Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line: he really should have just complied. It really is that simple.

And the speed with which they criminally charged those poor officers? It was solely to try to avoid the woke mobs from launching another “fiery but mostly peaceful riot.” It’s a miscarriage of justice they were charged so fast. They are being railroaded.

This has been thoroughly covered. Your reading comprehension is terrible. Try again.

The coverage is that a crazy lady thinks that running from the cops and resisting arrest didn't occur even though there is video of both things happening.
This poor guy contributed do his own demise, like it or not.

Or . Hear me out. They had his car. They knew where he lived. All of this should’ve ended when he ran and they couldn’t catch up.but I’m just LE. What do I know

You don’t know what you are talking about. Besides being a former prosecutor I am a former county attorney (same as a DA) who was responsible for the civil liability of an entire jurisdiction. In terms of balancing public safety v costs,
Former prosecutor here and this is spot on. He was not accused of any offense that would justify a police chase, they should have towed his vehicle and proceeded from there. The chase was wrong from the start and the reason municipalities put chase limits in place for law enforcement is because experience has taught us that chases lead to amped cops who do not deescalate or control themselves appropriately and that leads sometimes to horrific fatal car crashes involving innocent bystanders or to acts of police brutality that both result in multi million dollar payouts. It’s a business issue as well as a civil liberties issue and public safety issue. The cops should only be chasing people who they have an actual good faith belief are an imminent danger to public safety and a kid fleeing a misdemeanor traffic stop is absolutely not that.

You are conflating foot pursuits and vehicle pursuits. Not the same thing at all.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. Get back to me when you’ve worked for years with law enforcement in the capacity of managing their violations of civil liberties and their egregious acts of brutality brought on by raging hormones from chasing a punk who doesn’t immediately comply. There is a reason that rational people in positions of leadership set parameters for these potential monsters.

Since you don't seem to know the difference between a foot pursuit and vehicle pursuit in terms of risk and liability, I have a hard time believing you have worked in any capacity with law enforcement.

Though I do believe you have a political agenda and have convinced yourself that you are knowledgeable about what is going on in the real world.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line: he really should have just complied. It really is that simple.

And the speed with which they criminally charged those poor officers? It was solely to try to avoid the woke mobs from launching another “fiery but mostly peaceful riot.” It’s a miscarriage of justice they were charged so fast. They are being railroaded.

Why do you all keep insisting on this BS. He was complying after the initial stop. Definitely as best he could to confusing directions. And they still tased him and continued to get rougher with him. It’s no wonder he ran at that point. His fight or flight instinct took over

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Being given, at times, contradictory commands doesn't justify active resistance. Everyone knows that you are hands go behind your back.

DS (white) was a passenger in a luxury car driven by his friend (black). DS started recording the interaction because he got so frightened for his friend. The officer at his window was asking for license and registration along with questions about the owner of the car and the officer on the passenger side of the window kept telling him to keep his hands on the wheel.

DS said neither officer even acknowledged him or made any comments about his hands or movements in the car (like playing with his phone to start recording). DS was never detained. His friend was. They didn't cuff him but did make him exit the vehicle and set on the curb. DS was allowed to remain in the car until 2 more officers arrived and then they simply told him to go stand off to the side. They questioned him over and over if his friend was really his friend and said things "Listen, if there's something in the car, tell me now. You don't want to get jammed up because of this guy." "Is there nothing in the car or is there nothing you know of in the car? Again, if I find it, everyone is going to jail. Don't get jammed up over someone else."

Initial stop was because the officer said my son's friend weaved. Once they determined it was a teen driving and not an adult, they shifted. It turned into searching for drugs. His friend told them they couldn't search the vehicle and the officer said it didn't matter because they smelled weed and that gave them probable cause.

They were 4 minutes from our house when this happened. I was waiting in the driveway when they got back and there was zero weed smell in that car or on their clothes. I didn't think so because DS has terrible asthma and his friend is very clean-cut.

That is awful. Did you file a complaint? Please be an ally. You can complain just on behalf of your child’s treatment and impact of what he witnessed

This is how they have treated teens from all races for decades. Same crap happened to me 20 years ago for being white driving through a rough neighborhood. I made a last minute turn into a neighborhood and they lit me up and shook down the car and made threats. Unless you are wealthy there is nothing you can do about it. Cops are on a power trip.

EXACTLY this. People here need to get honest. Cops have a knack for knowing who can afford to defend themselves, and who can’t.

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One of them was a prison guard before joining the MPD.

Not at all uncommon for someone to get their start in law enforcement as a jailer.

Exactly, and he was there for years. Pointing out that the two cops who were hired after MPD relaxed the standards is pointless when they both appear to have met the original standards.

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Cops always get pissy if you run or resist arrest. Is this rocket science? Doesn’t everyone know that??

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Everybody and their brother who was at the scene appears to have been fired. It's likely that several officers, to include fire personnel, will get their jobs back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bottom line: he really should have just complied. It really is that simple.

And the speed with which they criminally charged those poor officers? It was solely to try to avoid the woke mobs from launching another “fiery but mostly peaceful riot.” It’s a miscarriage of justice they were charged so fast. They are being railroaded.

