Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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It’s like Zelensky isn’t really Ukranian or something , almost like ukies getting slaughtered doesn’t get to him while he counting his … incoming reports.

He’s a Jew not a Ukrainian

Ukraine isn’t in the new world.

In the old world, words have meanings

This is Russian propaganda and anti semitic.

One’s religion does not determine one’s nationality.


Ukraine should decide what world they belong in - not Russia.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans must stop this war today.

Obviously, that is up to Russia.

I would settle for Republicans stopping cultish worship of a conman/ fraud/ insurrectionist/ mentally ill person who does not attend church or practice spiritual faith but somehow has the endorsement of white evangelicals.

That deeply unstable person’s treasonous deference to Putin continues to place US at national security risk. US democracy has been downgraded three times since Trump entered the national political arena in 2016 - starting with his encouraging Russia to interfere in 2016 elections. It is now considered a partial democracy by international democracy observers.

The vast majority of us don’t want to live in an authoritarian state like Russia where you can be jailed or killed for no good reason.

Praying for freedom and peace in Ukraine and for innocents (including those in Russia) .

See, Russia = Trump.

You raise a valid point in this case.

[Anonymous]

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It’s like Zelensky isn’t really Ukranian or something , almost like ukies getting slaughtered doesn’t get to him while he counting his … incoming reports.

He’s a Jew not a Ukrainian

Ukraine isn’t in the new world.

In the old world, words have meanings

This is Russian propaganda and anti semitic.

One’s religion does not determine one’s nationality.


Ukraine should decide what world they belong in - not Russia.

being a Jew isn’t determined by one’s adherence to a religion

It’s not Russian propoganda - it’s what things have been like on the Eurasian supercontinent for 5000+ years

If you don’t like it, come to America 🇺🇸 🦅

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
It’s like Zelensky isn’t really Ukranian or something , almost like ukies getting slaughtered doesn’t get to him while he counting his … incoming reports.

He’s a Jew not a Ukrainian

Ukraine isn’t in the new world.

In the old world, words have meanings

This is Russian propaganda and anti semitic.

One’s religion does not determine one’s nationality.


Ukraine should decide what world they belong in - not Russia.

being a Jew isn’t determined by one’s adherence to a religion

It’s not Russian propoganda - it’s what things have been like on the Eurasian supercontinent for 5000+ years

If you don’t like it, come to America 🇺🇸 🦅

I’m already in America and do like it here thanks.

It is ridiculous to argue that Zelensky is not Ukrainian because he is Jewish. Neither religion nor ethnic identity determine nationality.

It is up to Ukraine to decide what world they want to live in and they are clear that prefer to become a Western democracy rather than part of the Russian dictatorship.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt Ukrainians have suffered enormous casualties. Maybe not as bad as Russians, who are losing almost a 1000 a day in places like Avdiivka.



This is a serious war. Saw a report that indicates that Russians have less than a 4 percent chance of surviving a year on the front. I'm sure it's similar for Ukrainian soldiers.

Speaking of BS...

Russia would have had to have lost their entire army almost twice over for your 4 percent figure to be even remotely possible. Given what we can guess about Russian force size and casualties, its probably more like a 4 percent chance of dying since the start of the SMO.

If you want to see Russian casualties, you can just look here: https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

There was an uptick in October when Russia started pushing on Avdeevka, but it wasn't even 1,000 for the month on all fronts combined.

And surely you must realize that if Russia was losing 1,000 a day there, then they wouldn't be winning that battle.

That's completely false. UK and other intelligence services have independently confirmed a high in daily numbers of Russian casualties near 1000 at Avdiivka. Only 1000 troops lost in Russia in a month is absolute laughable delusion.

Mediazona's info is solely based on info released by or confirmed by Russian government sources. They are greatly undercounting deaths.

They use publicly available documents. When someone dies in this day and age, it creates a paper trail. Mediazona has the names, ranks, date of death and other information. Who do you think they are missing? Can you name an individual you think died but isn't listed? Do you think they are systematically missing people from certain regions, or population groups? Where are the bodies?

Intel agency data is in the "trust me bro" tier. Where do their numbers come from, and what data corroborates their counts? Do you know their methodology? Intelligence agencies produce reports they find useful, not necessarily truthful.

That website states that it is an undercount and “The actual death toll is likely significantly higher. ”

Note that Russia also has a lot of PMC’s, prisoners, and other irregular troops that are not counted. Not to mention militias from the Donbas that are not counted.

