Kate's New Picture

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Anonymous wrote:Are there actually any real updates after the back of head car photo of Kate and William? Seems like there's been no real update since then.

She’s out until Easter. Expect the next update then.

Expect an update by Easter. We shall see. In the meantime there will likely be another 300 pages of repeated postings. I don’t even read it all anymore. I did the first 300 or so pages. Now I jump to the last page and read a few posts and leave. You?

Hun, the entire planet is rapidly discussing this. EVERYONE. it isn't just a DCUM thing.

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Anonymous wrote:First time poster on this thread because i finally caught up.

-There are some absurd unfounded conspiracy theories stated here as fact (death, coma, illegitimate kids, etc.). I think it drags the thread down because because it's nonsense BUT the person who keeps commenting that it's hurtful, we should let Kate recover in peace, etc. should just calm down and not read this thread. I can assure you Kate isn't reading it either.

-Too many uniformed people are stating conjecture as fact, e.g. "The woman in the car photo is Pippi," "Kate hasn't seen her kids in 3 months," etc. Also, just because you read a comment on X or hear it from someone who has friends in Britain doesn't mean it's true. Media Literacy 101, people!

-There are a few (just a few) people here who have made some good insights because they understand how media and PR work and/or have knowledge of the BRF. They are getting drowned out by some people who are clueless, uninformed, and/or don't have basic reasoning abilities.

-How many times will someone post the joke about Kate losing her hands in a photoshop accident?!



-Kate

You are not using the phrase conspiracy theory correctly. Making conjectures is not conspiracy theorizing.

Okay, I'll clarify. Examples: Saying Kate may have an ED is conjecture. Saying that she's dead and KP staged a proof of life photo using Pippa as a stand-in is a conspiracy theory.

DP. I don't disagree with you but are a lot of people saying that it was Pippa in the car on Monday? I may have seen someone idly suggest that in an unserious way, but I don't think it's a prevailing theory. More people definitely (nonsensically) believe the Daily Mail or the photographer photoshopped Kate into that photo. Which is such a weird theory I won't even address all the reasons it doesn't make sense, but that's definitely a thing I've seen making the rounds.

A lot of people (me included) think it was Pippa in the car with Carole Middleton, because that woman looks just like Pippa (and does not look like Kate, really, except insofar as the sisters resemble each other) and also it would make perfect sense for Pippa to be in a car with her mom and less sense for Kate to be in the car, as Kate has a lot of security and less general freedom and is also I think at home recovering from some kind of medical issue. But that's not a conspiracy theory -- I just think that woman looks like Pippa not Kate. I don't think it means anything.

The woman in the car had Pippas entire jawline

Well they are sisters...

They have two entirely different shaped faces, it was not Kate. It was Pippa. Compare the jaw lines.

No offense, but the notion that KP would've staged a photo with Pippa pretending to be Kate is absurd. They faced enough backlash after the altered photo, why would they pull a far more outlandish stunt? And why would Pippa participate in such a cover up? It was Kate, but looking away from the camera because she is very ill.

Car photo was before the Mother’s Day photo fiasco there was never a statement from KP that it was Kate. I firmly believe it was Pippa. I think they did not stop the press from saying it was Kate because it worked and if people believed it, great! But the issue was that people quietly speculated it wasn’t and they released the Mother’s Day photo to prove she was well. That is where everything snowballed.

I wasn't referring to the TMZ photo. I am referring to the one that ran after the Mother's Day fiasco. The photo of Wiilian and Kate, where her head is turned away from the camera. KP tipped off a pap because they needed a proof of life photo. Photo ran in the Daily Mail.

Was it even her?

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Anonymous wrote:Are there actually any real updates after the back of head car photo of Kate and William? Seems like there's been no real update since then.

She’s out until Easter. Expect the next update then.

Expect an update by Easter. We shall see. In the meantime there will likely be another 300 pages of repeated postings. I don’t even read it all anymore. I did the first 300 or so pages. Now I jump to the last page and read a few posts and leave. You?

Hun, the entire planet is rapidly discussing this. EVERYONE. it isn't just a DCUM thing.

The downfall of the internet.

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Anonymous wrote:Occam's Razor. Responding to some prior comments:

1) Kate is recovering from a serious abdominal surgery. KP wouldn't have announced such unglamorous news were it not the case. If they wanted an excuse for Kate being out of the public eye, they could've concocted something else.

2) Kate's condition may or may not be related to an ED. But there's no evidence that she's ever had a drinking problem!

