Taylor Swift album Tortured Poets Department leaked early?

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, so is Cruel Summer about Matty Healy and not Joe??

No, it's about when she was cheating on Tom Hiddleston with Joe.

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Anonymous wrote:I think so weird how people are like I can’t relate to what she’s singing about, why is she still singing about Break ups and falling in love? Those times are so fleeting in our lives that sometimes a good song like that reminds you what it’s like to be “Down Bad” and bring back those feelings of nostalgia. If not that we relate to it now, but it brings up old feelings and that’s not necessarily a bad thing!

Those times are clearly not fleeting in Taylor’s life. They have been a constant since she was a teen.

If people acted normal about Taylor, none of this would be a topic. It’s the crazy obsession that is bizarre. It’s the death threats and threats of violence sent to article writer who critique her. It’s the hyperventilating and crying over seeing a glimpse of her. It’s the insane amounts of money people pay and debt they will go into just to see a show. It isn’t healthy. It’s adults obsessed with a singer to the point that they lose all rational thought.

There are many worst things To be addicted to. I will take a Taylor Swift addicted America over alternatives.

I could not disagree more. You could be addicted to exercise (ie train for the Iron Man). Or in the case of Taylor’s target audience, you could be addicted to doing your homework and achieving. You could be addicted to cleaning or cooking or reading or knitting or playing the piano or swimming or basketball. I can think of a million better addictions than obsessing over Taylor Swift.

Being fascinated with such a mediocre talent is precisely what is ruining America.

Yet here you are, as captivated as anyone else. Joke’s on you.

Not really, the more people talk about how much they don’t like her, the less financing she’ll get for that next album. Eventually she will fade away.

Yesterday her record hit 500 million streams in one day, the fastest for any artist in history. This doesn’t even account for the sales of physical media. She’s currently still on her tour which will ultimately end up being the highest grossing of all time. She is not going anywhere, you’re just a bitter hag.

Because of the internet, any musician today has a bigger world market than the ones from before. A tween in China or Russia can stream Taylor, but their parents/grandparents couldn’t buy a Beatles record or a Michael Jackson single. Those things weren’t for sale, so you can’t really compare her sales to anyone, but other musicians today.

Also, because of the internet, gone are the days of managers and agents scanning clubs and local venues for talent. There’s no point, their songs will end up free on YouTube and their managers won’t make money. They are not looking for the best singers anymore. Instead, they’re make money on the very few who have connections and more importantly FINANCING so that the record label can get paid and they can all keep their houses and cars, etc.

Taylor Swift is one of those lucky few, financed and marketed to the extreme, but she lacks real talent. Sure, a talented musician can now post on YouTube, too, but who is going to see them without the marketing? You might as well sing in the streets.

Worse than the fact that the managers and record labels won’t look for talented musicians anymore, they actively prevent them from reaching wider audiences, because actual talent makes the pre-packaged, well financed musicians they’ve backed (ie Taylor) look like the sh-t that they are in comparison.

I’m not old, but you are right, I am am bitter, bitter that my grandparents had Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry, while I’m repeatedly forced to listen to the cat in Heat voice of Taylor every time I leave the house.

But all things are cyclical and eventually a true talent will somehow break through.

Taylor will go away. It’s just a matter of time.

NP. There’s this thing now where you can just stream whatever you want to listen to, and not stream whatever you don’t want to listen to. You can listen to Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry all day and night if you want to.

Um yeah, but I’d like to hear new talented young musicians that are alive today. Unfortunately, Big Bankers and Hedge funders have put their money on Taylor, so I can’t access new talented musicians, since they aren’t being financed and marketed.

We had a great system for finding talent, but it’s been obliterated and now we have Taylor. I’m a capitalist, but Marx was write about some things.

Uh…okay? You’re the one who specifically brought up those older, dead artists.

And it’s easier in 2024 than ever before to access new musicians. Just go on Spotify. You can even set your account to never play songs from Taylor.

It’s actually much harder to access new musicians for the casual listener. Before the managers and the record labels would do all the work by prescreening and only signing the top talent. Now, the audience has to do all the work hard and listen to a lot of garbage to maybe hear someone good. No thanks.

