We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Washington County, for example:

https://www.niche.com/k12/d/washington-county-public-schools-md/

They have 24K Students vs 166K students at MCPS.

You cannot even compare the sale of what the two school systems are facing.



Yes you can. Spending per student is lower in Washington County. MCPS has more money, more staff, and more resources.


And more expenses! Payroll is the largest operating expense, and the cost of living in MoCo is more than just a bit higher.

Average Washington Co homes cost 220K; MoCo homes are almost 500K. It's no wonder many MCPS teachers live in Frederick Co!


We haven't seen MCPS say at board meetings that: "We can make this work if we just have $X million more for teacher salaries". Maybe that's all it takes, but they haven't stated that is the hold-up for reopening.


It not about teachers. It's a public health and safety issue. Sacrifitng people to the economy may be okay with the GOP and its followers but most of us think that's foolish.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Washington County, for example:

https://www.niche.com/k12/d/washington-county-public-schools-md/

They have 24K Students vs 166K students at MCPS.

You cannot even compare the sale of what the two school systems are facing.



Yes you can. Spending per student is lower in Washington County. MCPS has more money, more staff, and more resources.


And more expenses! Payroll is the largest operating expense, and the cost of living in MoCo is more than just a bit higher.

Average Washington Co homes cost 220K; MoCo homes are almost 500K. It's no wonder many MCPS teachers live in Frederick Co!


We haven't seen MCPS say at board meetings that: "We can make this work if we just have $X million more for teacher salaries". Maybe that's all it takes, but they haven't stated that is the hold-up for reopening.


It not about teachers. It's a public health and safety issue. Sacrifitng people to the economy may be okay with the GOP and its followers but most of us think that's foolish.


How do you know that "most of us" think that's foolish? I think you're finding yourself in smaller and smaller company each day.
Anonymous
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As Einstein probably didn't say, "insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Perhaps you need to propose a new plan!


Well, no Each testimony has been different.

the first few were about the abundance of studies showing the very limited risk to students. the next were emphasize the collateral damage on student physical, emotional, and mental health. And then the most recent were with ideas on how to re-open.

So I like to think I haven't been repeating myself. When they limit you to only 3 minutes, you have to be concise and focused. Which means you have to defer other points to a future meeting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Washington County, for example:

https://www.niche.com/k12/d/washington-county-public-schools-md/

They have 24K Students vs 166K students at MCPS.

You cannot even compare the sale of what the two school systems are facing.



Yes you can. Spending per student is lower in Washington County. MCPS has more money, more staff, and more resources.


And more expenses! Payroll is the largest operating expense, and the cost of living in MoCo is more than just a bit higher.

Average Washington Co homes cost 220K; MoCo homes are almost 500K. It's no wonder many MCPS teachers live in Frederick Co!


We haven't seen MCPS say at board meetings that: "We can make this work if we just have $X million more for teacher salaries". Maybe that's all it takes, but they haven't stated that is the hold-up for reopening.


It not about teachers. It's a public health and safety issue. Sacrifitng people to the economy may be okay with the GOP and its followers but most of us think that's foolish.


How do you know that "most of us" think that's foolish? I think you're finding yourself in smaller and smaller company each day.


Yup, and that's why MCPS needs a survey or a census. They need to know the will of the people.
Anonymous
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Off-topic, I am the PP that shared my plan and have testified at the last 6 board meetings.

I am always so impressed with the students that submit testimony and advocate on behalf of themselves and their peers. Especially the students that are brave enough to call out mistakes or bad behavior by the teachers (like the student that testified his teachers were skipping office hours, leaving him with open questions on his assignments).

As a teenager, I'm not sure I would have had the courage or conviction to testify to a government body. I admire your child's conviction and courage at such a young age.

Good work


PP, my advice (that you didn't ask for) is: find somebody else. After 6 board meetings, it doesn't matter what you're saying, the reaction is just going to be, "Oh, it's Larla X again."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Off-topic, I am the PP that shared my plan and have testified at the last 6 board meetings.

I am always so impressed with the students that submit testimony and advocate on behalf of themselves and their peers. Especially the students that are brave enough to call out mistakes or bad behavior by the teachers (like the student that testified his teachers were skipping office hours, leaving him with open questions on his assignments).

As a teenager, I'm not sure I would have had the courage or conviction to testify to a government body. I admire your child's conviction and courage at such a young age.

Good work


PP, my advice (that you didn't ask for) is: find somebody else. After 6 board meetings, it doesn't matter what you're saying, the reaction is just going to be, "Oh, it's Larla X again."


No one is named Larla. No one.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Off-topic, I am the PP that shared my plan and have testified at the last 6 board meetings.

I am always so impressed with the students that submit testimony and advocate on behalf of themselves and their peers. Especially the students that are brave enough to call out mistakes or bad behavior by the teachers (like the student that testified his teachers were skipping office hours, leaving him with open questions on his assignments).

As a teenager, I'm not sure I would have had the courage or conviction to testify to a government body. I admire your child's conviction and courage at such a young age.

Good work


PP, my advice (that you didn't ask for) is: find somebody else. After 6 board meetings, it doesn't matter what you're saying, the reaction is just going to be, "Oh, it's Larla X again."


No one is named Larla. No one.


