Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority

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Anonymous wrote:I don't need or want every evening to be relaxing and devoid of work. You really need hours every night to just hang around?

Yes! Sounds fantastic to me. We would all do it if we could. Look at Europeans.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't need or want every evening to be relaxing and devoid of work. You really need hours every night to just hang around?

Yes! Sounds fantastic to me. We would all do it if we could. Look at Europeans.

+1 I love my 2 hrs of down time every night.

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Anonymous wrote:From way back: I think the way puppy mills and the shady rescue organizations work is that the "expected donation" you make when you "rescue" a dog from one of these rescues gets funneled back to the puppy mills with percentages taken out along the way. Go to a random rescue fair, how many times are you vaguely told that some dog came from "some" rescue in the south somewhere? I think they are routed though shady nonprofit to shady nonprofit until they get to wealthy areas.

People who are blindly smug about rescuing drive me nuts. There are some good rescue organizations but many aren't.

I don't have all the details, but friends of mine in South Carolina are part of a underground for rescuing dogs. They said so many of the shelters are kill ones, and there's so much backyard breeding, that the rescues further north rely on volunteers who each move the dogs up the coast to no kill rescues.

Yes, that goes on too.

I think basically a lot of people who are patting themselves on the back for "rescuing" are essentially subsidizing puppy mills and backyard breeders. Plus, as another PP pointed out, the same people don't seem to have much trouble eating factory farmed meat.

I think this whole idea about rescue organizations subsidizing puppy mills is a conspiracy for people to feel better about adopting breeder dogs. The only rescue dogs I've ever had have been full on mutts (like hound dog mixes) that no puppy mill is trying to breed. And I used to live in the south. Tons of people do not spay/neuter down there, so it's not surprising a lot of rescues come from down there. Also, pretty much everyone I know with rescue dogs tends to be more educated than people I know with breeder dogs. Think along the lines of highly educated, top-tier attorneys who are vegetarians or actually go out to local farms to stock their freezer with free range meat. I know some first time dog owners living in hicksville who thought they'd be all fancy and get a breeder golden and now post on facebook with #goldensofinstagram a million times a day like it's some status symbol to have a purebred dog. They are incredibly unhealthy, overweight, and are the ones who eat factory farm garbage.

I'm sure they're not the standard, but it goes to show you these stupid stereotypes about rescue people filtering money to puppy mills and eating in humanely treated meat is not necessarily true for all or most rescuers.

Rescuing a mutt doesn't mean you're not subsidizing backyard breeders. Honestly, use a little logic. Where do you think this supply of convenient dogs comes from? I don't care if you adopt a rescue dog, just don't think you're more ethical than somebody who goes to an ethical breeder and don't go around crowing about your "rescue" and how awesome you are. I just am so tired of the blind bragging of the "rescue" crowd when it's obvious with even the slightest bit of investigation what's going on with so many of these shady "rescues."

I'm seriously trying to understand this logic. So backyard breeders are breeding mutts to give away to rescues? There
Is seriously no logic to this. I did a dog DNA test and my dog came back with at least 7 different, very random breeds of all different sizes. Who exactly is breeding all these random types of dogs together and trying to sell them? Don't get me wrong -- I love my dog, but he's not exactly something you'd go pay top dollar for if you care about lineage.

Backyard breeders don't exist just to sell purebreds. They breed all sorts of mutts for a variety of reasons, including for dog fighting, bait dogs, "how cute they'd be," carelessness, etc.

Is this fact or just something you believe? I would love to see some cites to this or hear from someone who has actually worked for a rescue group and seen this happen. And even if rescues are taking in some puppies who have been abandoned by backyard breeders, I doubt they are looking to subsidize these breeders so they can stay in business -- most rescues are non-profits and with the number of dogs being euthanized in this country every year, I cannot imagine rescue groups face any shortage of dogs. You make it sound like there are kickbacks or something, which is just strange. At the end of the day, these unwanted puppies need homes and it should be on law enforcement to shut these puppy mills down.

Your statements still seem like a conspiracy to me. If you want to buy a dog, that is your right. Stop trying to make yourself feel better by creating stories about how adopting a rescue is just lining the pockets of puppy mills.

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Also, what are we supposed to do with all the "leftover" dogs from puppy mills? Just let them rot in the wild and die? I'm happy if a rescue group is trying to find homes for these unwanted dogs. Maybe it's not fixing the long term problem of puppy mills, but the rescues certainly aren't aiding these puppy mills so they can get a "convenient" supply of dogs.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe most working mom's wish they were SAHM. I think they are usually jealous.

I think the reverse.

Wouldn't they get a job if that was the case?

No, because they've rendered themselves irrelevant and convince themselves that their kids benefit from their laziness. What's more hypocritical than the SAHM of a daughter who pushes her kid to excel academically?

SAHMs are lazy, but spending your day sitting at a computer trolling dcum takes lots of energy?