Prigozhin said he lost 20k troops just in Bakhmut.

Russia is losing roughly 15,000-20,000 soldiers per month in Ukraine. More lately because of how awful the fighting is in Adviika. Most are mobiks from the hinterlands. The smart ones in Moscow and St. Petersburg all left at the start of the war. There are now huge Russian populations in Indonesia and Turkey.

Technically, Russia can absorb these losses of men. It's a big country. It's their equipment losses that are a problem. Thousands of tanks, not to mention all the armored personnel carriers, artillery etc.

This is a really grim war. You can go to twitter or telegram or reddit and see it all. It's horrible.

I think Ukrainians understand this is going to be a long war. And so they are in soldier preservation mode. They are on defense. Would not expect a major offensive from Ukrainians in the foreseeable future. They're just trying to survive. Ukraine has 44 million people. Russia has 143 million people

We've reached the point where life preservation for Ukrainian soldiers has become pretty important. Russians don't care at all.

Huge numbers of Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut, at Vuhledar, at Avdiivka and many other places. Russia is wasting its future on a war that is causing it massive attrition - even as Russia heads into a crisis of population collapse.

Any estimates that can't address the questions of "what were their names?" and "where are their bodies?" is probably a hoax to some degree.

The people claiming big numbers of Russian dead have a problem with the bodies. Early in the war Ukrainian propaganda at least was talking about mobile crematoriums. Then it devolved into "meat cubes," now they are too lazy to even attempt to solve the body problem. They just act like Russians come out of some cloning lab and despawn when hit.

No. You missed the articles about the backed up trucks at the crematoriums. Go back about 200 pages. Now Russia mostly leaves the bodies lying around wherever. Apparently dead Russian soldiers aren't worth wasting the vehicles or fuel to transport back anymore since it's winter and another 4 months before anything is likely done about it. But if you believe that the Russians are 'winning' or that they aren't dying in huge numbers, maybe you can explain where the 25th Combined Arms Army is right now and why they were committed? https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-army-15-000-soldiers-145402713.html

[Anonymous]

Did I mention I think Solovyov may be off-air by January? Take a look at this video and I think it'll make sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1AGyq7AbEI
Solovyov is frequently on the defensive now since he announced on-air he was Jewish. Here he rants for 4:36 against antisemitism, but at the end ironically advertises his own male chauvenism?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7qlEYndxQ0

"citizens of foreign countries who enter Russia must promise that they will not doubt the correctness of Kremlin's actions and decisions, or Russia's contribution to the victory over fascism. Also, under no circumstances should they spread propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations or deny traditional family values."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvFziIY7GpQ

Simonyan is off her meds again. She thinks that Americans will be running to Russia to become citizens to sign these loyalty agreements?
"all of them will run to us, to fix our demographic crisis."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUwcGI9F4QQ

Not sure if Simonyan realized it or not, but she admitted Russia has a demographic crisis on national TV? Meanwhile Putin has a more pragmatic solution to the birthrate issue.

Putin: “Many of our peoples maintain the tradition of the family, where four, five or more children are raised,”
“Recall that in Russian families our grandmothers and great-grandmothers had both 7 and 8 children. Let us preserve and revive these traditions. Having many children, a large family, should become a norm, a way of life for all the peoples of Russia.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-women-eight-children-ukraine-war-b2455957.html

Regardless, Russia is preparing to send younger-and-younger children into the military. This song sung to Russian Middle Schoolers gives you an idea how screwed up the Russian concept of religion and military service are. [0:37 / 1:43] and [1:13 / 1:43] and [1:30 / 1:43] Take a look at the faces of the kids. You can tell they're jazzed to fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNPW230hbP4

"Brother, don't wait to be called up!
Take revenge on the enemy for our destroyed USSR!
Our main battle lies ahead, just find your faith, and destroy their Devil's Sabbath!
Globalism and liberal fascism are against us, the Satan's black mass
Open racism, social Darwinism
The aggressor will be destroyed

Poor Ukraine is stricken with cancer of the fratricide
Only the might of weapons can fully cleanse Ukrainians from anti-Russian'ness
From Mazepa's, Petliura's, Bandera's sins* and from the bad fate of Judas
From a villager slave's nature of a rat
and from the misleading heresy of Rome**