The same goes for merchandise buyers in stores. Before they’d pick out nice clothes, with good materials to the taste of a certain demographic shoppers who went to their store. Now, I have to look through millions of pictures of clothes I can’t touch to try to see what may or may not be nice. And even if I pick a good dress, I can’t try it on to see if it fits me.

You know what? I liked having the middle man. Now, I have to pay the same amount or more for everything and now I have to find and test it.

And don’t get me started on Netflix. I miss the stations managers who made a tv lineup.

Having lots of choices isn’t that great when most of the choices are garbage and you have to filter through it to find the good stuff.

Less is more!

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, so is Cruel Summer about Matty Healy and not Joe??

No, it's about when she was cheating on Tom Hiddleston with Joe.

Oh! Yikes, I can't keep up

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Anonymous wrote:I think so weird how people are like I can’t relate to what she’s singing about, why is she still singing about Break ups and falling in love? Those times are so fleeting in our lives that sometimes a good song like that reminds you what it’s like to be “Down Bad” and bring back those feelings of nostalgia. If not that we relate to it now, but it brings up old feelings and that’s not necessarily a bad thing!

Those times are clearly not fleeting in Taylor’s life. They have been a constant since she was a teen.

If people acted normal about Taylor, none of this would be a topic. It’s the crazy obsession that is bizarre. It’s the death threats and threats of violence sent to article writer who critique her. It’s the hyperventilating and crying over seeing a glimpse of her. It’s the insane amounts of money people pay and debt they will go into just to see a show. It isn’t healthy. It’s adults obsessed with a singer to the point that they lose all rational thought.

There are many worst things To be addicted to. I will take a Taylor Swift addicted America over alternatives.

I could not disagree more. You could be addicted to exercise (ie train for the Iron Man). Or in the case of Taylor’s target audience, you could be addicted to doing your homework and achieving. You could be addicted to cleaning or cooking or reading or knitting or playing the piano or swimming or basketball. I can think of a million better addictions than obsessing over Taylor Swift.

Being fascinated with such a mediocre talent is precisely what is ruining America.

Yet here you are, as captivated as anyone else. Joke’s on you.

Not really, the more people talk about how much they don’t like her, the less financing she’ll get for that next album. Eventually she will fade away.

Yesterday her record hit 500 million streams in one day, the fastest for any artist in history. This doesn’t even account for the sales of physical media. She’s currently still on her tour which will ultimately end up being the highest grossing of all time. She is not going anywhere, you’re just a bitter hag.

Because of the internet, any musician today has a bigger world market than the ones from before. A tween in China or Russia can stream Taylor, but their parents/grandparents couldn’t buy a Beatles record or a Michael Jackson single. Those things weren’t for sale, so you can’t really compare her sales to anyone, but other musicians today.

Also, because of the internet, gone are the days of managers and agents scanning clubs and local venues for talent. There’s no point, their songs will end up free on YouTube and their managers won’t make money. They are not looking for the best singers anymore. Instead, they’re make money on the very few who have connections and more importantly FINANCING so that the record label can get paid and they can all keep their houses and cars, etc.

Taylor Swift is one of those lucky few, financed and marketed to the extreme, but she lacks real talent. Sure, a talented musician can now post on YouTube, too, but who is going to see them without the marketing? You might as well sing in the streets.

Worse than the fact that the managers and record labels won’t look for talented musicians anymore, they actively prevent them from reaching wider audiences, because actual talent makes the pre-packaged, well financed musicians they’ve backed (ie Taylor) look like the sh-t that they are in comparison.

I’m not old, but you are right, I am am bitter, bitter that my grandparents had Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry, while I’m repeatedly forced to listen to the cat in Heat voice of Taylor every time I leave the house.

But all things are cyclical and eventually a true talent will somehow break through.

Taylor will go away. It’s just a matter of time.

Five paragraphs?? Anyway stay mad

I’m a lawyer. I write five paragraphs in my sleep and wrote that post on the toilet while doing you know what while thinking of Taylor. It was the time ever I found her work to be “inspiring.”

