Indictment Monday?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A line has been crossed, and a precedent set.

You will regret this, dems.

We will take our chances.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A line has been crossed, and a precedent set.

You will regret this, dems.


Good luck storming FBI offices with your nail gun.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:A line has been crossed, and a precedent set.

You will regret this, dems.

We will take our chances.



Be careful! PP might poop in the Capitol Rotunda.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A line has been crossed, and a precedent set.

You will regret this, dems.


Donald Trump has been committing crimes his entire adult life and getting away with it. He should not be able to hide behind a Presidency.

The precedent is "no one is above the law". It's a good one.


Now what you are insinuating, is that the GOP will make up crimes to prosecute Dems with. This would not surprise me. They have been making up crimes and prosecuting Dems with them in the court of public opinion for all of my lifetime.

GOP have always played dirty.
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Anonymous wrote:I think it was very calculated that the “boring” state tax fraud case was the one that Trump was indicted for. He’s been indicted for actions he took as a private citizen - not a president and not a former president. Biden’s DOJ is not involved at all. A grand jury in the state of New York decided to indict based on the evidence before them.

This is an action state grand juries across the country take on a regular routine basis.

If anything, this signals the strength of our democracy and the rule of law.


I don’t believe this to be true. I think, unfortunately, this was the reverse of democracy, i.e. give me the man, and I’ll find you the crime. It’s not surprising to me at all, given this DA has let a lot of violent criminals essentially free to hurt others again.


Love the MAGA talking points here re: the DA. But what are you going to do when the evidence shows he committed the crimes beyond a reasonable doubt? No one made up these crimes to play a game of gotcha with Trump. TWO people have been convicted of crimes related to this. Neither had as much to benefit as Trump himself.


Remember the pee tapes (Lordy there are tapes)? Please produce. Remember the Steele dossier that even Steele himself was just barroom talk?

Pelosi said Trump has to prove his innocence. Agree?


Do you understand that Michael Cohen and Allen Weisselberg are, or have been, in jail because of this crime? The same one that there is an "Individual 1" who, as described in the previous indictments and sentencing documents are obviously Trump? I mean, if Trump's DOJ put Cohen behind bars for this, then why should Trump face court and possible jail as well?


Should Trump have to prove his innocence? Yes or no


Given ALL the corruption and lying we've seen from him - yes, he should have to prove his innocence to the public

In a court of law, the prosecution must prove his guilt

Do you not get that distinction?


Pelosi evidently believes he has to prove his innocence in a court of law. Not surprising, really. We all knew she has difficulty grasping legal issues.



And you are mincing words. Innocent until presumed guilty and if you win your trial, people assume you have proven your innocence.

Unless you are OJ.
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Anonymous wrote:I think it was very calculated that the “boring” state tax fraud case was the one that Trump was indicted for. He’s been indicted for actions he took as a private citizen - not a president and not a former president. Biden’s DOJ is not involved at all. A grand jury in the state of New York decided to indict based on the evidence before them.

This is an action state grand juries across the country take on a regular routine basis.

If anything, this signals the strength of our democracy and the rule of law.


I don’t believe this to be true. I think, unfortunately, this was the reverse of democracy, i.e. give me the man, and I’ll find you the crime. It’s not surprising to me at all, given this DA has let a lot of violent criminals essentially free to hurt others again.


Love the MAGA talking points here re: the DA. But what are you going to do when the evidence shows he committed the crimes beyond a reasonable doubt? No one made up these crimes to play a game of gotcha with Trump. TWO people have been convicted of crimes related to this. Neither had as much to benefit as Trump himself.


Remember the pee tapes (Lordy there are tapes)? Please produce. Remember the Steele dossier that even Steele himself was just barroom talk?

Pelosi said Trump has to prove his innocence. Agree?


Do you understand that Michael Cohen and Allen Weisselberg are, or have been, in jail because of this crime? The same one that there is an "Individual 1" who, as described in the previous indictments and sentencing documents are obviously Trump? I mean, if Trump's DOJ put Cohen behind bars for this, then why should Trump face court and possible jail as well?


Do you understand that Cohen went to prison for other crimes? Do some research.
He pleaded guilty to other crimes that probably weren't really crimes at all. They attached those "crimes" in order to go after Trump down the road.
Interesting that the DOJ passed on the "crimes" that Bragg is evidently pursuing. If indeed, these are the "crimes" in the indictment, I believe even judges in deep blue NYC will see that this is a political prosecution and throw out the charges. And, if they don't, it sure will be fun to see (or hear about) Michael Cohen as a witness. The convicted liar.

