Georgia State Board of Education bans discussion of racism and white supremacy from all classrooms

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all of you who day CRT is bad - read this

Teaching about the Tulsa massacre is not CRT. That's teaching history. It's good to know what happened in the past, so we don't repeat it.

CRT is about teaching kids they are inherently racist or oppressors simply because they are white. That has no place in the classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where does it say it banned the discussion of racism and white supremacy in the classroom?

It doesn't actually say that, but it's hard to see how you could have an acceptable discussion of racism in the classroom. The whole reason CRT became a bugaboo of the right was because they were exceedingly uncomfortable with how much support racial justice got after George Floyd. They latched on to CRT and certain excesses/bad examples of diversity training to tar all discussion of race and racism. Now any white student who feels "uncomfortable" talking about facts like, say, that the white-black wealth gap today is due to a legacy of discriminatory policies such as restrictive covenants and racist lending policies, can claim that this discussion violates the policy.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2020/02/27/examining-the-black-white-wealth-gap/

No, republicans don’t have a problem with racial justice. Republicans and others have a problem with CRT. CRT is not the only way to teach about racism and our history. It’s a lens, a way of looking at race and history. We can agree that we need to teach history without glossing over our racist past and that we need to provide diversity training, etc. But it can be done without using CRT as the underlying philosophy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all of you who day CRT is bad - read this

Teaching about the Tulsa massacre is not CRT. That's teaching history. It's good to know what happened in the past, so we don't repeat it.

CRT is about teaching kids they are inherently racist or oppressors simply because they are white. That has no place in the classroom.

Here's the thing though - Southerners like the GA Board of Education are equating any in-depth look at history in this country pertaining to race, including the Tulsa Massacre and scholarship like the 1619 Project, as CRT. They want to throw out the whole lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all of you who day CRT is bad - read this

Teaching about the Tulsa massacre is not CRT. That's teaching history. It's good to know what happened in the past, so we don't repeat it.

CRT is about teaching kids they are inherently racist or oppressors simply because they are white. That has no place in the classroom.

+1 Exactly this. No one is saying we shouldn’t teach about our history. I don’t think people understand what critical race theory is. We need to teach about our past and deal with uncomfortable issues like racism and how to move forward from it. But CRT is not a good way to go about it.

[Anonymous]

Heavens it was a PITA to find the resolution because everyone is frickin' calling it legislation and it isn't...
Here's a link to the 5 page MS Word Doc- https://simbli.eboardsolutions.com/Meetings/Attachment.aspx?S=1262&AID=1274907&MID=93474

Could someone please point out where it says things like the Tulsa Massacre and lynching and Japanese internment and giving the Native Americans smallpox can't be taught?

#4- Affirms that we will not support, or impart, any K-12 public education resources or standards which (i) indoctrinate students in social, or political, ideology or theory, or (ii) promote one race or sex above another,

#5- Believes that no state education agency, school district, or school shall teach, instruct, or train any administrator, teacher, staff member, or employee to adopt or believe any of the following concepts: (a) one race or sex is inherently superior to another race or sex; (b) an individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex, is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously; (c) an individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because of the individual’s race; (d) members of one race cannot or should not attempt to treat others without respect to race; (e) an individual’s moral standing or worth is necessarily determined by his or her race or sex; (f) an individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex, bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex; (g) an individual should feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race or sex; (h) meritocracy or traits such as a hard work ethic are racist or sexist, or were created by members of a particular race to oppress members of another race; (i) fault, blame, or bias should be assigned to a race or sex, or to members of a race or sex because of their race or sex.