Typical lawyer

Don't lump us all in with that embarrassment ...

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Anonymous wrote:I think so weird how people are like I can’t relate to what she’s singing about, why is she still singing about Break ups and falling in love? Those times are so fleeting in our lives that sometimes a good song like that reminds you what it’s like to be “Down Bad” and bring back those feelings of nostalgia. If not that we relate to it now, but it brings up old feelings and that’s not necessarily a bad thing!

Those times are clearly not fleeting in Taylor’s life. They have been a constant since she was a teen.

If people acted normal about Taylor, none of this would be a topic. It’s the crazy obsession that is bizarre. It’s the death threats and threats of violence sent to article writer who critique her. It’s the hyperventilating and crying over seeing a glimpse of her. It’s the insane amounts of money people pay and debt they will go into just to see a show. It isn’t healthy. It’s adults obsessed with a singer to the point that they lose all rational thought.

There are many worst things To be addicted to. I will take a Taylor Swift addicted America over alternatives.

I could not disagree more. You could be addicted to exercise (ie train for the Iron Man). Or in the case of Taylor’s target audience, you could be addicted to doing your homework and achieving. You could be addicted to cleaning or cooking or reading or knitting or playing the piano or swimming or basketball. I can think of a million better addictions than obsessing over Taylor Swift.

Being fascinated with such a mediocre talent is precisely what is ruining America.

Yet here you are, as captivated as anyone else. Joke’s on you.

Not really, the more people talk about how much they don’t like her, the less financing she’ll get for that next album. Eventually she will fade away.

Yesterday her record hit 500 million streams in one day, the fastest for any artist in history. This doesn’t even account for the sales of physical media. She’s currently still on her tour which will ultimately end up being the highest grossing of all time. She is not going anywhere, you’re just a bitter hag.

Because of the internet, any musician today has a bigger world market than the ones from before. A tween in China or Russia can stream Taylor, but their parents/grandparents couldn’t buy a Beatles record or a Michael Jackson single. Those things weren’t for sale, so you can’t really compare her sales to anyone, but other musicians today.

Also, because of the internet, gone are the days of managers and agents scanning clubs and local venues for talent. There’s no point, their songs will end up free on YouTube and their managers won’t make money. They are not looking for the best singers anymore. Instead, they’re make money on the very few who have connections and more importantly FINANCING so that the record label can get paid and they can all keep their houses and cars, etc.

Taylor Swift is one of those lucky few, financed and marketed to the extreme, but she lacks real talent. Sure, a talented musician can now post on YouTube, too, but who is going to see them without the marketing? You might as well sing in the streets.

Worse than the fact that the managers and record labels won’t look for talented musicians anymore, they actively prevent them from reaching wider audiences, because actual talent makes the pre-packaged, well financed musicians they’ve backed (ie Taylor) look like the sh-t that they are in comparison.

I’m not old, but you are right, I am am bitter, bitter that my grandparents had Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry, while I’m repeatedly forced to listen to the cat in Heat voice of Taylor every time I leave the house.

But all things are cyclical and eventually a true talent will somehow break through.

Taylor will go away. It’s just a matter of time.

NP. There’s this thing now where you can just stream whatever you want to listen to, and not stream whatever you don’t want to listen to. You can listen to Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry all day and night if you want to.

Um yeah, but I’d like to hear new talented young musicians that are alive today. Unfortunately, Big Bankers and Hedge funders have put their money on Taylor, so I can’t access new talented musicians, since they aren’t being financed and marketed.

We had a great system for finding talent, but it’s been obliterated and now we have Taylor. I’m a capitalist, but Marx was write about some things.

Uh…okay? You’re the one who specifically brought up those older, dead artists.

And it’s easier in 2024 than ever before to access new musicians. Just go on Spotify. You can even set your account to never play songs from Taylor.

It’s actually much harder to access new musicians for the casual listener. Before the managers and the record labels would do all the work by prescreening and only signing the top talent. Now, the audience has to do all the work hard and listen to a lot of garbage to maybe hear someone good. No thanks.