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Anonymous wrote:I read on The Post that he is supposed to turn himself in on 4 April. Am I the only that is skeptical he will actually go through with it? I feel like he says he will but at the last minute, refuses to leave FL.


Then he will be extradited (and no, DeSantis has no discretion here and plays no real role) and the Marshals will drag him out in handcuffs.

Can you explain the DeSantis angle a bit more? What he said was really worrying.


The Constitution requires states to honor each others extradition orders. Federal law does as well. If DeSantis doesn’t sign, it will quickly be ordered by a Court. No wiggle room. It could cause a week or so delay.
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Anonymous wrote:I think it was very calculated that the “boring” state tax fraud case was the one that Trump was indicted for. He’s been indicted for actions he took as a private citizen - not a president and not a former president. Biden’s DOJ is not involved at all. A grand jury in the state of New York decided to indict based on the evidence before them.

This is an action state grand juries across the country take on a regular routine basis.

If anything, this signals the strength of our democracy and the rule of law.


I don’t believe this to be true. I think, unfortunately, this was the reverse of democracy, i.e. give me the man, and I’ll find you the crime. It’s not surprising to me at all, given this DA has let a lot of violent criminals essentially free to hurt others again.


Love the MAGA talking points here re: the DA. But what are you going to do when the evidence shows he committed the crimes beyond a reasonable doubt? No one made up these crimes to play a game of gotcha with Trump. TWO people have been convicted of crimes related to this. Neither had as much to benefit as Trump himself.


Remember the pee tapes (Lordy there are tapes)? Please produce. Remember the Steele dossier that even Steele himself was just barroom talk?

Pelosi said Trump has to prove his innocence. Agree?


Do you understand that Michael Cohen and Allen Weisselberg are, or have been, in jail because of this crime? The same one that there is an "Individual 1" who, as described in the previous indictments and sentencing documents are obviously Trump? I mean, if Trump's DOJ put Cohen behind bars for this, then why should Trump face court and possible jail as well?


Do you understand that Cohen went to prison for other crimes? Do some research.
He pleaded guilty to other crimes that probably weren't really crimes at all. They attached those "crimes" in order to go after Trump down the road.
Interesting that the DOJ passed on the "crimes" that Bragg is evidently pursuing. If indeed, these are the "crimes" in the indictment, I believe even judges in deep blue NYC will see that this is a political prosecution and throw out the charges. And, if they don't, it sure will be fun to see (or hear about) Michael Cohen as a witness. The convicted liar.

So was Cohen’s conviction for lying a “real” crime or one that “probably wasn’t a real crime at all”?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it was very calculated that the “boring” state tax fraud case was the one that Trump was indicted for. He’s been indicted for actions he took as a private citizen - not a president and not a former president. Biden’s DOJ is not involved at all. A grand jury in the state of New York decided to indict based on the evidence before them.

This is an action state grand juries across the country take on a regular routine basis.

If anything, this signals the strength of our democracy and the rule of law.


I don’t believe this to be true. I think, unfortunately, this was the reverse of democracy, i.e. give me the man, and I’ll find you the crime. It’s not surprising to me at all, given this DA has let a lot of violent criminals essentially free to hurt others again.


Love the MAGA talking points here re: the DA. But what are you going to do when the evidence shows he committed the crimes beyond a reasonable doubt? No one made up these crimes to play a game of gotcha with Trump. TWO people have been convicted of crimes related to this. Neither had as much to benefit as Trump himself.


Remember the pee tapes (Lordy there are tapes)? Please produce. Remember the Steele dossier that even Steele himself was just barroom talk?

Pelosi said Trump has to prove his innocence. Agree?


Do you understand that Michael Cohen and Allen Weisselberg are, or have been, in jail because of this crime? The same one that there is an "Individual 1" who, as described in the previous indictments and sentencing documents are obviously Trump? I mean, if Trump's DOJ put Cohen behind bars for this, then why should Trump face court and possible jail as well?


Should Trump have to prove his innocence? Yes or no


Legally, the state has the burden of proof. Technically, he can put on no defense and prove nothing and be found not guilty.

Here in the real world if he doesn’t present a defense with evidence of innocences, he can get used to stainless steel toilets.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it was very calculated that the “boring” state tax fraud case was the one that Trump was indicted for. He’s been indicted for actions he took as a private citizen - not a president and not a former president. Biden’s DOJ is not involved at all. A grand jury in the state of New York decided to indict based on the evidence before them.

This is an action state grand juries across the country take on a regular routine basis.

If anything, this signals the strength of our democracy and the rule of law.