#6- Believes that no teacher, administrator, or other employee in any state education agency, school district, or school administration shall approve for use, make use of, or carry out, standards, curricula, lesson plans, textbooks, instructional materials, or instructional practices that serve to inculcate in students the following concepts: (a) one race or sex is inherently superior to another race or sex; (b) an individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex, is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously; (c) an individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because of the individual’s race; (d) members of one race cannot and should not attempt to treat others without respect to race; (e) an individual's moral standing or worth is necessarily determined by his or her race or sex; (f) an individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex, bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex; (g) any individual should feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race or sex; (h) meritocracy or traits such as a hard work ethic are racist or sexist, or were created by a members of a particular race to oppress members of another race; (i) that the advent of slavery in the territory that is now the United States constituted the true founding of the United States; or (j) that, with respect to their relationship to American values, slavery and racism are anything other than
deviations from, betrayals of, or failures to live up to, the authentic founding principles of the United States, which include liberty and equality,

A lot of my white neighbors and co-workers are getting high off of this CRT/BLM White Fragility racist anti-racist train of thought and you all are reading things into the resolution... what power does a damned resolution have anyway.

I'm not white so I have no idea why this is so appealing. But what concerns me as a MC AfAm is that some well meaning white teacher will undermine the discipline and lessons we are teaching our DS at home and excuse poor performance on his part on racism. This is all a smokescreen to ignore the poor education the public system has been delivering to communities of color since Brown v Board. Of course schools will be a prison pipeline if the students don't get the skills necessary to be functional workers in the economy. Have you seen the test scores for DCPS? Is a DCPS education enough to get a decent job with a living wage in this town? Nah, instead teach grievance not skills. Tell the students the world owes them something and be surprised how they react when the world does not pay up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really feel like this country is on the precipice of slipping back into Jim Crow. My parents are Boomers and they told me a number of their long-time friends and colleagues have absolutely become radicalized by what they are reading on Facebook and seeing on Fox News. To the point where these people are OK expressing that they think certain populations - based on race - shouldn't be allowed to vote. And, of course, they get offended when my parents say "Hey, that's racist."

The seed has been planted and it's germinating.

This country is about to go through some things and it won't be pleasant.

-White Guy

There is no way we’re on the precipice of falling back into Jim Crow simply for the fact of demographic realities. This country is browning much more quickly than it is lightening.

What you’re seeing are futile attempts to halt those changes through bills which will be overturned by an increasingly interracial society in a few years. These are the last gasp attempts.

One concern I do have is this idea of needing to slow AP students of any race down and placing them all together out of “equity”, but really on all the other stuff, we should be teaching them, in a non-shame based way, about the terrible effects of slavery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all of you who day CRT is bad - read this

Teaching about the Tulsa massacre is not CRT. That's teaching history. It's good to know what happened in the past, so we don't repeat it.

CRT is about teaching kids they are inherently racist or oppressors simply because they are white. That has no place in the classroom.

Here's the thing though - Southerners like the GA Board of Education are equating any in-depth look at history in this country pertaining to race, including the Tulsa Massacre and scholarship like the 1619 Project, as CRT. They want to throw out the whole lot.

"scholarship" such as saying the revolutionary war was fought to preserve slavery, which had to be retracted about 5 seconds later?

Truly rigorous.

Teach all the ugly, leave nothing out. Lying is unneccessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all of you who day CRT is bad - read this

Teaching about the Tulsa massacre is not CRT. That's teaching history. It's good to know what happened in the past, so we don't repeat it.

CRT is about teaching kids they are inherently racist or oppressors simply because they are white. That has no place in the classroom.

Here's the thing though - Southerners like the GA Board of Education are equating any in-depth look at history in this country pertaining to race, including the Tulsa Massacre and scholarship like the 1619 Project, as CRT. They want to throw out the whole lot.

"scholarship" such as saying the revolutionary war was fought to preserve slavery, which had to be retracted about 5 seconds later?

Truly rigorous.

Teach all the ugly, leave nothing out. Lying is unneccessary.

That statement was removed from the 1619 Project materials because people got upset, but it wasn't retracted. In fact, the NYT supported it with the work of historians of the period when it defended the project (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/20/magazine/we-respond-to-the-historians-who-critiqued-the-1619-project.html).

It's a genuinely debated point in the scholarship of Revolutionary America, it's not "lying" to credit the work of different historians than you'd like.