The same goes for merchandise buyers in stores. Before they’d pick out nice clothes, with good materials to the taste of a certain demographic shoppers who went to their store. Now, I have to look through millions of pictures of clothes I can’t touch to try to see what may or may not be nice. And even if I pick a good dress, I can’t try it on to see if it fits me.

You know what? I liked having the middle man. Now, I have to pay the same amount or more for everything and now I have to find and test it.

And don’t get me started on Netflix. I miss the stations managers who made a tv lineup.

Having lots of choices isn’t that great when most of the choices are garbage and you have to filter through it to find the good stuff.

Less is more!

You truly have a hard life. Must be rough being you. It's all just so so hard.

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Anonymous wrote:I think so weird how people are like I can’t relate to what she’s singing about, why is she still singing about Break ups and falling in love? Those times are so fleeting in our lives that sometimes a good song like that reminds you what it’s like to be “Down Bad” and bring back those feelings of nostalgia. If not that we relate to it now, but it brings up old feelings and that’s not necessarily a bad thing!

Those times are clearly not fleeting in Taylor’s life. They have been a constant since she was a teen.

If people acted normal about Taylor, none of this would be a topic. It’s the crazy obsession that is bizarre. It’s the death threats and threats of violence sent to article writer who critique her. It’s the hyperventilating and crying over seeing a glimpse of her. It’s the insane amounts of money people pay and debt they will go into just to see a show. It isn’t healthy. It’s adults obsessed with a singer to the point that they lose all rational thought.

There are many worst things To be addicted to. I will take a Taylor Swift addicted America over alternatives.

I could not disagree more. You could be addicted to exercise (ie train for the Iron Man). Or in the case of Taylor’s target audience, you could be addicted to doing your homework and achieving. You could be addicted to cleaning or cooking or reading or knitting or playing the piano or swimming or basketball. I can think of a million better addictions than obsessing over Taylor Swift.

Being fascinated with such a mediocre talent is precisely what is ruining America.

Yet here you are, as captivated as anyone else. Joke’s on you.

Not really, the more people talk about how much they don’t like her, the less financing she’ll get for that next album. Eventually she will fade away.

Yesterday her record hit 500 million streams in one day, the fastest for any artist in history. This doesn’t even account for the sales of physical media. She’s currently still on her tour which will ultimately end up being the highest grossing of all time. She is not going anywhere, you’re just a bitter hag.

Because of the internet, any musician today has a bigger world market than the ones from before. A tween in China or Russia can stream Taylor, but their parents/grandparents couldn’t buy a Beatles record or a Michael Jackson single. Those things weren’t for sale, so you can’t really compare her sales to anyone, but other musicians today.

Also, because of the internet, gone are the days of managers and agents scanning clubs and local venues for talent. There’s no point, their songs will end up free on YouTube and their managers won’t make money. They are not looking for the best singers anymore. Instead, they’re make money on the very few who have connections and more importantly FINANCING so that the record label can get paid and they can all keep their houses and cars, etc.

Taylor Swift is one of those lucky few, financed and marketed to the extreme, but she lacks real talent. Sure, a talented musician can now post on YouTube, too, but who is going to see them without the marketing? You might as well sing in the streets.

Worse than the fact that the managers and record labels won’t look for talented musicians anymore, they actively prevent them from reaching wider audiences, because actual talent makes the pre-packaged, well financed musicians they’ve backed (ie Taylor) look like the sh-t that they are in comparison.

I’m not old, but you are right, I am am bitter, bitter that my grandparents had Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry, while I’m repeatedly forced to listen to the cat in Heat voice of Taylor every time I leave the house.

But all things are cyclical and eventually a true talent will somehow break through.

Taylor will go away. It’s just a matter of time.

NP. There’s this thing now where you can just stream whatever you want to listen to, and not stream whatever you don’t want to listen to. You can listen to Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry all day and night if you want to.

Um yeah, but I’d like to hear new talented young musicians that are alive today. Unfortunately, Big Bankers and Hedge funders have put their money on Taylor, so I can’t access new talented musicians, since they aren’t being financed and marketed.