I don’t believe this to be true. I think, unfortunately, this was the reverse of democracy, i.e. give me the man, and I’ll find you the crime. It’s not surprising to me at all, given this DA has let a lot of violent criminals essentially free to hurt others again.


Love the MAGA talking points here re: the DA. But what are you going to do when the evidence shows he committed the crimes beyond a reasonable doubt? No one made up these crimes to play a game of gotcha with Trump. TWO people have been convicted of crimes related to this. Neither had as much to benefit as Trump himself.


Remember the pee tapes (Lordy there are tapes)? Please produce. Remember the Steele dossier that even Steele himself was just barroom talk?

Pelosi said Trump has to prove his innocence. Agree?


Do you understand that Michael Cohen and Allen Weisselberg are, or have been, in jail because of this crime? The same one that there is an "Individual 1" who, as described in the previous indictments and sentencing documents are obviously Trump? I mean, if Trump's DOJ put Cohen behind bars for this, then why should Trump face court and possible jail as well?


Do you understand that Cohen went to prison for other crimes? Do some research.
He pleaded guilty to other crimes that probably weren't really crimes at all. They attached those "crimes" in order to go after Trump down the road.
Interesting that the DOJ passed on the "crimes" that Bragg is evidently pursuing. If indeed, these are the "crimes" in the indictment, I believe even judges in deep blue NYC will see that this is a political prosecution and throw out the charges. And, if they don't, it sure will be fun to see (or hear about) Michael Cohen as a witness. The convicted liar.



LOL usually it’s conservatives accusing liberals of being soft on crime.

Apparently the GOP thinks their members should be able to get away with breaking the law, that when Republicans break the law it’s “political” to prosecute them.

How does that work? Why are GOPers immune from the consequences of law breaking?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A line has been crossed, and a precedent set.

You will regret this, dems.


OMG you're sooo scary..
Jesus.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:someone ins freaking out



Wow. Off the deep end.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A line has been crossed, and a precedent set.

You will regret this, dems.


Donald Trump has been committing crimes his entire adult life and getting away with it. He should not be able to hide behind a Presidency.

The precedent is "no one is above the law". It's a good one.


Now what you are insinuating, is that the GOP will make up crimes to prosecute Dems with. This would not surprise me. They have been making up crimes and prosecuting Dems with them in the court of public opinion for all of my lifetime.

GOP have always played dirty.


BUTTER E-MAILS! BENGHAZZZIIIIIII! The blue dress!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it was very calculated that the “boring” state tax fraud case was the one that Trump was indicted for. He’s been indicted for actions he took as a private citizen - not a president and not a former president. Biden’s DOJ is not involved at all. A grand jury in the state of New York decided to indict based on the evidence before them.

This is an action state grand juries across the country take on a regular routine basis.

If anything, this signals the strength of our democracy and the rule of law.


I don’t believe this to be true. I think, unfortunately, this was the reverse of democracy, i.e. give me the man, and I’ll find you the crime. It’s not surprising to me at all, given this DA has let a lot of violent criminals essentially free to hurt others again.


Love the MAGA talking points here re: the DA. But what are you going to do when the evidence shows he committed the crimes beyond a reasonable doubt? No one made up these crimes to play a game of gotcha with Trump. TWO people have been convicted of crimes related to this. Neither had as much to benefit as Trump himself.


Remember the pee tapes (Lordy there are tapes)? Please produce. Remember the Steele dossier that even Steele himself was just barroom talk?

Pelosi said Trump has to prove his innocence. Agree?


Do you understand that Michael Cohen and Allen Weisselberg are, or have been, in jail because of this crime? The same one that there is an "Individual 1" who, as described in the previous indictments and sentencing documents are obviously Trump? I mean, if Trump's DOJ put Cohen behind bars for this, then why should Trump face court and possible jail as well?


Should Trump have to prove his innocence? Yes or no


No he can plead guilty if he chooses.

Or he can choose not to address the charges and let the prosecutors do all the talking to make their case against him and he is free not to refute what they lay out.

No one should be forced to refute charges against them if they don’t want to.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A line has been crossed, and a precedent set.

You will regret this, dems.


Donald Trump has been committing crimes his entire adult life and getting away with it. He should not be able to hide behind a Presidency.

The precedent is "no one is above the law". It's a good one.


Now what you are insinuating, is that the GOP will make up crimes to prosecute Dems with. This would not surprise me. They have been making up crimes and prosecuting Dems with them in the court of public opinion for all of my lifetime.

GOP have always played dirty.

x1000000

This is one consequence sort of kind of beginning to catch up with the criminal. Still the GOP rubes cape for him like he’s the second coming.
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