be sent back to Lewis. And all of Hunt Valley should be sent to Lewis. That would give you 700+ free seats at WSHS. Problem solved.

This is happening. For sure. And makes the most sense. They could shift only part of HVES to Lewis though, and that gives room for Orange Hunt kids to move to Hunt Valley.

700 student to Lewis would put Lewis signficantly over capacity.

Hunt Valley is the farthest WSHS neighborhood from Lewis, except for the Sangster neighborhood along Reservation.

Moving Hunt Valley outside the Parkway to SoCo makes sense. Moving any of Hunt Valley to Lewis is nonsense.

What makes sense for WSHS involves a couple of neighborhoods from a few different schools:

1) Move Daventry back to Lewis.

2) Keep Rolling Valley outside the Parkway at Lewis.

3) Move the Keene Mill neighborhood along Tiverton next to St. Bernadette to Lewis.

4) Send all of Sangster, the neighborhoods on Gamelord through Reservation to Lake Braddock, so Sangster is no longer a split feeder.

5) Send that last Hunt Valley neighborhood at the end of Gambril to Silverbrook/South County.

In that area, but not WSHS related:

Keep the Sangster neighborhood along the Parkway behind that big Catholic church at Sangster /Lake Braddock instead of sending them to Newington/SoCo

AND

Keep the Silverbrook/South County neighborhood that Thru is randomly sending to Sangster/Lake Braddock at their neighborhood schools, Silverbrook/SoCo. Sending any teen drivers on that death trap section of Lee Chappel each day is just idiotic and dangerous.

Flipping two tiny neighborhoods to farther away schools just for the sake of rezoning is stupid and disruptive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been brought up, but West Springfield HS has trailers installed this year for the first time since the renovation was completed. I was not expecting that, because even though the CIP numbers say the school is overcrowded, my student's class numbers have been reasonable, cafeteria isn't crowded, etc.

It did strike me to wonder how having classes in trailers will impact community support of boundary changes. I feel like most of the discussion has been to just leave the boundary as is, from both those with potential to change and those without, but maybe adding trailers will change that vibe?

2 trailers (4 total rooms) is no big deal and what people want to get over this temporary peak until class of 2026 graduates. Once 2026 graduates, enrollment will start shrinking, gradually at first, then more noticeably.

Using trailers as a temporary solution is the best option over rezoning.

I'm not so sure WSHS's numbers are a temporary peak. What makes you think that? I looked at the Irving numbers and they seem to point to 650-700 in each high school class for the foreseeable future. And aren't our elementary schools over capacity as well?

Exactly. Daventry neighborhoods need to be sent back to Lewis. And all of Hunt Valley should be sent to Lewis. That would give you 700+ free seats at WSHS. Problem solved.

This is happening. For sure. And makes the most sense. They could shift only part of HVES to Lewis though, and that gives room for Orange Hunt kids to move to Hunt Valley.

700 student to Lewis would put Lewis signficantly over capacity.

Hunt Valley is the farthest WSHS neighborhood from Lewis, except for the Sangster neighborhood along Reservation.

Moving Hunt Valley outside the Parkway to SoCo makes sense. Moving any of Hunt Valley to Lewis is nonsense.

What makes sense for WSHS involves a couple of neighborhoods from a few different schools:

1) Move Daventry back to Lewis.

2) Keep Rolling Valley outside the Parkway at Lewis.

3) Move the Keene Mill neighborhood along Tiverton next to St. Bernadette to Lewis.

4) Send all of Sangster, the neighborhoods on Gamelord through Reservation to Lake Braddock, so Sangster is no longer a split feeder.

5) Send that last Hunt Valley neighborhood at the end of Gambril to Silverbrook/South County.

In that area, but not WSHS related:

Keep the Sangster neighborhood along the Parkway behind that big Catholic church at Sangster /Lake Braddock instead of sending them to Newington/SoCo

AND

Keep the Silverbrook/South County neighborhood that Thru is randomly sending to Sangster/Lake Braddock at their neighborhood schools, Silverbrook/SoCo. Sending any teen drivers on that death trap section of Lee Chappel each day is just idiotic and dangerous.

Flipping two tiny neighborhoods to farther away schools just for the sake of rezoning is stupid and disruptive.

But it won't be over capacity because half of those kids will pupil place out to another school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been brought up, but West Springfield HS has trailers installed this year for the first time since the renovation was completed. I was not expecting that, because even though the CIP numbers say the school is overcrowded, my student's class numbers have been reasonable, cafeteria isn't crowded, etc.

It did strike me to wonder how having classes in trailers will impact community support of boundary changes. I feel like most of the discussion has been to just leave the boundary as is, from both those with potential to change and those without, but maybe adding trailers will change that vibe?

2 trailers (4 total rooms) is no big deal and what people want to get over this temporary peak until class of 2026 graduates. Once 2026 graduates, enrollment will start shrinking, gradually at first, then more noticeably.

Using trailers as a temporary solution is the best option over rezoning.

I'm not so sure WSHS's numbers are a temporary peak. What makes you think that? I looked at the Irving numbers and they seem to point to 650-700 in each high school class for the foreseeable future. And aren't our elementary schools over capacity as well?

Exactly. Daventry neighborhoods need to be sent back to Lewis. And all of Hunt Valley should be sent to Lewis. That would give you 700+ free seats at WSHS. Problem solved.