We had a great system for finding talent, but it’s been obliterated and now we have Taylor. I’m a capitalist, but Marx was write about some things.

Uh…okay? You’re the one who specifically brought up those older, dead artists.

And it’s easier in 2024 than ever before to access new musicians. Just go on Spotify. You can even set your account to never play songs from Taylor.

It’s actually much harder to access new musicians for the casual listener. Before the managers and the record labels would do all the work by prescreening and only signing the top talent. Now, the audience has to do all the work hard and listen to a lot of garbage to maybe hear someone good. No thanks.

The same goes for merchandise buyers in stores. Before they’d pick out nice clothes, with good materials to the taste of a certain demographic shoppers who went to their store. Now, I have to look through millions of pictures of clothes I can’t touch to try to see what may or may not be nice. And even if I pick a good dress, I can’t try it on to see if it fits me.

You know what? I liked having the middle man. Now, I have to pay the same amount or more for everything and now I have to find and test it.

And don’t get me started on Netflix. I miss the stations managers who made a tv lineup.

Having lots of choices isn’t that great when most of the choices are garbage and you have to filter through it to find the good stuff.

Less is more!

You are a genius

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Anonymous wrote:She was obviously with MH for quite awhile given they were exchanging I Love Yous in public. Probably together a few months at least to reach that stage. These are adults in their 30s, not middle schoolers.

I think her first public I Love Yous to Travis were about 6 months in?

So cheating on Joe?

Seems like it. Obviously no way to confirm but given she has cheated on other partners, it also wouldn't be surprising.

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Anonymous wrote:I think so weird how people are like I can’t relate to what she’s singing about, why is she still singing about Break ups and falling in love? Those times are so fleeting in our lives that sometimes a good song like that reminds you what it’s like to be “Down Bad” and bring back those feelings of nostalgia. If not that we relate to it now, but it brings up old feelings and that’s not necessarily a bad thing!

Those times are clearly not fleeting in Taylor’s life. They have been a constant since she was a teen.

If people acted normal about Taylor, none of this would be a topic. It’s the crazy obsession that is bizarre. It’s the death threats and threats of violence sent to article writer who critique her. It’s the hyperventilating and crying over seeing a glimpse of her. It’s the insane amounts of money people pay and debt they will go into just to see a show. It isn’t healthy. It’s adults obsessed with a singer to the point that they lose all rational thought.

There are many worst things To be addicted to. I will take a Taylor Swift addicted America over alternatives.

I could not disagree more. You could be addicted to exercise (ie train for the Iron Man). Or in the case of Taylor’s target audience, you could be addicted to doing your homework and achieving. You could be addicted to cleaning or cooking or reading or knitting or playing the piano or swimming or basketball. I can think of a million better addictions than obsessing over Taylor Swift.

Being fascinated with such a mediocre talent is precisely what is ruining America.

Yet here you are, as captivated as anyone else. Joke’s on you.

Not really, the more people talk about how much they don’t like her, the less financing she’ll get for that next album. Eventually she will fade away.

Yesterday her record hit 500 million streams in one day, the fastest for any artist in history. This doesn’t even account for the sales of physical media. She’s currently still on her tour which will ultimately end up being the highest grossing of all time. She is not going anywhere, you’re just a bitter hag.

Because of the internet, any musician today has a bigger world market than the ones from before. A tween in China or Russia can stream Taylor, but their parents/grandparents couldn’t buy a Beatles record or a Michael Jackson single. Those things weren’t for sale, so you can’t really compare her sales to anyone, but other musicians today.

Also, because of the internet, gone are the days of managers and agents scanning clubs and local venues for talent. There’s no point, their songs will end up free on YouTube and their managers won’t make money. They are not looking for the best singers anymore. Instead, they’re make money on the very few who have connections and more importantly FINANCING so that the record label can get paid and they can all keep their houses and cars, etc.

Taylor Swift is one of those lucky few, financed and marketed to the extreme, but she lacks real talent. Sure, a talented musician can now post on YouTube, too, but who is going to see them without the marketing? You might as well sing in the streets.