* = This is a reference to three historical figures primarily in the Stalin era.
Ivan Stepanovych Mazepa was a Ukrainian military, political, and civic leader said to have a role in the murder, rape, assault, mutilation and dispossession of tens of thousands of Jews during the Russian Civil War between 1917 and 1921.
Symon Vasylyovych Petliura (1879 - 1926) was a Ukrainian politician and journalist. He was the Supreme Commander of the Ukrainian People's Army and led the Ukrainian People's Republic during the Ukrainian War of Independence, a part of the wider Russian Civil War.
Ukrainians in the north and west largely see Bandera as a hero, or as a martyred liberation fighter, while Ukrainians in the south and east condemn him as a fascist or Nazi collaborator (leading "Banderites" responsible for massacres of Polish and Jewish civilians during World War II). Technically, he was never a Ukranian citizen. Bandera was assassinated by the KGB using cyanide gas in 1959.
** = Referring to the Pope

[Anonymous]

Isn't Putin starting to take his Soviet nostalgia a bit too far? Now Russia has fights breaking out and long lines of people waiting to buy eggs and other items in shortage or facing big inflationary price increases.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt Ukrainians have suffered enormous casualties. Maybe not as bad as Russians, who are losing almost a 1000 a day in places like Avdiivka.



This is a serious war. Saw a report that indicates that Russians have less than a 4 percent chance of surviving a year on the front. I'm sure it's similar for Ukrainian soldiers.

Speaking of BS...

Russia would have had to have lost their entire army almost twice over for your 4 percent figure to be even remotely possible. Given what we can guess about Russian force size and casualties, its probably more like a 4 percent chance of dying since the start of the SMO.

If you want to see Russian casualties, you can just look here: https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

There was an uptick in October when Russia started pushing on Avdeevka, but it wasn't even 1,000 for the month on all fronts combined.

And surely you must realize that if Russia was losing 1,000 a day there, then they wouldn't be winning that battle.

That's completely false. UK and other intelligence services have independently confirmed a high in daily numbers of Russian casualties near 1000 at Avdiivka. Only 1000 troops lost in Russia in a month is absolute laughable delusion.

Mediazona's info is solely based on info released by or confirmed by Russian government sources. They are greatly undercounting deaths.

They use publicly available documents. When someone dies in this day and age, it creates a paper trail. Mediazona has the names, ranks, date of death and other information. Who do you think they are missing? Can you name an individual you think died but isn't listed? Do you think they are systematically missing people from certain regions, or population groups? Where are the bodies?

Intel agency data is in the "trust me bro" tier. Where do their numbers come from, and what data corroborates their counts? Do you know their methodology? Intelligence agencies produce reports they find useful, not necessarily truthful.

That website states that it is an undercount and “The actual death toll is likely significantly higher. ”

Note that Russia also has a lot of PMC’s, prisoners, and other irregular troops that are not counted. Not to mention militias from the Donbas that are not counted.

Prigozhin said he lost 20k troops just in Bakhmut.

Russia is losing roughly 15,000-20,000 soldiers per month in Ukraine. More lately because of how awful the fighting is in Adviika. Most are mobiks from the hinterlands. The smart ones in Moscow and St. Petersburg all left at the start of the war. There are now huge Russian populations in Indonesia and Turkey.

Technically, Russia can absorb these losses of men. It's a big country. It's their equipment losses that are a problem. Thousands of tanks, not to mention all the armored personnel carriers, artillery etc.

This is a really grim war. You can go to twitter or telegram or reddit and see it all. It's horrible.

I think Ukrainians understand this is going to be a long war. And so they are in soldier preservation mode. They are on defense. Would not expect a major offensive from Ukrainians in the foreseeable future. They're just trying to survive. Ukraine has 44 million people. Russia has 143 million people

We've reached the point where life preservation for Ukrainian soldiers has become pretty important. Russians don't care at all.

Huge numbers of Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut, at Vuhledar, at Avdiivka and many other places. Russia is wasting its future on a war that is causing it massive attrition - even as Russia heads into a crisis of population collapse.

Any estimates that can't address the questions of "what were their names?" and "where are their bodies?" is probably a hoax to some degree.

The people claiming big numbers of Russian dead have a problem with the bodies. Early in the war Ukrainian propaganda at least was talking about mobile crematoriums. Then it devolved into "meat cubes," now they are too lazy to even attempt to solve the body problem. They just act like Russians come out of some cloning lab and despawn when hit.

