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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]PP they are not forced but the sight of one indoors even for a day or week is enough to make students not want to go to school. those dogs have both effects on students.[/quote]

[b]Oh, stop. If this is your kid, please get them some stress tolerance training, or therapy, if the aversion is due to past trauma.

Otherwise, please kindly stfu with this nonsense. You're a mess.[/b][/quote]

Yuck you got out on the wrong side of bed today[/quote]

Not really. I'm just fed up with people acting like their slightest discomfort should require formal accommodations.

"the sight of one indoors even for a day or week is enough to make students not want to go to school."  Really, though? Is it? Because if the mere sight of something you dislike simply existing where you can easily avoid it is enough to make you want to quit your obligations entirely, well, you need some stress tolerance training, or maybe therapy, if the aversion is due to past trauma.

It's nonsense, and it's messy. I guess I could've not asked someone, mock-politely, to STFU with their messy nonsense, but, you know, I don't owe people being crazy demanding a gentle audience for their madness. [/quote]

I think you need to remember you're talking about young children, and that kids' fears about dogs are actually pretty rational -- dogs are larger or similar in size to many kids,but they are animals and if not trained and socialized, can be very dangerous.

My daughter was afraid of dogs from about 5 to 8. [b]To teach her not to be afraid, we couldn't just say "dogs are fine! They can't hurt you." Because a dog could hurt her. Instead we taught her to pay attention to the behavior of dogs and their owners. To notice the difference between a reactive dog and an non-reactive dog. To pay attention to whether the dog was leashed or not and how short or controlled the leash was. And with time she learned to relax around safe digs, the well behaved ones whose owners took care with them. But we also had to teach her strategies for dealing with dogs who aren't well behaved, whose owners don't train them or restrain them. To pay attention when a dog like this is coming and make choices to avoid them and keep herself safe. Unfortunately, here are more and more dogs like this, and their owners are often oblivious, so they would work against us ("He's friendly!" As their dog bounds up to our clearly terrified kid and tries to pick her face, not getting that the dog's personality is totally beside the point in that situation). So yeah, it took 3 years and now she's ok. [/b]

But what were you saying? Something about 1st graders sucking it up and dealing with having dogs in their school, and not being such snowflakes? I can't remember what your point was.[/quote]

You know what would've been a great dynamic for you kid? A trained therapy dog experienced in a place they already felt safe.  :roll: [/quote]

False, and reflects how you don't understand this issue. If my kid had been taken in to meet a therapy dog at school during the peak of her dog fears, it would have completely terrified her and she would not have been able to participate in any "dog therapy" because she would have had to be forced to go into a room with animals she is afraid of. Even now, if you asked my kid (who is no longer terrified of dogs and can even pet and take her grandma's dogs for walks or interact with a friend's dog at their house) if she wanted to go do dog therapy, she'd tell you politely no thank and that she isn't really a dog person. That's still legal, right? [/quote]

You're stupid defensive, and possibly just stupid, but yes. non-curricular school activities should be opt-in with advance notice. [/quote]

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