Worse than the fact that the managers and record labels won’t look for talented musicians anymore, they actively prevent them from reaching wider audiences, because actual talent makes the pre-packaged, well financed musicians they’ve backed (ie Taylor) look like the sh-t that they are in comparison.

I’m not old, but you are right, I am am bitter, bitter that my grandparents had Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry, while I’m repeatedly forced to listen to the cat in Heat voice of Taylor every time I leave the house.

But all things are cyclical and eventually a true talent will somehow break through.

Taylor will go away. It’s just a matter of time.

This is why I pay for Spotify. It suggests great people to me I have NEVER heard on the radio in my life, and who are 1000 times than the usual average suspects winning awards constantly like Taylor Swift.

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The Bitter Lawyer on this thread is the new Brunch Granny.

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Anonymous wrote:She was obviously with MH for quite awhile given they were exchanging I Love Yous in public. Probably together a few months at least to reach that stage. These are adults in their 30s, not middle schoolers.

I think her first public I Love Yous to Travis were about 6 months in?

So cheating on Joe?

Seems like it. Obviously no way to confirm but given she has cheated on other partners, it also wouldn't be surprising.

It seems like she and Joe were off and on and when she was “out of the slammer” she would go back to MH..

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Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.

It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him

I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.

Eh, I just read an article that Joe made several million bucks off of Taylor‘s albums that he co-wrote some of the songs during lockdown.

It’s hard to feel too sorry for him. He knew what he was getting into dating the absolute number one pop star on earth. They got together in 2017. She was an absolute global phenomenon at that point. She had a phase where she backed off the public for a while but come on. They dated during her reputation tour, which was huge.

I’m sure he’s not complaining about the residuals he will get the rest of his life.

I think the issue is he is a Trump supporter and her fans were disappointed she would date him especially after her progressive Lover album.

By calling them vipers, she definitely making a bold claim about her man and her politics. The rumor before the Lover album was Taylor was Republican because she didn’t support Hillary in 2016 and stayed mum the entire election season.

She should’ve never done the virtue signaling and stayed apolitical. Calling her fans vipers because they didn’t like her MAGA boyfriend is hilarious . Taylor is unintentionally funny to me

So are all just gonna ignore this crazy post?
No one wanna comment in this?

Ok I don’t find it crazy. I think Daddy I love him is about her fans.
She calls her fans vipers and something about sanctimony and empaths.
Maybe she is MAGA, she clearly was madly in love with a racist.

Matty Healy is very liberal and not at all a racist. He was on some talk show while high and laughed nervously at something stupid and insensitive the radio show host said. That doesn’t make him a racist.
Stop reading gossip sites.
Daddy I Live Him is about people like you actually.

According to the gossip site, NBC, there were many more comments than just the Ice Spice thing.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/matty-healy-1975-controversy-comments-ice-spice-rcna86858

I don’t care if Taylor calls me a Viper, she shouldn’t either as we still buy the downloads for my kids, so I’m still contributing to her overall billionaire status.

Many critics also believe Daddy I love him is about fans, but if you can’t handle that, or think it doesn’t apply to YOU, I get it.

Ir doesn’t. I don’t judge people for why they date and I TOTALLY get why she was so smitten by him. I like the 1975s and have followed them over the years. Matty is smart and sexy.

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Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.

It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him

I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.

Eh, I just read an article that Joe made several million bucks off of Taylor‘s albums that he co-wrote some of the songs during lockdown.

It’s hard to feel too sorry for him. He knew what he was getting into dating the absolute number one pop star on earth. They got together in 2017. She was an absolute global phenomenon at that point. She had a phase where she backed off the public for a while but come on. They dated during her reputation tour, which was huge.

I’m sure he’s not complaining about the residuals he will get the rest of his life.

I think the issue is he is a Trump supporter and her fans were disappointed she would date him especially after her progressive Lover album.

By calling them vipers, she definitely making a bold claim about her man and her politics. The rumor before the Lover album was Taylor was Republican because she didn’t support Hillary in 2016 and stayed mum the entire election season.