There's no "body problem" in the narrative. Every single day there are brand new videos coming out showing battlefields and trenches littered with dozens of Russian corpses, just abandoned and left behind to decay and literally fulfil the metaphor of becoming fertilizer for sunflowers. Putin does not care enough about their names to have their bodies recovered and given a proper funeral. And their families back home in Ingushetia or wherever else will just be lied to, told they are still at the front fighting, or ran away and went awol, or maybe if their disappearance drags on long enough, the government will eventually give them a loaf of bread for their troubles. That's just the fact of what's been going on.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt Ukrainians have suffered enormous casualties. Maybe not as bad as Russians, who are losing almost a 1000 a day in places like Avdiivka.



This is a serious war. Saw a report that indicates that Russians have less than a 4 percent chance of surviving a year on the front. I'm sure it's similar for Ukrainian soldiers.

Speaking of BS...

Russia would have had to have lost their entire army almost twice over for your 4 percent figure to be even remotely possible. Given what we can guess about Russian force size and casualties, its probably more like a 4 percent chance of dying since the start of the SMO.

If you want to see Russian casualties, you can just look here: https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

There was an uptick in October when Russia started pushing on Avdeevka, but it wasn't even 1,000 for the month on all fronts combined.

And surely you must realize that if Russia was losing 1,000 a day there, then they wouldn't be winning that battle.

That's completely false. UK and other intelligence services have independently confirmed a high in daily numbers of Russian casualties near 1000 at Avdiivka. Only 1000 troops lost in Russia in a month is absolute laughable delusion.

Mediazona's info is solely based on info released by or confirmed by Russian government sources. They are greatly undercounting deaths.

They use publicly available documents. When someone dies in this day and age, it creates a paper trail. Mediazona has the names, ranks, date of death and other information. Who do you think they are missing? Can you name an individual you think died but isn't listed? Do you think they are systematically missing people from certain regions, or population groups? Where are the bodies?

Intel agency data is in the "trust me bro" tier. Where do their numbers come from, and what data corroborates their counts? Do you know their methodology? Intelligence agencies produce reports they find useful, not necessarily truthful.

That website states that it is an undercount and “The actual death toll is likely significantly higher. ”

Note that Russia also has a lot of PMC’s, prisoners, and other irregular troops that are not counted. Not to mention militias from the Donbas that are not counted.

Prigozhin said he lost 20k troops just in Bakhmut.

Russia is losing roughly 15,000-20,000 soldiers per month in Ukraine. More lately because of how awful the fighting is in Adviika. Most are mobiks from the hinterlands. The smart ones in Moscow and St. Petersburg all left at the start of the war. There are now huge Russian populations in Indonesia and Turkey.

Technically, Russia can absorb these losses of men. It's a big country. It's their equipment losses that are a problem. Thousands of tanks, not to mention all the armored personnel carriers, artillery etc.

This is a really grim war. You can go to twitter or telegram or reddit and see it all. It's horrible.

I think Ukrainians understand this is going to be a long war. And so they are in soldier preservation mode. They are on defense. Would not expect a major offensive from Ukrainians in the foreseeable future. They're just trying to survive. Ukraine has 44 million people. Russia has 143 million people

We've reached the point where life preservation for Ukrainian soldiers has become pretty important. Russians don't care at all.

Huge numbers of Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut, at Vuhledar, at Avdiivka and many other places. Russia is wasting its future on a war that is causing it massive attrition - even as Russia heads into a crisis of population collapse.

Any estimates that can't address the questions of "what were their names?" and "where are their bodies?" is probably a hoax to some degree.

The people claiming big numbers of Russian dead have a problem with the bodies. Early in the war Ukrainian propaganda at least was talking about mobile crematoriums. Then it devolved into "meat cubes," now they are too lazy to even attempt to solve the body problem. They just act like Russians come out of some cloning lab and despawn when hit.

There's no "body problem" in the narrative. Every single day there are brand new videos coming out showing battlefields and trenches littered with dozens of Russian corpses, just abandoned and left behind to decay and literally fulfil the metaphor of becoming fertilizer for sunflowers. Putin does not care enough about their names to have their bodies recovered and given a proper funeral. And their families back home in Ingushetia or wherever else will just be lied to, told they are still at the front fighting, or ran away and went awol, or maybe if their disappearance drags on long enough, the government will eventually give them a loaf of bread for their troubles. That's just the fact of what's been going on.

