Georgia State Board of Education bans discussion of racism and white supremacy from all classrooms

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CRT is a lie which does not belong in any classroom.

But you’re fine with the other lies?

DP. It's neither a lie nor truth. It is a perspective, a lens through which to view history. Public education should teach about various perspectives without requiring strict adherence to any particular viewpoint.

The way CRT is being taught in some schools is not that different from teaching creationism as absolute fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t want public school teachers teaching race or white privilege to my non-white kids, are you kidding me? I barely trust them to teach essay writing.

One of my public school teachers, who insisted their class of 10th graders watch Roots from start-to-finish, absolutely changed my life and perspective on society.

Its about exposure not necessarily having the Cicero of educators teaching you at every level.

I don’t see anything in this proposal that would prevent showing the kids Roots.

One thing I’m very skeptical of is white teachers trying to explain how bad off nonwhites are, in a way that’s ultimately disempowering and discouraging. Honestly, again, as a the parent of nonwhite kids, I don’t want white people teaching my kids any of this, full stop.

So what's the assumption here? They never learn it? Or you hope there are parents at home that will teach their kids over 200 years of history when those same parents were complaining about having to oversee cursive lessons for 1st graders during quarantine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CRT is a lie which does not belong in any classroom.

But you’re fine with the other lies?

DP. It's neither a lie nor truth. It is a perspective, a lens through which to view history. Public education should teach about various perspectives without requiring strict adherence to any particular viewpoint.

The way CRT is being taught in some schools is not that different from teaching creationism as absolute fact.

I completely agree with you. I also hope that history and government classes have evolved from when I took them. While it’s not exactly a “lie” to center history solely around white, male perspectives, the traditional focus on only one perspective and the exclusion of others was considered the official “truth” way back when.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CRT is a lie which does not belong in any classroom.

But you’re fine with the other lies?

DP. It's neither a lie nor truth. It is a perspective, a lens through which to view history. Public education should teach about various perspectives without requiring strict adherence to any particular viewpoint.

The way CRT is being taught in some schools is not that different from teaching creationism as absolute fact.

I completely agree with you. I also hope that history and government classes have evolved from when I took them. While it’s not exactly a “lie” to center history solely around white, male perspectives, the traditional focus on only one perspective and the exclusion of others was considered the official “truth” way back when.

You and I are on the same page. I like many of CRT's ideas, including examination of how white-centric culture and beliefs disadvantage BIPOCS as well as the need to expose students to the perspectives and experiences of marginalized people and would advocate for exposing students to these perspectives as age appropriate. That needs to happen.

My primary concern about CRT is that the endgame is dismantling our nation's institutions. I don't think younger students should be called upon to dismantle our democratic institutions or else be branded racists while they are still in the process of learning about them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The policy would ban the discussion of any current events in the classroom.

Wtf? This is some North Korean crap.

No, it won't. reread the bill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:did you read the legislation? It didn't say anything about banning discussions on race. it just establishes guidelines to discourage calling white kids oppressors and privileged. I agree 100%. it's gone too far. my super quiet DD has to deal with black kids calling her and other kids racist for no reason except that she is white.
teach history and leave the blame out of it. it is causing as many problems as religion in schools was said to cause.

OMG wow Ms. Racist glad you came out to play.

You are 100% incorrect.

And Shame on you. Get your kid out of public school clearly you need a very small nonacademic religious private full of white Racists.

How am I 100% incorrect? How would you feel if you or your child were called racist for no reason at all? why should a kid in school learning black history need to feel guilty for something they had nothing to do with. Teach the history, teach how to make things better, but don't bring down other kids just because they are white. my kid who goes to a majority minority school has been targeted because she is white. some of her friends even blame her family for slavery and we come from the middle east!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:did you read the legislation? It didn't say anything about banning discussions on race. it just establishes guidelines to discourage calling white kids oppressors and privileged. I agree 100%. it's gone too far. my super quiet DD has to deal with black kids calling her and other kids racist for no reason except that she is white.
teach history and leave the blame out of it. it is causing as many problems as religion in schools was said to cause.

OMG wow Ms. Racist glad you came out to play.

You are 100% incorrect.

And Shame on you. Get your kid out of public school clearly you need a very small nonacademic religious private full of white Racists.