She should’ve never done the virtue signaling and stayed apolitical. Calling her fans vipers because they didn’t like her MAGA boyfriend is hilarious . Taylor is unintentionally funny to me

So are all just gonna ignore this crazy post?
No one wanna comment in this?

Ok I don’t find it crazy. I think Daddy I love him is about her fans.
She calls her fans vipers and something about sanctimony and empaths.
Maybe she is MAGA, she clearly was madly in love with a racist.

Matty Healy is very liberal and not at all a racist. He was on some talk show while high and laughed nervously at something stupid and insensitive the radio show host said. That doesn’t make him a racist.
Stop reading gossip sites.
Daddy I Live Him is about people like you actually.

According to the gossip site, NBC, there were many more comments than just the Ice Spice thing.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/matty-healy-1975-controversy-comments-ice-spice-rcna86858

I don’t care if Taylor calls me a Viper, she shouldn’t either as we still buy the downloads for my kids, so I’m still contributing to her overall billionaire status.

Many critics also believe Daddy I love him is about fans, but if you can’t handle that, or think it doesn’t apply to YOU, I get it.

Ir doesn’t. I don’t judge people for why they date and I TOTALLY get why she was so smitten by him. I like the 1975s and have followed them over the years. Matty is smart and sexy.

If he was amazing to her, which her fans think she truly deserves, it would have worked out. The truly truly sad part is, it wasn't "Daddy" that tore them apart, he literally just ghosted her. Didn't even break up with her. Just stranded her. So you're welcome Taylor.

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But I knew you’d linger like a tattoo kiss
I knew you’d haunt all of my what if’s
The smell of smoke would hang around…

Matty has tattoos and smokes.

Cruel Summer:
Bad, bad boy shiny toy with a price
He looks up grinning like a devil
And I snuck in through the garden gate just to seal my fate
I don’t wanna keep secrets
And it’s new, the feeling (years after being with her bf)

Ain’t no way Joe fits that song either.

Tay Tay been pining after and singing about the tattooed golden retriever for years it would appear. Matty Healy, possibly the greatest secret muse in the history of modern day music! She did a number on her fans, didn’t she?

The One and Can I ask you a question are also both Matty inspired.

On Tour, she replaced "invisible string" with The One when she broke it off with Joe.

In her Boston concert, right before she sang The One she said this is the happiest she has ever been in her entire life.
I also think Death By A Thousand Cuts and Dancing With Our Hands Tied are about Matty.

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Anonymous wrote:I think so weird how people are like I can’t relate to what she’s singing about, why is she still singing about Break ups and falling in love? Those times are so fleeting in our lives that sometimes a good song like that reminds you what it’s like to be “Down Bad” and bring back those feelings of nostalgia. If not that we relate to it now, but it brings up old feelings and that’s not necessarily a bad thing!

Those times are clearly not fleeting in Taylor’s life. They have been a constant since she was a teen.

If people acted normal about Taylor, none of this would be a topic. It’s the crazy obsession that is bizarre. It’s the death threats and threats of violence sent to article writer who critique her. It’s the hyperventilating and crying over seeing a glimpse of her. It’s the insane amounts of money people pay and debt they will go into just to see a show. It isn’t healthy. It’s adults obsessed with a singer to the point that they lose all rational thought.

There are many worst things To be addicted to. I will take a Taylor Swift addicted America over alternatives.

I could not disagree more. You could be addicted to exercise (ie train for the Iron Man). Or in the case of Taylor’s target audience, you could be addicted to doing your homework and achieving. You could be addicted to cleaning or cooking or reading or knitting or playing the piano or swimming or basketball. I can think of a million better addictions than obsessing over Taylor Swift.

Being fascinated with such a mediocre talent is precisely what is ruining America.

Yet here you are, as captivated as anyone else. Joke’s on you.

Not really, the more people talk about how much they don’t like her, the less financing she’ll get for that next album. Eventually she will fade away.

Yesterday her record hit 500 million streams in one day, the fastest for any artist in history. This doesn’t even account for the sales of physical media. She’s currently still on her tour which will ultimately end up being the highest grossing of all time. She is not going anywhere, you’re just a bitter hag.

