Who has said that they are good parents? The points have been: 1. It's not neglect to let your child walk home from the park. 2. It's ridiculous that society has evidently come to believe that it is neglect to let your child walk home from the park. 3. There is no reason to believe that the parents are neglecting their children (except insofar as you believe that letting a child walk home from the park is neglect). 4. CPS messed up here. |
It's good that they are suing. I found this below to be concerning:
From the link above: "Well the policeman said we will give you a ride home when we were like two blocks away. So we got into the car and then about two and half hours later, instead he brang us here," Rafi Meitiv said, referring to CPS. According to the Meitiv's lawyers, the police demanded that the children get into a police car. The children told police they wanted to call home, but police did not allow them to call. The agency did not contact the Meitiv's for three hours, leaving the parents frantically searching for their missing children. |
Actually that too is incorrect. In fact anything that has to do with kids makes the news. We hear of crimes with children internationally that we would not if it was an adult. These 24hr news stations cater to the paranoid. More kids die in cars and in their homes supervised than alone. Kids that are abducted know their predator 73% of the time. Crimes with children in playgrounds playing together with no parents and getting snatched by a stranger? They are very hard to come by. |
Guess what - I can teach my children to be self sufficient without needing to force my 6 year old to wander past abandoned parking garages and homeless people alone, and cross dangerous intersections without assistance. These parents have no sense of proportion or sense. The lawsuit will demonstrate that the police acted reasonably in response to finding two young children alone in a risky area. |
BINGO |
PREACH!!!!!!! |
Why do you think that the six-year-old was forced to do these things? What makes you conclude that it's a risky area -- have you been there? And it's not an abandoned parking garage. |
You're making a lot of generalizations and assumptions. You're assuming, first, that the story the parents present is the entire story. I don't assume that. Second, your statement that "it's not neglect to let your child walk home from the park" is obviously overly general. If I let my 4 year old walk home alone from the park, that's neglect. I think if I let my 6 year old walk home alone from the park, that would also be neglect, but that might depend on how far the park is, the maturity level of the kid, etc. If I let my 8 year old walk home alone from the park, I don't think that's neglect, and neither does CPS. So let's be clear on how awful this nanny state really is. They agree if the kid is 8, it's all good. Your disagreement is on where that line is (somewhere between 4 and 8, probably -- you'd say closer to 4 and I'd say closer to 8). I don't know whether the parents are neglecting their children in other ways, but I do know that two separate people have reported these kids (according to that Fox news story that said the most recent reporter didn't know the kids). That to me says there's something worth investigating. That's what CPS did. And the police report, while certainly not definitive, raises the issue of the kids being spotted in/near the garage and for long enough that the person reporting it called and when the police came the kids were still there. That's not consistent with the story of the kids walking home from the park -- at the very least there was some dawdling near a parking garage with a homeless guy. If my kids were doing that, I would want a police officer to check it out and get them out of that situation. I'd of course want him to then bring them home to me. But they can't do that, because once the report has happened, they have to do their due diligence to make sure the place they're returning the kids to is safe for the kids. Your conclusion, that CPS messed up, isn't determined. You would have to know a lot more about this situation before you decide that. The may have, they may not have. |
Simmer down helicopter. Last time I checked it is okay to walk past parking garages and homeless people are not criminals. The fact that you see two kids walking home from a park without a parent is now neglect is the whole reason why CPS feels they can justify their actions even know there is no law broken. Pretty soon we will be exactly where you helicopters want the kids to be. Like Wall-E. Stuck to chairs watching screens "safe" from any harm. If you think it was okay for you to walk alone at these ages when you were a kid and it is not now, how much more paranoid can we get in 20 more years when we are grandparents. Will you have to be 18yrs old to watch a sibling? 21yrs old to be by yourself? Will latchkey kids be completely illegal. All kids until high school need after-care? Does any of this sound ridiculous? Because I am 100% sure if you asked our parents 20-30yrs ago about what is going on today, they would think you were crazy. |
You can properly supervise and support your kids and teach them life skills. I am sick of the whole so called helicopter parwnt criticism industry. Kids thrive with emotional support and attention. While they may become more independent if you ignore them, it comes at a huge emotional cost. Just witness these Meitev parents, who care more about their internet parenting theories than actually protecting their kids from further problems. If they are so wedded to having a free range six year old they need to move to a small town. |
The 10 year old's report is different from the police officer's report. So, you get to choose which to believe. |
First off, they don't look like me. Second, I think they are good parents because I used to do the same when I was a kid and I now do the same with my kids. I think they (my kids) are better off for it. Stop generalizing to prove a point that can not be proven. |
No. Most of the time the bad stuff that happens to unsupervised kids doesn't even get reported. But most of it happens to people you don't know and no one cares about. |
They are in a car with a stranger, whom others have said could not really be part of the police, and their family had recently been harassed by police and the CPS. |
Sadly, I would believe a kid over a police report every day of the week. |