3) Years ago, I believed the rumors that William had an affair with Rose. But after Pippa named her daughter Rose, this seems doubtful.

4) KP is not "soft launching" Rose. The reason The Independent ran the feature on Rose is because people are curious about her given the explosion of interest in William and Kate's marriage. Even if William and Rose were having an affair, I seriously doubt they would think now, while Kate is ill, is a good time to gin up some favorable press in William's mistress.

5) The photo of William and Kate in the car was exactly that. After the fiasco over the altered photo, do you really think KP would pull a stunt by having Pippa sit in for Kate in the "proof of life" photo?! Kate is almost certainly looking away from the camera because she is unwell and doesn't want to be photographed, which we already know.

6) KP said from the beginning that Kate would be off until sometime after Easter. So this is not unexpected.

7) The part that is peculiar is KP has not released any credible recent photos of Kate during her recovery, such as the obligatory "looking at well-wishers' cards" photo. This obviously indicates that Kate is feeling quite unwell, likely both physically and mentally.

8) But it does not suggest that Kate was in a coma! Just because Kate has a Spanish nanny doesn't mean that the Spanish reporter is correct. (Hey, I have British family and that doesn't make me an insider.) That reporter has written that Michael Jackson and Princess Diana were murdered...

TL;DR - We haven't seen Kate because she's feeling unwell, likely both mentally and physically. But some of the conspiracy theories are nutty.

Do you have a cite for that? I thought that was actually quite a recent development.

Yes. Official KP statement from Jan. 17. (I follow this stuff.)
https://www.royal.uk/news-and-activity/2024-01-17/a-statement-from-kensington-palace

Cool. I am actually reassured by that. It's less haphazard a progression than I thought.

It; 's a very good and clear statement. I just don't know where Or why it went off the rails. Like really off the rails, and it happened well before the picture gate.

Like how did this happen?

I know, right? It feels like there should be actual adults in charge of this, at this level, but it comes off like some inexperienced high schoolers who think they can wing it and get lucky. And it feels like there is a lot of weirdness to handle behind the scenes anyway, so it deserves the A Team (not the AV Club).

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Has Meghan (and Harry) issued a formal statement on the issue? Are they worried about Kate?

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The whole thing blew up because of the Mother’s Day photo. It’s a complete own goal. The U.K. press were dutifully playing along and refused to publish the first car photo.

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Anonymous wrote:Occam's Razor. Responding to some prior comments:

1) Kate is recovering from a serious abdominal surgery. KP wouldn't have announced such unglamorous news were it not the case. If they wanted an excuse for Kate being out of the public eye, they could've concocted something else.

2) Kate's condition may or may not be related to an ED. But there's no evidence that she's ever had a drinking problem!

3) Years ago, I believed the rumors that William had an affair with Rose. But after Pippa named her daughter Rose, this seems doubtful.

4) KP is not "soft launching" Rose. The reason The Independent ran the feature on Rose is because people are curious about her given the explosion of interest in William and Kate's marriage. Even if William and Rose were having an affair, I seriously doubt they would think now, while Kate is ill, is a good time to gin up some favorable press in William's mistress.

5) The photo of William and Kate in the car was exactly that. After the fiasco over the altered photo, do you really think KP would pull a stunt by having Pippa sit in for Kate in the "proof of life" photo?! Kate is almost certainly looking away from the camera because she is unwell and doesn't want to be photographed, which we already know.

6) KP said from the beginning that Kate would be off until sometime after Easter. So this is not unexpected.

7) The part that is peculiar is KP has not released any credible recent photos of Kate during her recovery, such as the obligatory "looking at well-wishers' cards" photo. This obviously indicates that Kate is feeling quite unwell, likely both physically and mentally.

8) But it does not suggest that Kate was in a coma! Just because Kate has a Spanish nanny doesn't mean that the Spanish reporter is correct. (Hey, I have British family and that doesn't make me an insider.) That reporter has written that Michael Jackson and Princess Diana were murdered...

TL;DR - We haven't seen Kate because she's feeling unwell, likely both mentally and physically. But some of the conspiracy theories are nutty.

Do you have a cite for that? I thought that was actually quite a recent development.

Yes. Official KP statement from Jan. 17. (I follow this stuff.)
https://www.royal.uk/news-and-activity/2024-01-17/a-statement-from-kensington-palace

Cool. I am actually reassured by that. It's less haphazard a progression than I thought.

It; 's a very good and clear statement. I just don't know where Or why it went off the rails. Like really off the rails, and it happened well before the picture gate.

Like how did this happen?