Couldn't agree more. Fully. But for some reason, nobody wants to go on record. I've begged with friends to testify, but tbh, they are afraid that they will be labeled 'Trumpers' or that they think their children's teachers will view and think poorly of them.

Its sad. Our world is so polarized that people are afraid to put their name next to a opinion as uncontroversial as "I think kids should be in school"

But I'm probably going to sit the next one out. Or maybe I'll chime in on that hotly debated wi-fi brain scrambling topic that has been discussed in public testimony the last two weeks (j/k)
Anonymous
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It not about teachers. It's a public health and safety issue. Sacrifitng people to the economy may be okay with the GOP and its followers but most of us think that's foolish.


Right on!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Washington County, for example:

https://www.niche.com/k12/d/washington-county-public-schools-md/

They have 24K Students vs 166K students at MCPS.

You cannot even compare the sale of what the two school systems are facing.



Yes you can. Spending per student is lower in Washington County. MCPS has more money, more staff, and more resources.


And more expenses! Payroll is the largest operating expense, and the cost of living in MoCo is more than just a bit higher.

Average Washington Co homes cost 220K; MoCo homes are almost 500K. It's no wonder many MCPS teachers live in Frederick Co!


We haven't seen MCPS say at board meetings that: "We can make this work if we just have $X million more for teacher salaries". Maybe that's all it takes, but they haven't stated that is the hold-up for reopening.


It not about teachers. It's a public health and safety issue. Sacrifitng people to the economy may be okay with the GOP and its followers but most of us think that's foolish.


How do you know that "most of us" think that's foolish? I think you're finding yourself in smaller and smaller company each day.


Yup, and that's why MCPS needs a survey or a census. They need to know the will of the people.


There have been a couple pro-open protests but only 3 or 4 people showed up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Washington County, for example:

https://www.niche.com/k12/d/washington-county-public-schools-md/

They have 24K Students vs 166K students at MCPS.

You cannot even compare the sale of what the two school systems are facing.



Yes you can. Spending per student is lower in Washington County. MCPS has more money, more staff, and more resources.


And more expenses! Payroll is the largest operating expense, and the cost of living in MoCo is more than just a bit higher.

Average Washington Co homes cost 220K; MoCo homes are almost 500K. It's no wonder many MCPS teachers live in Frederick Co!


We haven't seen MCPS say at board meetings that: "We can make this work if we just have $X million more for teacher salaries". Maybe that's all it takes, but they haven't stated that is the hold-up for reopening.


It not about teachers. It's a public health and safety issue. Sacrifitng people to the economy may be okay with the GOP and its followers but most of us think that's foolish.


How do you know that "most of us" think that's foolish? I think you're finding yourself in smaller and smaller company each day.


Yup, and that's why MCPS needs a survey or a census. They need to know the will of the people.


There have been a couple pro-open protests but only 3 or 4 people showed up.


I think it was closer to 10

But with SO much of life returned to normal, its difficult for people to make a protest at 3:00 on a workday. We shouldn't a failed rally to reflect the will of the county
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

I think it was closer to 10

But with SO much of life returned to normal, its difficult for people to make a protest at 3:00 on a workday. We shouldn't a failed rally to reflect the will of the county


SO much of life returned to normal, huh?

It's always hard to for people to make a protest at 3:00 pm on a workday, which kinda raises the question: what fools would decide that 3:00 pm on a workday was a good time to have a protest?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Couldn't agree more. Fully. But for some reason, nobody wants to go on record. I've begged with friends to testify, but tbh, they are afraid that they will be labeled 'Trumpers' or that they think their children's teachers will view and think poorly of them.

Its sad. Our world is so polarized that people are afraid to put their name next to a opinion as uncontroversial as "I think kids should be in school"

But I'm probably going to sit the next one out. Or maybe I'll chime in on that hotly debated wi-fi brain scrambling topic that has been discussed in public testimony the last two weeks (j/k)


This suggests that "I think kids should be in school" is not actually an uncontroversial opinion, doesn't it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Off-topic, I am the PP that shared my plan and have testified at the last 6 board meetings.

I am always so impressed with the students that submit testimony and advocate on behalf of themselves and their peers. Especially the students that are brave enough to call out mistakes or bad behavior by the teachers (like the student that testified his teachers were skipping office hours, leaving him with open questions on his assignments).

As a teenager, I'm not sure I would have had the courage or conviction to testify to a government body. I admire your child's conviction and courage at such a young age.

Good work


PP, my advice (that you didn't ask for) is: find somebody else. After 6 board meetings, it doesn't matter what you're saying, the reaction is just going to be, "Oh, it's Larla X again."


No one is named Larla. No one.


Don't be silly, everyone on DCUM is named Larla.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It not about teachers. It's a public health and safety issue. Sacrifitng people to the economy may be okay with the GOP and its followers but most of us think that's foolish.


Right on!


Which part is right? Virtually everything in the PP is wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I think it was closer to 10

But with SO much of life returned to normal, its difficult for people to make a protest at 3:00 on a workday. We shouldn't a failed rally to reflect the will of the county


SO much of life returned to normal, huh?

It's always hard to for people to make a protest at 3:00 pm on a workday, which kinda raises the question: what fools would decide that 3:00 pm on a workday was a good time to have a protest?


Well, yeah, so much has. Outside of schools, most everything has returned in some capacity. What else hasn't?
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