So Russia is losing a thousand guys a day in Avdeevka alone, and just leaving the bodies there? And this has been going on for two months? Shouldn't this leave absolute mountains of bodies? Surely you guys have pictures of these mountains right?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt Ukrainians have suffered enormous casualties. Maybe not as bad as Russians, who are losing almost a 1000 a day in places like Avdiivka.



This is a serious war. Saw a report that indicates that Russians have less than a 4 percent chance of surviving a year on the front. I'm sure it's similar for Ukrainian soldiers.

Speaking of BS...

Russia would have had to have lost their entire army almost twice over for your 4 percent figure to be even remotely possible. Given what we can guess about Russian force size and casualties, its probably more like a 4 percent chance of dying since the start of the SMO.

If you want to see Russian casualties, you can just look here: https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

There was an uptick in October when Russia started pushing on Avdeevka, but it wasn't even 1,000 for the month on all fronts combined.

And surely you must realize that if Russia was losing 1,000 a day there, then they wouldn't be winning that battle.

That's completely false. UK and other intelligence services have independently confirmed a high in daily numbers of Russian casualties near 1000 at Avdiivka. Only 1000 troops lost in Russia in a month is absolute laughable delusion.

Mediazona's info is solely based on info released by or confirmed by Russian government sources. They are greatly undercounting deaths.

They use publicly available documents. When someone dies in this day and age, it creates a paper trail. Mediazona has the names, ranks, date of death and other information. Who do you think they are missing? Can you name an individual you think died but isn't listed? Do you think they are systematically missing people from certain regions, or population groups? Where are the bodies?

Intel agency data is in the "trust me bro" tier. Where do their numbers come from, and what data corroborates their counts? Do you know their methodology? Intelligence agencies produce reports they find useful, not necessarily truthful.

That website states that it is an undercount and “The actual death toll is likely significantly higher. ”

Note that Russia also has a lot of PMC’s, prisoners, and other irregular troops that are not counted. Not to mention militias from the Donbas that are not counted.

Prigozhin said he lost 20k troops just in Bakhmut.

Russia is losing roughly 15,000-20,000 soldiers per month in Ukraine. More lately because of how awful the fighting is in Adviika. Most are mobiks from the hinterlands. The smart ones in Moscow and St. Petersburg all left at the start of the war. There are now huge Russian populations in Indonesia and Turkey.

Technically, Russia can absorb these losses of men. It's a big country. It's their equipment losses that are a problem. Thousands of tanks, not to mention all the armored personnel carriers, artillery etc.

This is a really grim war. You can go to twitter or telegram or reddit and see it all. It's horrible.

I think Ukrainians understand this is going to be a long war. And so they are in soldier preservation mode. They are on defense. Would not expect a major offensive from Ukrainians in the foreseeable future. They're just trying to survive. Ukraine has 44 million people. Russia has 143 million people

We've reached the point where life preservation for Ukrainian soldiers has become pretty important. Russians don't care at all.

Huge numbers of Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut, at Vuhledar, at Avdiivka and many other places. Russia is wasting its future on a war that is causing it massive attrition - even as Russia heads into a crisis of population collapse.

Any estimates that can't address the questions of "what were their names?" and "where are their bodies?" is probably a hoax to some degree.

The people claiming big numbers of Russian dead have a problem with the bodies. Early in the war Ukrainian propaganda at least was talking about mobile crematoriums. Then it devolved into "meat cubes," now they are too lazy to even attempt to solve the body problem. They just act like Russians come out of some cloning lab and despawn when hit.

No. You missed the articles about the backed up trucks at the crematoriums. Go back about 200 pages. Now Russia mostly leaves the bodies lying around wherever. Apparently dead Russian soldiers aren't worth wasting the vehicles or fuel to transport back anymore since it's winter and another 4 months before anything is likely done about it. But if you believe that the Russians are 'winning' or that they aren't dying in huge numbers, maybe you can explain where the 25th Combined Arms Army is right now and why they were committed? https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-army-15-000-soldiers-145402713.html

I'm completely at a loss as to what you are implying with the 25th with that article from September. Are you implying that rotating forces is some sort of sign of disaster? Rotations are what any competent army does. You don't leave troops on the front indefinitely to be ground down, unless you are Ukraine which seems to think that's a great plan.

