I’m so sick of dogs everywhere

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Anonymous wrote:PP they are not forced but the sight of one indoors even for a day or week is enough to make students not want to go to school. those dogs have both effects on students.

Oh, stop. If this is your kid, please get them some stress tolerance training, or therapy, if the aversion is due to past trauma.

Otherwise, please kindly stfu with this nonsense. You're a mess.

Yuck you got out on the wrong side of bed today

Not really. I'm just fed up with people acting like their slightest discomfort should require formal accommodations.

"the sight of one indoors even for a day or week is enough to make students not want to go to school." Really, though? Is it? Because if the mere sight of something you dislike simply existing where you can easily avoid it is enough to make you want to quit your obligations entirely, well, you need some stress tolerance training, or maybe therapy, if the aversion is due to past trauma.

It's nonsense, and it's messy. I guess I could've not asked someone, mock-politely, to STFU with their messy nonsense, but, you know, I don't owe people being crazy demanding a gentle audience for their madness.

I think you need to remember you're talking about young children, and that kids' fears about dogs are actually pretty rational -- dogs are larger or similar in size to many kids,but they are animals and if not trained and socialized, can be very dangerous.

My daughter was afraid of dogs from about 5 to 8. To teach her not to be afraid, we couldn't just say "dogs are fine! They can't hurt you." Because a dog could hurt her. Instead we taught her to pay attention to the behavior of dogs and their owners. To notice the difference between a reactive dog and an non-reactive dog. To pay attention to whether the dog was leashed or not and how short or controlled the leash was. And with time she learned to relax around safe digs, the well behaved ones whose owners took care with them. But we also had to teach her strategies for dealing with dogs who aren't well behaved, whose owners don't train them or restrain them. To pay attention when a dog like this is coming and make choices to avoid them and keep herself safe. Unfortunately, here are more and more dogs like this, and their owners are often oblivious, so they would work against us ("He's friendly!" As their dog bounds up to our clearly terrified kid and tries to pick her face, not getting that the dog's personality is totally beside the point in that situation). So yeah, it took 3 years and now she's ok.

But what were you saying? Something about 1st graders sucking it up and dealing with having dogs in their school, and not being such snowflakes? I can't remember what your point was.

You know what would've been a great dynamic for you kid? A trained therapy dog experienced in a place they already felt safe.

False, and reflects how you don't understand this issue. If my kid had been taken in to meet a therapy dog at school during the peak of her dog fears, it would have completely terrified her and she would not have been able to participate in any "dog therapy" because she would have had to be forced to go into a room with animals she is afraid of. Even now, if you asked my kid (who is no longer terrified of dogs and can even pet and take her grandma's dogs for walks or interact with a friend's dog at their house) if she wanted to go do dog therapy, she'd tell you politely no thank and that she isn't really a dog person. That's still legal, right?

You're stupid defensive, and possibly just stupid, but yes. non-curricular school activities should be opt-in with advance notice.

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A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

I don't know that people need to take an office-wide opinion poll about something like this in a privately-owned workspace. I'm assuming the boss is okay with it or it wouldn't be happening. You're probably not entitled to a dog-free workspace, so if it bothers you, quit.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

I don't know that people need to take an office-wide opinion poll about something like this in a privately-owned workspace. I'm assuming the boss is okay with it or it wouldn't be happening. You're probably not entitled to a dog-free workspace, so if it bothers you, quit.

Sure! Until someone gets bitten or maimed and they get sued out of wazoo.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

I don't know that people need to take an office-wide opinion poll about something like this in a privately-owned workspace. I'm assuming the boss is okay with it or it wouldn't be happening. You're probably not entitled to a dog-free workspace, so if it bothers you, quit.

Sure! Until someone gets bitten or maimed and they get sued out of wazoo.

Why are you always making up problems where none actually exist? Is it fun for you? Is ordinary life too happy and easy for you, so you have to come up with a make-believe catastrophe?