I am a SAHM with 3 kids in school all day. It's 11:30am in my area. So far, I have made my kids breakfast, packed their lunch and taken them to school. I spent about 45 minutes volunteering in my son's class. I went for a jog, did 2 loads of laundry, and a load of dishes. then I paid the bills. Dinner is in the crock-pot. Getting ready to shower and then heading to a meeting for a volunteer committee that I chair. Then I will pick up my kids, as well as the neighbor kids since I will baby sit them until their mom gets home from work. With all that done, our evening will run smoothly. I will have no problem finding time to take my daughter to the library to do some research for a school project. Then I will enjoy reading with my son. After that, I will enjoy a glass of wine and Netflix with DH.

Enjoy your stressful, frantic evening with your family, PP.

Who do you think fed my kids breakfast, packed their lunches (last night) and took them to school (DH?) I then worked out from 8-830. Bills are paid online and I check them once a week.

I'll then work a full day, pick up my kids at 5, make a leisurely dinner and hang out with my kids and husband.

So you did dishes (my DH handles that) and did some laundry, beyond what I did today (and I refuse to believe you do that volunteer work anywhere near daily unless it's the most intensive volunteer job on earth).

I know you'd like to think WOHMs can't do all you do (which really isn't much, BTW) and contribute productively to society too, but we just can. Especially with a DH who does his fair share around the house, since I'm his partner, not his housekeeper.

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Anonymous wrote:1. I think infertile women are some of the most rotten, selfish people alive.

2. I don't like gummy candy.

What in the actual fuck? You realize infertility is not a choice, right?

Of course it isn't (unless it only involves the other partner). Their attitude, however, is absolutely a choice.

What attitude is that? What makes an infertile woman "rotten and selfish"?

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Anonymous wrote:I think women that have 3 + babies back to back are just too lazy to lose the baby weight and like the attention being pregnant gets them.

No, it just gets them out of the paid workforce longer....

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Anonymous wrote:I don't need or want every evening to be relaxing and devoid of work. You really need hours every night to just hang around?

Yes! Sounds fantastic to me. We would all do it if we could. Look at Europeans.

I could, but I'd be bored. I was bored by about 4 pm yesterday because it was my third day off work in a row. Unless you watch hours and hours of TV or are normally sleep deprived, I can't imagine giving up a stimulating, well paying career for evening downtime.

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Anonymous wrote:1. Don't care about infertility struggles.
2. Don't care about doormats who won't DO something to
address their problems.
3. Tired of the SN Trump Card.

NP here. I am enraged by all the free stuff SN parents get that have nothing to do withy their child's SN. I can kinda see the free PT/OT/Speech maybe, but my very wealthy friend also gets FOR FREE from the county: preschool withh bus service, 42 hours/week nanny, Medicaid and food stamps. FOR FREE. And the nanny does her laundry and watches her NT kids too!!

Uh, wha? Food stamps is a means-based program, as is Medicaid -- if they are indeed "very wealthy" then they wouldn't be eligible for those programs. And I've never heard of a free nanny, no way. Maybe an aid in the classroom? If her child is eligible for a free special needs preschool and full-time aid, you shouldn't be enraged or envious...it means her child is quite disabled.

It's all true. The means test for Medicaid/food stamps is done ON THE KID, who has no assets. All his copays and RX's are paid by Medicaid, and his food is bought with food stamps. In addition to preschool five days a week, his mom is allowed 42 hours of nanny care paid. She does not work, has two NT kids, lives in a 6000sf house and drives a large luxury SUV. Her SN child walks, talks, eats, and is potty trained, he is just delayed pretty significantly. I don't see why she needs a tax payer paid nanny because of that.

I'm somewhat skeptical about all this. For a disabled child to get on Medicaid, they generally have to qualify for SSI (needs based benefits based on family income). A wealthy family will not qualify. I am under the impression most social programs use household income/assets, not just the child. If her child is qualifying for a full time nanny/aide, it sounds like the child must be pretty severely disabled, which is sad. And I say this as someone who can't stand people who try to abuse the system.

+1 I think you've got some of your information wrong on this one.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't need or want every evening to be relaxing and devoid of work. You really need hours every night to just hang around?

Yes! Sounds fantastic to me. We would all do it if we could. Look at Europeans.

I could, but I'd be bored. I was bored by about 4 pm yesterday because it was my third day off work in a row. Unless you watch hours and hours of TV or are normally sleep deprived, I can't imagine giving up a stimulating, well paying career for evening downtime.

You sound boring. I'm a np, with no horse in this race of sahm/wohm. How can anyone be bored with downtime in such a busy world. So many books, so much music to discover, so many things to take an interest in. I'm a painter and work 55-60 hrs a week . I'd way rather be making art and taking hikes and relaxing with loved ones. I'm glad you love your career, but it seems sad that you're ability to be so easily bored is making you miss out on life.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe most working mom's wish they were SAHM. I think they are usually jealous.

I think the reverse.

Wouldn't they get a job if that was the case?

No, because they've rendered themselves irrelevant and convince themselves that their kids benefit from their laziness. What's more hypocritical than the SAHM of a daughter who pushes her kid to excel academically?

SAHMs are lazy, but spending your day sitting at a computer trolling dcum takes lots of energy?