Because of the internet, any musician today has a bigger world market than the ones from before. A tween in China or Russia can stream Taylor, but their parents/grandparents couldn’t buy a Beatles record or a Michael Jackson single. Those things weren’t for sale, so you can’t really compare her sales to anyone, but other musicians today.

Also, because of the internet, gone are the days of managers and agents scanning clubs and local venues for talent. There’s no point, their songs will end up free on YouTube and their managers won’t make money. They are not looking for the best singers anymore. Instead, they’re make money on the very few who have connections and more importantly FINANCING so that the record label can get paid and they can all keep their houses and cars, etc.

Taylor Swift is one of those lucky few, financed and marketed to the extreme, but she lacks real talent. Sure, a talented musician can now post on YouTube, too, but who is going to see them without the marketing? You might as well sing in the streets.

Worse than the fact that the managers and record labels won’t look for talented musicians anymore, they actively prevent them from reaching wider audiences, because actual talent makes the pre-packaged, well financed musicians they’ve backed (ie Taylor) look like the sh-t that they are in comparison.

I’m not old, but you are right, I am am bitter, bitter that my grandparents had Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry, while I’m repeatedly forced to listen to the cat in Heat voice of Taylor every time I leave the house.

But all things are cyclical and eventually a true talent will somehow break through.

Taylor will go away. It’s just a matter of time.

Five paragraphs?? Anyway stay mad

I’m a lawyer. I write five paragraphs in my sleep and wrote that post on the toilet while doing you know what while thinking of Taylor. It was the time ever I found her work to be “inspiring.”

Typical lawyer

Don't lump us all in with that embarrassment ...

My bad

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As always, I'm very impressed that she's able to write these complicated, interesting lyrics. But at the same time, it's such a word dump! I love TS but as another poster said, I feel she's really becoming overexposed. How many albums does she need to put out? And the constant revenge/pining theme isn't healthy for young girls to internalize.

I disagree. I’m 48 and only now getting in touch with my rage as a woman. I was taught to be a real people pleaser, always be glass half full, and I stuffed so much inside and I don’t think that’s healthy. Maybe it’s not healthy to go too far the other way, but I think her generation is trying to balance some of that and I appreciate it.

I mean, look at what is happening in our own country with women’s rights. I think it’s OK for girls to internalize some bad stuff, it’s not sunshine and roses.

I’m 47 and Alanis, Tori and Sinead were my musical rage women. I agree that women need to be in touch with their anger, but they also need to learn to speak it, and act on it (not with aggression, but as a sign that their rights/beliefs are being violated in some way). I don’t think Taylor does the second part well. She can point out her rage and then sit on stage in front of her fans giving a glitter sparkle performance in a mask. The singers of our generation were better about being honest about their feelings on and off the stage.

Sure, maybe not. Taylor is definitely not Alanis. But she is who she is and fans seem to be responding and rather than pick it apart and try to force her to be what she’s not it’s so curious why people can’t let it be. I just don’t remember people picking apart alanis Morissette or any of the other artists you just named. They were who they were and their genre is their genre and yet we want Taylor to be everything to everybody when she’s not, we get really up in arms about it. It’s very strange.

Taylor is angry but not angry enough. She writes great pop songs but they don’t appeal to everyone like middle aged men so she’s failed because great pops songs should be universal I guess.

She writes about heartbreak but she writes TOO MUCH about heartbreak.

Just from the last dozen posts alone I gather this.

You really need to watch the Sinead O’Connor documentary because.. The fact that you said you don’t remember people picking our part clearly you don’t know who she is.

Of course I remember Sinead. You missed my point. Were people picking her apart because she wrote too much about heartbreak? Or any other reason that people pick Taylor apart?

It was all political… You know this is totally different. Don’t be dense.

Sinead was crucified for tearing a picture of the Pope. And the world at that time, and many still don’t know, the Catholic Church forced unwed mothers to have their children adopted.

https://sojo.net/articles/decades-churches-forced-unwed-mothers-adoptions

To be clear, she tore up a picture of the pope that was hanging in her mother‘s room after her mother supported the church after finding out they had raped her.