This fatigue factor is a large part of why Russia inflicts such disproportionate casualties and why Ukrainians surrender so easily.

[Anonymous]

Jeez did Biden (Obama) lose another war?

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to the last Ukrainian

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Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt Ukrainians have suffered enormous casualties. Maybe not as bad as Russians, who are losing almost a 1000 a day in places like Avdiivka.



This is a serious war. Saw a report that indicates that Russians have less than a 4 percent chance of surviving a year on the front. I'm sure it's similar for Ukrainian soldiers.

Speaking of BS...

Russia would have had to have lost their entire army almost twice over for your 4 percent figure to be even remotely possible. Given what we can guess about Russian force size and casualties, its probably more like a 4 percent chance of dying since the start of the SMO.

If you want to see Russian casualties, you can just look here: https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

There was an uptick in October when Russia started pushing on Avdeevka, but it wasn't even 1,000 for the month on all fronts combined.

And surely you must realize that if Russia was losing 1,000 a day there, then they wouldn't be winning that battle.

That's completely false. UK and other intelligence services have independently confirmed a high in daily numbers of Russian casualties near 1000 at Avdiivka. Only 1000 troops lost in Russia in a month is absolute laughable delusion.

Mediazona's info is solely based on info released by or confirmed by Russian government sources. They are greatly undercounting deaths.

They use publicly available documents. When someone dies in this day and age, it creates a paper trail. Mediazona has the names, ranks, date of death and other information. Who do you think they are missing? Can you name an individual you think died but isn't listed? Do you think they are systematically missing people from certain regions, or population groups? Where are the bodies?

Intel agency data is in the "trust me bro" tier. Where do their numbers come from, and what data corroborates their counts? Do you know their methodology? Intelligence agencies produce reports they find useful, not necessarily truthful.

That website states that it is an undercount and “The actual death toll is likely significantly higher. ”

Note that Russia also has a lot of PMC’s, prisoners, and other irregular troops that are not counted. Not to mention militias from the Donbas that are not counted.

Prigozhin said he lost 20k troops just in Bakhmut.

Russia is losing roughly 15,000-20,000 soldiers per month in Ukraine. More lately because of how awful the fighting is in Adviika. Most are mobiks from the hinterlands. The smart ones in Moscow and St. Petersburg all left at the start of the war. There are now huge Russian populations in Indonesia and Turkey.

Technically, Russia can absorb these losses of men. It's a big country. It's their equipment losses that are a problem. Thousands of tanks, not to mention all the armored personnel carriers, artillery etc.

This is a really grim war. You can go to twitter or telegram or reddit and see it all. It's horrible.

I think Ukrainians understand this is going to be a long war. And so they are in soldier preservation mode. They are on defense. Would not expect a major offensive from Ukrainians in the foreseeable future. They're just trying to survive. Ukraine has 44 million people. Russia has 143 million people

We've reached the point where life preservation for Ukrainian soldiers has become pretty important. Russians don't care at all.

Huge numbers of Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut, at Vuhledar, at Avdiivka and many other places. Russia is wasting its future on a war that is causing it massive attrition - even as Russia heads into a crisis of population collapse.

Any estimates that can't address the questions of "what were their names?" and "where are their bodies?" is probably a hoax to some degree.

The people claiming big numbers of Russian dead have a problem with the bodies. Early in the war Ukrainian propaganda at least was talking about mobile crematoriums. Then it devolved into "meat cubes," now they are too lazy to even attempt to solve the body problem. They just act like Russians come out of some cloning lab and despawn when hit.

There's no "body problem" in the narrative. Every single day there are brand new videos coming out showing battlefields and trenches littered with dozens of Russian corpses, just abandoned and left behind to decay and literally fulfil the metaphor of becoming fertilizer for sunflowers. Putin does not care enough about their names to have their bodies recovered and given a proper funeral. And their families back home in Ingushetia or wherever else will just be lied to, told they are still at the front fighting, or ran away and went awol, or maybe if their disappearance drags on long enough, the government will eventually give them a loaf of bread for their troubles. That's just the fact of what's been going on.

So Russia is losing a thousand guys a day in Avdeevka alone, and just leaving the bodies there? And this has been going on for two months? Shouldn't this leave absolute mountains of bodies? Surely you guys have pictures of these mountains right?