“My kid was harassed for being white”
Crazy lady on the internet: “Shame on you, racist!” 😂😂

your kids obviously go to school in Bethesda where this would never happen. you call me crazy but I am not lying. but you go ahead and live in your white bubble while reality is going on around you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:did you read the legislation? It didn't say anything about banning discussions on race. it just establishes guidelines to discourage calling white kids oppressors and privileged. I agree 100%. it's gone too far. my super quiet DD has to deal with black kids calling her and other kids racist for no reason except that she is white.
teach history and leave the blame out of it. it is causing as many problems as religion in schools was said to cause.

OMG wow Ms. Racist glad you came out to play.

You are 100% incorrect.

And Shame on you. Get your kid out of public school clearly you need a very small nonacademic religious private full of white Racists.

Wow, PP. Take a step back and give some thought as to why your post stirs disgust. Nobody respects a person who responds the way that you did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t want public school teachers teaching race or white privilege to my non-white kids, are you kidding me? I barely trust them to teach essay writing.

One of my public school teachers, who insisted their class of 10th graders watch Roots from start-to-finish, absolutely changed my life and perspective on society.

Its about exposure not necessarily having the Cicero of educators teaching you at every level.

I don’t see anything in this proposal that would prevent showing the kids Roots.

One thing I’m very skeptical of is white teachers trying to explain how bad off nonwhites are, in a way that’s ultimately disempowering and discouraging. Honestly, again, as a the parent of nonwhite kids, I don’t want white people teaching my kids any of this, full stop.

why not? I know the reason but I want to hear you say it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:did you read the legislation? It didn't say anything about banning discussions on race. it just establishes guidelines to discourage calling white kids oppressors and privileged. I agree 100%. it's gone too far. my super quiet DD has to deal with black kids calling her and other kids racist for no reason except that she is white.
teach history and leave the blame out of it. it is causing as many problems as religion in schools was said to cause.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CRT is a lie which does not belong in any classroom.

I wonder if you have the same thoughts on Creationism in the classroom. I'm guessing not.

Christians will allow a lot of things in the classroom, but an accurate portrayal of racial subjugation? Not a chance.

I completely agree that CRT does not belong in the classroom, or anywhere for that matter.

And gee - what an odd statement. What public school in the country teaches creationism? Stop making things up. Of course it doesn't belong there, either, so your "guessing" is wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CRT is a lie which does not belong in any classroom.

But you’re fine with the other lies?

DP. It's neither a lie nor truth. It is a perspective, a lens through which to view history. Public education should teach about various perspectives without requiring strict adherence to any particular viewpoint.

The way CRT is being taught in some schools is not that different from teaching creationism as absolute fact.

I tend to believe that CRT can be viewed that way - as an academic approach to studying history - but in practice it typically seems to be accompanied by s very specific political agenda to address disparities among racial groups through the redistribution of wealth and race-based allocations of societal resources. The latter sounds most defensible when couched in legal or academic terms, but in practice is a recipe for a second civil war.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really feel like this country is on the precipice of slipping back into Jim Crow. My parents are Boomers and they told me a number of their long-time friends and colleagues have absolutely become radicalized by what they are reading on Facebook and seeing on Fox News. To the point where these people are OK expressing that they think certain populations - based on race - shouldn't be allowed to vote. And, of course, they get offended when my parents say "Hey, that's racist."

The seed has been planted and it's germinating.

This country is about to go through some things and it won't be pleasant.

-White Guy

You are delusional. Conservatives welcome people of all races into the movement. The thing that people want to prevent is millions of undocumented people voting. No one, even Republicans, wants to exclude American citizens from voting. In fact, blacks have had a higher percentage of voter turnout than whites during the last several elections. If they were being suppressed, how would that happen?

But I do agree that the country is going through some things that are unpleasant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CRT is a lie which does not belong in any classroom.

But you’re fine with the other lies?

DP. It's neither a lie nor truth. It is a perspective, a lens through which to view history. Public education should teach about various perspectives without requiring strict adherence to any particular viewpoint.

The way CRT is being taught in some schools is not that different from teaching creationism as absolute fact.

I tend to believe that CRT can be viewed that way - as an academic approach to studying history - but in practice it typically seems to be accompanied by s very specific political agenda to address disparities among racial groups through the redistribution of wealth and race-based allocations of societal resources. The latter sounds most defensible when couched in legal or academic terms, but in practice is a recipe for a second civil war.

Because it is a Marxist lens.

[Anonymous]

For all of you who day CRT is bad - read this