[Anonymous]

I didn't know Tom Hanks was an expert on education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all of you who day CRT is bad - read this

Teaching about the Tulsa massacre is not CRT. That's teaching history. It's good to know what happened in the past, so we don't repeat it.

CRT is about teaching kids they are inherently racist or oppressors simply because they are white. That has no place in the classroom.

Here's the thing though - Southerners like the GA Board of Education are equating any in-depth look at history in this country pertaining to race, including the Tulsa Massacre and scholarship like the 1619 Project, as CRT. They want to throw out the whole lot.

"scholarship" such as saying the revolutionary war was fought to preserve slavery, which had to be retracted about 5 seconds later?

Truly rigorous.

Teach all the ugly, leave nothing out. Lying is unneccessary.

That statement was removed from the 1619 Project materials because people got upset, but it wasn't retracted. In fact, the NYT supported it with the work of historians of the period when it defended the project (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/20/magazine/we-respond-to-the-historians-who-critiqued-the-1619-project.html).

It's a genuinely debated point in the scholarship of Revolutionary America, it's not "lying" to credit the work of different historians than you'd like.

So is the moon landing. The 1619 project is more creative writing than actual historical scholarship. Tell me who in academia was saying the Revolutionary War was about slavery prior to the 1960s? When universities started the publish or perish mess academics started writing all sorts of crazy crap. And as I vaguely remember, Britain was offering slaves freedom if they fought against their masters, so how could it be about preserving slavery? Publish or perish makes people write some crazy stuff.

I think we can all agree we don't want a struggle session in 3rd grade social studies. Yes, teach about the Tulsa massacre but make it age appropriate, same way you make the Holocaust age appropriate. They have the same theme, humans suck. And when the Holocaust is taught the teacher doesn't/shouldn't point out all the kids of German heritage and explain how they are nothing but evil and need to be held back and down so the Jewish kids in class get special attention, which does the Jewish kids no good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:?
I realize this is not what some people want taught but it IS focused on trying to be neutral. Having read the pages posted I do not see a problem and wish FCPS were following this too.

- Moderate Dem, would have voted for even Bernie over Trump, but also sees SB in FCPS as trying to dive left off a cliff.

Excellent way to put it.

[Anonymous]

Why shouldn’t white children be educated about their own culpability in systemic racism, all their unearned white privilege, and made to sit with their discomfort?

Why shouldn’t public schools be the ones to advance this effort?

Georgia is clearly trying to fight against teaching critical race theory in public schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn’t white children be educated about their own culpability in systemic racism, all their unearned white privilege, and made to sit with their discomfort?

Why shouldn’t public schools be the ones to advance this effort?

Georgia is clearly trying to fight against teaching critical race theory in public schools.

Explain to me how a third grader is culpable in systemic racism.

Give me some examples of a third grader's unearned white privilege.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn’t white children be educated about their own culpability in systemic racism, all their unearned white privilege, and made to sit with their discomfort?

Why shouldn’t public schools be the ones to advance this effort?

Georgia is clearly trying to fight against teaching critical race theory in public schools.

Explain to me how a third grader is culpable in systemic racism.

Give me some examples of a third grader's unearned white privilege.

Hell even the concept of original sin does not even reach these levels of stupid. I can explain why a 3rd grader is possibly deserving of the eternal pains of Hell, because every single human is a sinful creature but there is redemption and forgiveness to counter that. Under this system the white 3rd grader is racist, the Pre-K kid is racist, baby is racist, the kid in the womb is super racist. Everything and everyone is racist. None of these teachings make kids not racist, because in this system there is no such thing as 'not racist'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn’t white children be educated about their own culpability in systemic racism, all their unearned white privilege, and made to sit with their discomfort?

Why shouldn’t public schools be the ones to advance this effort?

Georgia is clearly trying to fight against teaching critical race theory in public schools.

Explain to me how a third grader is culpable in systemic racism.

Give me some examples of a third grader's unearned white privilege.

One of the emerging beliefs of CRT is that people are either racist or antiracist. There is no middle ground.

White kids are racist by their inaction if they do not actively seek to be antiracist.