You really must be a special kind of stupid. They aren't all stacked on top of each other in a mountain, they are spread out over many many kilometers of front. And some of the corpses do get dragged away and buried.

Please stop coming here and repeatedly making a fool of yourself with dumb comments about "absolute mountains of bodies."

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Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt Ukrainians have suffered enormous casualties. Maybe not as bad as Russians, who are losing almost a 1000 a day in places like Avdiivka.



This is a serious war. Saw a report that indicates that Russians have less than a 4 percent chance of surviving a year on the front. I'm sure it's similar for Ukrainian soldiers.

Speaking of BS...

Russia would have had to have lost their entire army almost twice over for your 4 percent figure to be even remotely possible. Given what we can guess about Russian force size and casualties, its probably more like a 4 percent chance of dying since the start of the SMO.

If you want to see Russian casualties, you can just look here: https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

There was an uptick in October when Russia started pushing on Avdeevka, but it wasn't even 1,000 for the month on all fronts combined.

And surely you must realize that if Russia was losing 1,000 a day there, then they wouldn't be winning that battle.

That's completely false. UK and other intelligence services have independently confirmed a high in daily numbers of Russian casualties near 1000 at Avdiivka. Only 1000 troops lost in Russia in a month is absolute laughable delusion.

Mediazona's info is solely based on info released by or confirmed by Russian government sources. They are greatly undercounting deaths.

They use publicly available documents. When someone dies in this day and age, it creates a paper trail. Mediazona has the names, ranks, date of death and other information. Who do you think they are missing? Can you name an individual you think died but isn't listed? Do you think they are systematically missing people from certain regions, or population groups? Where are the bodies?

Intel agency data is in the "trust me bro" tier. Where do their numbers come from, and what data corroborates their counts? Do you know their methodology? Intelligence agencies produce reports they find useful, not necessarily truthful.

That website states that it is an undercount and “The actual death toll is likely significantly higher. ”

Note that Russia also has a lot of PMC’s, prisoners, and other irregular troops that are not counted. Not to mention militias from the Donbas that are not counted.

Prigozhin said he lost 20k troops just in Bakhmut.

Russia is losing roughly 15,000-20,000 soldiers per month in Ukraine. More lately because of how awful the fighting is in Adviika. Most are mobiks from the hinterlands. The smart ones in Moscow and St. Petersburg all left at the start of the war. There are now huge Russian populations in Indonesia and Turkey.

Technically, Russia can absorb these losses of men. It's a big country. It's their equipment losses that are a problem. Thousands of tanks, not to mention all the armored personnel carriers, artillery etc.

This is a really grim war. You can go to twitter or telegram or reddit and see it all. It's horrible.

I think Ukrainians understand this is going to be a long war. And so they are in soldier preservation mode. They are on defense. Would not expect a major offensive from Ukrainians in the foreseeable future. They're just trying to survive. Ukraine has 44 million people. Russia has 143 million people

We've reached the point where life preservation for Ukrainian soldiers has become pretty important. Russians don't care at all.

Huge numbers of Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut, at Vuhledar, at Avdiivka and many other places. Russia is wasting its future on a war that is causing it massive attrition - even as Russia heads into a crisis of population collapse.

Any estimates that can't address the questions of "what were their names?" and "where are their bodies?" is probably a hoax to some degree.

The people claiming big numbers of Russian dead have a problem with the bodies. Early in the war Ukrainian propaganda at least was talking about mobile crematoriums. Then it devolved into "meat cubes," now they are too lazy to even attempt to solve the body problem. They just act like Russians come out of some cloning lab and despawn when hit.

No. You missed the articles about the backed up trucks at the crematoriums. Go back about 200 pages. Now Russia mostly leaves the bodies lying around wherever. Apparently dead Russian soldiers aren't worth wasting the vehicles or fuel to transport back anymore since it's winter and another 4 months before anything is likely done about it. But if you believe that the Russians are 'winning' or that they aren't dying in huge numbers, maybe you can explain where the 25th Combined Arms Army is right now and why they were committed? https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-army-15-000-soldiers-145402713.html

I'm completely at a loss as to what you are implying with the 25th with that article from September. Are you implying that rotating forces is some sort of sign of disaster? Rotations are what any competent army does. You don't leave troops on the front indefinitely to be ground down, unless you are Ukraine which seems to think that's a great plan.

This fatigue factor is a large part of why Russia inflicts such disproportionate casualties and why Ukrainians surrender so easily.