This has been thoroughly covered. Your reading comprehension is terrible. Try again.

The coverage is that a crazy lady thinks that running from the cops and resisting arrest didn't occur even though there is video of both things happening.
This poor guy contributed do his own demise, like it or not.

Or . Hear me out. They had his car. They knew where he lived. All of this should’ve ended when he ran and they couldn’t catch up.but I’m just LE. What do I know

Former prosecutor here and this is spot on. He was not accused of any offense that would justify a police chase, they should have towed his vehicle and proceeded from there. The chase was wrong from the start and the reason municipalities put chase limits in place for law enforcement is because experience has taught us that chases lead to amped cops who do not deescalate or control themselves appropriately and that leads sometimes to horrific fatal car crashes involving innocent bystanders or to acts of police brutality that both result in multi million dollar payouts. It’s a business issue as well as a civil liberties issue and public safety issue. The cops should only be chasing people who they have an actual good faith belief are an imminent danger to public safety and a kid fleeing a misdemeanor traffic stop is absolutely not that.

Don’t chase limits incentivize detainees to run?

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What’s the history of the 5 criminal former cops?

And some more

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As expected (yet comments deleted multiple times) Monday has now come and this story is being buried in National news media. By next Friday, this will be ancient history. Pretty clear agenda and priorities the main stream media has (specifically racially oriented division)

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The SJWs have already moved on to something else. I'm sure there will be some attempts by politicians to pass laws to fix the problem, but it will be ineffective.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As expected (yet comments deleted multiple times) Monday has now come and this story is being buried in National news media. By next Friday, this will be ancient history. Pretty clear agenda and priorities the main stream media has (specifically racially oriented division)

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The SJWs have already moved on to something else. I'm sure there will be some attempts by politicians to pass laws to fix the problem, but it will be ineffective.

No one truly cares because they are black cops! Black cops behind bars. Black man dead. What exactly is the issue?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As expected (yet comments deleted multiple times) Monday has now come and this story is being buried in National news media. By next Friday, this will be ancient history. Pretty clear agenda and priorities the main stream media has (specifically racially oriented division)

+1

The SJWs have already moved on to something else. I'm sure there will be some attempts by politicians to pass laws to fix the problem, but it will be ineffective.

I don't think that's happening at all. His funeral coverage is on the main page cnn, nbc news, abc news, & msnbc. Not fox that I saw. I mean, it's there somewhere I'm sure, but not the main page like the others. Maybe it's not SJW's who are neglecting the story, but some people want to forget about it.

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Anonymous wrote:the video is horrific.

republicans are out in force all over social media stoking violence.
From gun boards, rumble to Truth Social they are out of their dam minds.

Did you see the video? I can't find it.

TBH, the justice warriors cry wolf all the time with these cases, so it's not like they have any more credibility than the NRA crowd.

Yes.

This is not "crying wolf". The video factually shows that the officers need to be in jail for the rest of their lives.

There is no leeway or maybes here these officers are guilty, clear as day.

This.

Those "cops" should never have been cops.

Perhaps hired because of their skin color?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the video is horrific.

republicans are out in force all over social media stoking violence.
From gun boards, rumble to Truth Social they are out of their dam minds.

Did you see the video? I can't find it.

TBH, the justice warriors cry wolf all the time with these cases, so it's not like they have any more credibility than the NRA crowd.

Yes.

This is not "crying wolf". The video factually shows that the officers need to be in jail for the rest of their lives.

There is no leeway or maybes here these officers are guilty, clear as day.

This.

Those "cops" should never have been cops.

Perhaps hired because of their skin color?

I agree they never should have been cops but I really doubt they were hired because they are black! Memphis is a majority black city with a majority black police force so it makes sense that they are black. What doesn’t make sense is why they murdered an innocent man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As expected (yet comments deleted multiple times) Monday has now come and this story is being buried in National news media. By next Friday, this will be ancient history. Pretty clear agenda and priorities the main stream media has (specifically racially oriented division)

+1

The SJWs have already moved on to something else. I'm sure there will be some attempts by politicians to pass laws to fix the problem, but it will be ineffective.

You keep insisting this here and you are full of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As expected (yet comments deleted multiple times) Monday has now come and this story is being buried in National news media. By next Friday, this will be ancient history. Pretty clear agenda and priorities the main stream media has (specifically racially oriented division)

+1

The SJWs have already moved on to something else. I'm sure there will be some attempts by politicians to pass laws to fix the problem, but it will be ineffective.

Tiny, tiny fraction of the attention George Floyd got. The weather was nicer when he was murdered, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As expected (yet comments deleted multiple times) Monday has now come and this story is being buried in National news media. By next Friday, this will be ancient history. Pretty clear agenda and priorities the main stream media has (specifically racially oriented division)

+1

The SJWs have already moved on to something else. I'm sure there will be some attempts by politicians to pass laws to fix the problem, but it will be ineffective.

Tiny, tiny fraction of the attention George Floyd got. The weather was nicer when he was murdered, I guess.

We were in a lockdown for months. Those protests/ riots provided a great excuse to ignore covid for a bit.