It happened because KP started responding to gossip (the coma thing). I really don’t understand why they did that.

I don’t understand that, either. But it definitely got everybody’s spidey senses tingling, and then they went on to release the fake photo, and it’s snowballed from there.

For me it was when William gave "personal matter" as a reason why he missed his godfathers memorial service. It had been just over a month since Kate's surgery and people were like "What? What's going on? Is Kate Okay?" If he had said something like due to flu he had to cancel last minutes, people wouldn't have reacted that much. There was a thread here at that time too.

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The more I look, the more that is Pippa in the car with Carol. The photographer or eyewitnesses only saw them in the vehicle. I was thinking that this is all a hullabaloo, because look, she's been seen with her mom recently. But now I realize that even this photo may not be her.

https://www.etonline.com/photographer-reveals-how-that-kate-middleton-car-photo-unexpectedly-happened-221604

https://images.app.goo.gl/LhGxWjZH7c49ZQ3m8
Looking at Pippa in photos with glasses:
https://images.app.goo.gl/LJ9111VPh6kvjY1XA

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Anonymous wrote:Are there actually any real updates after the back of head car photo of Kate and William? Seems like there's been no real update since then.

She’s out until Easter. Expect the next update then.

Expect an update by Easter. We shall see. In the meantime there will likely be another 300 pages of repeated postings. I don’t even read it all anymore. I did the first 300 or so pages. Now I jump to the last page and read a few posts and leave. You?

Hun, the entire planet is rapidly discussing this. EVERYONE. it isn't just a DCUM thing.

Ugh. I am under no illusion that dcum is the entire universe of people wondering where Kate is! And I started here and will end here. I’m not scouring news and gossip sources looking for nibbles of info.

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Anonymous wrote:Has Meghan (and Harry) issued a formal statement on the issue? Are they worried about Kate?

they had their sources say they'd never make a mistake such as the Mother's Day photo. and that's pretty much it. Though in fairness the rest of the RF is business as usually so it shouldn't be any different for then.

I believe Harry released a one sentence statement saying that comment wasn’t from them.

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Anonymous wrote:Occam's Razor. Responding to some prior comments:

1) Kate is recovering from a serious abdominal surgery. KP wouldn't have announced such unglamorous news were it not the case. If they wanted an excuse for Kate being out of the public eye, they could've concocted something else.

2) Kate's condition may or may not be related to an ED. But there's no evidence that she's ever had a drinking problem!

3) Years ago, I believed the rumors that William had an affair with Rose. But after Pippa named her daughter Rose, this seems doubtful.

4) KP is not "soft launching" Rose. The reason The Independent ran the feature on Rose is because people are curious about her given the explosion of interest in William and Kate's marriage. Even if William and Rose were having an affair, I seriously doubt they would think now, while Kate is ill, is a good time to gin up some favorable press in William's mistress.

5) The photo of William and Kate in the car was exactly that. After the fiasco over the altered photo, do you really think KP would pull a stunt by having Pippa sit in for Kate in the "proof of life" photo?! Kate is almost certainly looking away from the camera because she is unwell and doesn't want to be photographed, which we already know.

6) KP said from the beginning that Kate would be off until sometime after Easter. So this is not unexpected.

7) The part that is peculiar is KP has not released any credible recent photos of Kate during her recovery, such as the obligatory "looking at well-wishers' cards" photo. This obviously indicates that Kate is feeling quite unwell, likely both physically and mentally.

8) But it does not suggest that Kate was in a coma! Just because Kate has a Spanish nanny doesn't mean that the Spanish reporter is correct. (Hey, I have British family and that doesn't make me an insider.) That reporter has written that Michael Jackson and Princess Diana were murdered...

TL;DR - We haven't seen Kate because she's feeling unwell, likely both mentally and physically. But some of the conspiracy theories are nutty.

Do you have a cite for that? I thought that was actually quite a recent development.

Yes. Official KP statement from Jan. 17. (I follow this stuff.)
https://www.royal.uk/news-and-activity/2024-01-17/a-statement-from-kensington-palace

Cool. I am actually reassured by that. It's less haphazard a progression than I thought.

It; 's a very good and clear statement. I just don't know where Or why it went off the rails. Like really off the rails, and it happened well before the picture gate.

Like how did this happen?

It happened because KP started responding to gossip (the coma thing). I really don’t understand why they did that.

I don’t understand that, either. But it definitely got everybody’s spidey senses tingling, and then they went on to release the fake photo, and it’s snowballed from there.