Rotations? Tell that to the families who haven't seen the folks they sent off to fight in Ukraine since the war began. If they are being rotated then why aren't they being able to go home to visit their families?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt Ukrainians have suffered enormous casualties. Maybe not as bad as Russians, who are losing almost a 1000 a day in places like Avdiivka.



This is a serious war. Saw a report that indicates that Russians have less than a 4 percent chance of surviving a year on the front. I'm sure it's similar for Ukrainian soldiers.

Speaking of BS...

Russia would have had to have lost their entire army almost twice over for your 4 percent figure to be even remotely possible. Given what we can guess about Russian force size and casualties, its probably more like a 4 percent chance of dying since the start of the SMO.

If you want to see Russian casualties, you can just look here: https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

There was an uptick in October when Russia started pushing on Avdeevka, but it wasn't even 1,000 for the month on all fronts combined.

And surely you must realize that if Russia was losing 1,000 a day there, then they wouldn't be winning that battle.

That's completely false. UK and other intelligence services have independently confirmed a high in daily numbers of Russian casualties near 1000 at Avdiivka. Only 1000 troops lost in Russia in a month is absolute laughable delusion.

Mediazona's info is solely based on info released by or confirmed by Russian government sources. They are greatly undercounting deaths.

They use publicly available documents. When someone dies in this day and age, it creates a paper trail. Mediazona has the names, ranks, date of death and other information. Who do you think they are missing? Can you name an individual you think died but isn't listed? Do you think they are systematically missing people from certain regions, or population groups? Where are the bodies?

Intel agency data is in the "trust me bro" tier. Where do their numbers come from, and what data corroborates their counts? Do you know their methodology? Intelligence agencies produce reports they find useful, not necessarily truthful.

That website states that it is an undercount and “The actual death toll is likely significantly higher. ”

Note that Russia also has a lot of PMC’s, prisoners, and other irregular troops that are not counted. Not to mention militias from the Donbas that are not counted.

Prigozhin said he lost 20k troops just in Bakhmut.

Russia is losing roughly 15,000-20,000 soldiers per month in Ukraine. More lately because of how awful the fighting is in Adviika. Most are mobiks from the hinterlands. The smart ones in Moscow and St. Petersburg all left at the start of the war. There are now huge Russian populations in Indonesia and Turkey.

Technically, Russia can absorb these losses of men. It's a big country. It's their equipment losses that are a problem. Thousands of tanks, not to mention all the armored personnel carriers, artillery etc.

This is a really grim war. You can go to twitter or telegram or reddit and see it all. It's horrible.

I think Ukrainians understand this is going to be a long war. And so they are in soldier preservation mode. They are on defense. Would not expect a major offensive from Ukrainians in the foreseeable future. They're just trying to survive. Ukraine has 44 million people. Russia has 143 million people

We've reached the point where life preservation for Ukrainian soldiers has become pretty important. Russians don't care at all.

Huge numbers of Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut, at Vuhledar, at Avdiivka and many other places. Russia is wasting its future on a war that is causing it massive attrition - even as Russia heads into a crisis of population collapse.

Any estimates that can't address the questions of "what were their names?" and "where are their bodies?" is probably a hoax to some degree.

The people claiming big numbers of Russian dead have a problem with the bodies. Early in the war Ukrainian propaganda at least was talking about mobile crematoriums. Then it devolved into "meat cubes," now they are too lazy to even attempt to solve the body problem. They just act like Russians come out of some cloning lab and despawn when hit.

No. You missed the articles about the backed up trucks at the crematoriums. Go back about 200 pages. Now Russia mostly leaves the bodies lying around wherever. Apparently dead Russian soldiers aren't worth wasting the vehicles or fuel to transport back anymore since it's winter and another 4 months before anything is likely done about it. But if you believe that the Russians are 'winning' or that they aren't dying in huge numbers, maybe you can explain where the 25th Combined Arms Army is right now and why they were committed? https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-army-15-000-soldiers-145402713.html

I'm completely at a loss as to what you are implying with the 25th with that article from September. Are you implying that rotating forces is some sort of sign of disaster? Rotations are what any competent army does. You don't leave troops on the front indefinitely to be ground down, unless you are Ukraine which seems to think that's a great plan.

This fatigue factor is a large part of why Ukraine inflicts such disproportionate casualties and why Russians surrender so easily.

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