This is happening. For sure. And makes the most sense. They could shift only part of HVES to Lewis though, and that gives room for Orange Hunt kids to move to Hunt Valley.

But then you create a split feeder. Better to send the entire school to Lewis.

The neighborhood zoned for Hunt Valley inside the parkway is closer to WSHS than most of the neighborhoods zoned to WSHS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The mommies are fighting about the trailers on West Springfield Moms on FB and a former SB member cheered a feel good bland post supporting changing WS’s boundaries due to the trailers coming back (but of course, HER kids won’t be affected so it’s ok).

Which former School Board member?

Did they stick some trailers at West Springfield as props to support a boundary change? Wouldn't put it past them.

Yes, two trailers/four classrooms. And doing a couple classes before school to get them in (zero period).

AP Chemistry is before school because there was a teacher conflict. Nothing to do with space.

Mr. Mukai took one of the WSHS AP chem teachers with him to TJ.

That class has nothing to do with the school being overcrowded. It is because AP chem is a VERY popular class at WSHS because the main teacher is so strong.

That is great that WSHS came up with a creative solution for losing one of their amazing chem teachers to TJ, instead of just throwing a warm body or inexperienced teacher into the class, or cancelling one of the classes altogether.

That is not related to enrollment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been brought up, but West Springfield HS has trailers installed this year for the first time since the renovation was completed. I was not expecting that, because even though the CIP numbers say the school is overcrowded, my student's class numbers have been reasonable, cafeteria isn't crowded, etc.

It did strike me to wonder how having classes in trailers will impact community support of boundary changes. I feel like most of the discussion has been to just leave the boundary as is, from both those with potential to change and those without, but maybe adding trailers will change that vibe?

2 trailers (4 total rooms) is no big deal and what people want to get over this temporary peak until class of 2026 graduates. Once 2026 graduates, enrollment will start shrinking, gradually at first, then more noticeably.

Using trailers as a temporary solution is the best option over rezoning.

I'm not so sure WSHS's numbers are a temporary peak. What makes you think that? I looked at the Irving numbers and they seem to point to 650-700 in each high school class for the foreseeable future. And aren't our elementary schools over capacity as well?

Exactly. Daventry neighborhoods need to be sent back to Lewis. And all of Hunt Valley should be sent to Lewis. That would give you 700+ free seats at WSHS. Problem solved.

This is happening. For sure. And makes the most sense. They could shift only part of HVES to Lewis though, and that gives room for Orange Hunt kids to move to Hunt Valley.

Hunt Valley to Lewis doesn't make any sense geographically, especially since Lewis is so far from Hunt Valley when compared to the neighborhoods along Keene Mill Rd, like Daventry and half of Keene Mill elementary.

[Anonymous]

Since Kyle McDaniel is one of the school board members who has relentlessly pushed the comprehensive boundary review that’ll negatively affect thousands of kids across the county, is his family going to be moved as part of the changes?

If he thinks boundary change benefits outweigh the costs, then I hope he’ll volunteer to move his kid after she makes friends this year. It’s only fair.

Ditto for all the school board members who have kids in FCPS and voted for this slow burning dumpster fire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since Kyle McDaniel is one of the school board members who has relentlessly pushed the comprehensive boundary review that’ll negatively affect thousands of kids across the county, is his family going to be moved as part of the changes?

If he thinks boundary change benefits outweigh the costs, then I hope he’ll volunteer to move his kid after she makes friends this year. It’s only fair.

Ditto for all the school board members who have kids in FCPS and voted for this slow burning dumpster fire.

I just got his newsletter and he has crazy eyes. That is all.

[Anonymous]

According to the WS moms group on Facebook, the school is so overcrowded that teachers are quitting, some teachers are having to teach 4 classes at the same time and the halls are impassable. They can't wait for a boundary review. They need relief NOW. Can they just kick kids out of school to provide some relief? Send them away to LBSS or South County or Lewis?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to the WS moms group on Facebook, the school is so overcrowded that teachers are quitting, some teachers are having to teach 4 classes at the same time and the halls are impassable. They can't wait for a boundary review. They need relief NOW. Can they just kick kids out of school to provide some relief? Send them away to LBSS or South County or Lewis?

I was skeptical about needing a boundary change for WSHS, but I'm starting to change my mind. Even if it's my kid getting moved to Lewis. We weren't moved in the first round of maps, but we were speculated about. It really is getting crazy over there. And adding things like the metal detectors when the school is 500 kids over capacity is going to be a real problem. I don't want my kid missing the first half hour of his 1st period class (which is an AP) all year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to the WS moms group on Facebook, the school is so overcrowded that teachers are quitting, some teachers are having to teach 4 classes at the same time and the halls are impassable. They can't wait for a boundary review. They need relief NOW. Can they just kick kids out of school to provide some relief? Send them away to LBSS or South County or Lewis?

If teachers are teaching 4 classes at the same time, that means there are not enough teachers.

That does not make sense at all.

[Anonymous]

And in a few years we’re going to hit the natural demographic cliff of fewer children being born during the recession, so yeah let’s move a few hundred out of WSHS and leave the nice newer building under-utilized in 10 years. Sounds like a plan. BTW the proposed changes so far create an over 100% capacity situation at South County MS and a close to 100% situation at SCHS, but hey, that’s a problem for those kids, not for me!