For me it was when William gave "personal matter" as a reason why he missed his godfathers memorial service. It had been just over a month since Kate's surgery and people were like "What? What's going on? Is Kate Okay?" If he had said something like due to flu he had to cancel last minutes, people wouldn't have reacted that much. There was a thread here at that time too.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Occam's Razor. Responding to some prior comments:

1) Kate is recovering from a serious abdominal surgery. KP wouldn't have announced such unglamorous news were it not the case. If they wanted an excuse for Kate being out of the public eye, they could've concocted something else.

2) Kate's condition may or may not be related to an ED. But there's no evidence that she's ever had a drinking problem!

3) Years ago, I believed the rumors that William had an affair with Rose. But after Pippa named her daughter Rose, this seems doubtful.

4) KP is not "soft launching" Rose. The reason The Independent ran the feature on Rose is because people are curious about her given the explosion of interest in William and Kate's marriage. Even if William and Rose were having an affair, I seriously doubt they would think now, while Kate is ill, is a good time to gin up some favorable press in William's mistress.

5) The photo of William and Kate in the car was exactly that. After the fiasco over the altered photo, do you really think KP would pull a stunt by having Pippa sit in for Kate in the "proof of life" photo?! Kate is almost certainly looking away from the camera because she is unwell and doesn't want to be photographed, which we already know.

6) KP said from the beginning that Kate would be off until sometime after Easter. So this is not unexpected.

7) The part that is peculiar is KP has not released any credible recent photos of Kate during her recovery, such as the obligatory "looking at well-wishers' cards" photo. This obviously indicates that Kate is feeling quite unwell, likely both physically and mentally.

8) But it does not suggest that Kate was in a coma! Just because Kate has a Spanish nanny doesn't mean that the Spanish reporter is correct. (Hey, I have British family and that doesn't make me an insider.) That reporter has written that Michael Jackson and Princess Diana were murdered...

TL;DR - We haven't seen Kate because she's feeling unwell, likely both mentally and physically. But some of the conspiracy theories are nutty.

Do you have a cite for that? I thought that was actually quite a recent development.

Yes. Official KP statement from Jan. 17. (I follow this stuff.)
https://www.royal.uk/news-and-activity/2024-01-17/a-statement-from-kensington-palace

Cool. I am actually reassured by that. It's less haphazard a progression than I thought.

It; 's a very good and clear statement. I just don't know where Or why it went off the rails. Like really off the rails, and it happened well before the picture gate.

Like how did this happen?

It happened because KP started responding to gossip (the coma thing). I really don’t understand why they did that.

I don’t understand that, either. But it definitely got everybody’s spidey senses tingling, and then they went on to release the fake photo, and it’s snowballed from there.

For me it was when William gave "personal matter" as a reason why he missed his godfathers memorial service. It had been just over a month since Kate's surgery and people were like "What? What's going on? Is Kate Okay?" If he had said something like due to flu he had to cancel last minutes, people wouldn't have reacted that much. There was a thread here at that time too.

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It was also weird that they felt the need to preemptively say he wasn’t missing the service because of the Kingston suicide. Nobody asked? I don’t think Kingston’s death has anything to do with whatever Kate is dealing with, but it added to the weirdness.

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Anonymous wrote:Has Meghan (and Harry) issued a formal statement on the issue? Are they worried about Kate?

they had their sources say they'd never make a mistake such as the Mother's Day photo. and that's pretty much it. Though in fairness the rest of the RF is business as usually so it shouldn't be any different for then.

H&M deny they or anyone in their camp ever said that. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13193231/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-break-silence-Princess-Kate-photo-editing.html

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Anonymous wrote:Has Meghan (and Harry) issued a formal statement on the issue? Are they worried about Kate?

they had their sources say they'd never make a mistake such as the Mother's Day photo. and that's pretty much it. Though in fairness the rest of the RF is business as usually so it shouldn't be any different for then.

I believe Harry released a one sentence statement saying that comment wasn’t from them.

That will fall on deaf ears. The princess worshippers here don't care, nor does the British press because, for them, everything is H&M's fault. I laughed and agreed with the South Park show about them, but I'm actually starting to feel sorry for them when I see all the stuff about how they're behind the photo etc.

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Anonymous wrote:When are you folks going to realize no one is posting any new information, people are just uploading and circulating the same tired rumors and conspiracy theories claiming they have insider information because it gets them clicks and money.

We likely have at least 2 more weeks before we get anything new to talk about depending on if Kate is able to attend Easter events.

This!

You two are responsible for 1/3 of the posts here. When are you going to realize that you're responsible for a large share of this thread's length?