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

I don't know that people need to take an office-wide opinion poll about something like this in a privately-owned workspace. I'm assuming the boss is okay with it or it wouldn't be happening. You're probably not entitled to a dog-free workspace, so if it bothers you, quit.

Sure! Until someone gets bitten or maimed and they get sued out of wazoo.

Why are you always making up problems where none actually exist? Is it fun for you? Is ordinary life too happy and easy for you, so you have to come up with a make-believe catastrophe?

Do you mean to tell me dogs never bite or attack? Why do you choose to live in some alternate reality where that never happens?

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

If this is an issue, can't see how it can't be, you should take it up with HR.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

I don't know that people need to take an office-wide opinion poll about something like this in a privately-owned workspace. I'm assuming the boss is okay with it or it wouldn't be happening. You're probably not entitled to a dog-free workspace, so if it bothers you, quit.

Sure! Until someone gets bitten or maimed and they get sued out of wazoo.

Why are you always making up problems where none actually exist? Is it fun for you? Is ordinary life too happy and easy for you, so you have to come up with a make-believe catastrophe?

DP...do you only know of people who like dogs? aren't afraid of them? aren't allergic to them? In an office, human resources and admin need to set a policy or there are going to be people leaving or suiing or both.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

I don't know that people need to take an office-wide opinion poll about something like this in a privately-owned workspace. I'm assuming the boss is okay with it or it wouldn't be happening. You're probably not entitled to a dog-free workspace, so if it bothers you, quit.

Sure! Until someone gets bitten or maimed and they get sued out of wazoo.

Why are you always making up problems where none actually exist? Is it fun for you? Is ordinary life too happy and easy for you, so you have to come up with a make-believe catastrophe?

Do you mean to tell me dogs never bite or attack? Why do you choose to live in some alternate reality where that never happens?

Despite the number of horrifically-unprepared/uneducated/incompetent dog owners these days, bite incidents are rare. The sort of person who'd get a dog cleared to be in a work environment is unlikely to have a poorly-trained dog, and the laws that govern the dog apply in the office so this person is more accountable than the average random person you might encounter on the street. Surely a business has contemplated the liability concerns; your ability to sue for damages extends not only to the dogowner, but the boss who let the dog be in your office.

But more than that, I want to point out that there are a few known catastrophe-pron posters who like to worst-case devil's advocate on this forum. There's a dog on a plane doing nothing, and these people start mess about "But what if it did?!!" and this is another example.

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SAME
They don't belong in grocery stores, schools, every freaking restaurant.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

I don't know that people need to take an office-wide opinion poll about something like this in a privately-owned workspace. I'm assuming the boss is okay with it or it wouldn't be happening. You're probably not entitled to a dog-free workspace, so if it bothers you, quit.

Sure! Until someone gets bitten or maimed and they get sued out of wazoo.

Why are you always making up problems where none actually exist? Is it fun for you? Is ordinary life too happy and easy for you, so you have to come up with a make-believe catastrophe?

DP...do you only know of people who like dogs? aren't afraid of them? aren't allergic to them? In an office, human resources and admin need to set a policy or there are going to be people leaving or suiing or both.

So leave. Quit your job. File an accessibility lawsuit if you feel that you and your allergies were unfairly discriminated against. HR and admin do seem to have set a policy: at least one person is allowed to bring their dog. Don't like it? vote with your feet.

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Anonymous wrote:SAME
They don't belong in grocery stores, schools, every freaking restaurant.

Yeah, dogs in restaurants is a gross one to me, and I love dogs. Service dogs, well-trained dogs sitting under their owner's chair, quietly minding their business, that's one thing. But your average dog owner with a poorly-trained pet has no business in a business selling food.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

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Tell your boss about it. Let them deal.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

Oh, you'd hate my office. Dogs are totally baked into the culture. We have special places for them to run and do their business, places to store their beds and bowls, treats in the lobby, pictures of dogs on the walls, places to tie them up to use the kitchen, etc. It's fun to see them all heading into work in the morning and they're a nice distraction when you need a little break.