I am a SAHM with 3 kids in school all day. It's 11:30am in my area. So far, I have made my kids breakfast, packed their lunch and taken them to school. I spent about 45 minutes volunteering in my son's class. I went for a jog, did 2 loads of laundry, and a load of dishes. then I paid the bills. Dinner is in the crock-pot. Getting ready to shower and then heading to a meeting for a volunteer committee that I chair. Then I will pick up my kids, as well as the neighbor kids since I will baby sit them until their mom gets home from work. With all that done, our evening will run smoothly. I will have no problem finding time to take my daughter to the library to do some research for a school project. Then I will enjoy reading with my son. After that, I will enjoy a glass of wine and Netflix with DH.

Enjoy your stressful, frantic evening with your family, PP.

Who do you think fed my kids breakfast, packed their lunches (last night) and took them to school (DH?) I then worked out from 8-830. Bills are paid online and I check them once a week.

I'll then work a full day, pick up my kids at 5, make a leisurely dinner and hang out with my kids and husband.

So you did dishes (my DH handles that) and did some laundry, beyond what I did today (and I refuse to believe you do that volunteer work anywhere near daily unless it's the most intensive volunteer job on earth).

I know you'd like to think WOHMs can't do all you do (which really isn't much, BTW) and contribute productively to society too, but we just can. Especially with a DH who does his fair share around the house, since I'm his partner, not his housekeeper.

I never said you couldn't do it all. Good for you! Ok, my comment about your stressful evening was snarky, but my point was that my day was not exactly lazy. i also never said that I volunteer every day. I go twice a week. Tomorrow I am painting a room, meeting a friend for lunch, and then working on my booth at an antique mall.

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Anonymous wrote:1. Don't care about infertility struggles.
2. Don't care about doormats who won't DO something to
address their problems.
3. Tired of the SN Trump Card.

I too am tired of the SN Trump Card. Those people in wheelchairs who want to be able to go to the movies, sit in the spots for wheelchairs, and have their companions or parents sit next to them--what assholes! I like to sit in those spots because I like to be that precise distance from the screen and have space to store my bag in the wheelchair spot.

Parents of kids with autism who bring them to family-friendly restaurants and playgrounds even though the kids might flail their arms around or make unusual sounds--how annoying! I prefer to not have my field of vision polluted by people acting atypical.

Those kids who have a hard time in school so their parents get them tested to see if they have learning disabilities--I don't like this either! When I was growing up, kids who didn't do well in school just flunked out. Why do today's kids deserve any better?



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Anonymous wrote:1. Don't care about infertility struggles.
2. Don't care about doormats who won't DO something to
address their problems.
3. Tired of the SN Trump Card.

I too am tired of the SN Trump Card. Those people in wheelchairs who want to be able to go to the movies, sit in the spots for wheelchairs, and have their companions or parents sit next to them--what assholes! I like to sit in those spots because I like to be that precise distance from the screen and have space to store my bag in the wheelchair spot.

Parents of kids with autism who bring them to family-friendly restaurants and playgrounds even though the kids might flail their arms around or make unusual sounds--how annoying! I prefer to not have my field of vision polluted by people acting atypical.

Those kids who have a hard time in school so their parents get them tested to see if they have learning disabilities--I don't like this either! When I was growing up, kids who didn't do well in school just flunked out. Why do today's kids deserve any better?



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I agree with you.

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You think we shouldn't have spaces for wheelchairs, testing for developmental disabilities and fuck autistic children, make them stay locked up at home? Seriously?

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Anonymous wrote:Also, what are we supposed to do with all the "leftover" dogs from puppy mills? Just let them rot in the wild and die? I'm happy if a rescue group is trying to find homes for these unwanted dogs. Maybe it's not fixing the long term problem of puppy mills, but the rescues certainly aren't aiding these puppy mills so they can get a "convenient" supply of dogs.

My unpopular opinion: people who give animal life the exact same level of importance have mental problems. There is a thing we can do with excess animals: put them down. Sometimes that's the best thing.

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Anonymous wrote:1. Don't care about infertility struggles.
2. Don't care about doormats who won't DO something to
address their problems.
3. Tired of the SN Trump Card.

I too am tired of the SN Trump Card. Those people in wheelchairs who want to be able to go to the movies, sit in the spots for wheelchairs, and have their companions or parents sit next to them--what assholes! I like to sit in those spots because I like to be that precise distance from the screen and have space to store my bag in the wheelchair spot.

Parents of kids with autism who bring them to family-friendly restaurants and playgrounds even though the kids might flail their arms around or make unusual sounds--how annoying! I prefer to not have my field of vision polluted by people acting atypical.

Those kids who have a hard time in school so their parents get them tested to see if they have learning disabilities--I don't like this either! When I was growing up, kids who didn't do well in school just flunked out. Why do today's kids deserve any better?



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I agree with you.

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You think we shouldn't have spaces for wheelchairs, testing for developmental disabilities and fuck autistic children, make them stay locked up at home? Seriously?

Can you read, honey?