Thousands of kids attend charters without in person option

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:15k our of 52k DCPS students is nothing to brag about either. Especially when a huge portion of the 15k are actually CARES classoom, that may be in person but it is not IN PERSON LEARNING.

We tried CARES - spotty internet, sites blocked - it was worse than working from home.
So unfortunate because my child has an IEP and this year has been heart breaking watching him fail just about every class. His sense of self is so poor. We are not (yet) in a mental health emergency - but it is something we are watching very carefully.

Thank you DCPS and WTU.

[Anonymous]

This makes me mad as a taxpayer, that is for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Article by well known, experienced reporter: charters did not fully open, partially due to low demand from some members of the community.

DCUM posters: that’s not possible because it’s not what I want! Someone must have gotten to Perry Stein

It's the "due to low demand" question that deserves MUCH better reporting than we got. How did she assess demand? How many school parents did she talk to? Did she talk to any homeless parents at Roots? Did she look at the research that indicates that demand is driven by the school's actions, and parents take their cues from the school? And how about the "due to" part. Was it "due to" parent demand, or was it "due to" self-interested decisions by adminstration and teachers? And how about challenging that absoutely absurd quote by the Roots adminstrator at the end suggesting that online learning is just as good as in person?

I mean, it's like you want us to all collectively ignore the the fact that a) there is tons of evidence that DL is terrible for kids, especially at risk kids and b) schools can reopen safely and c) private/parochials/and other urban publics are open.

I really hope, once everything returns to normal, the people on her clamoring for how DL is terrible for kids stay in the fight to ensure that in-person is much better for kids than it was before. As a teacher at a DC Public School with an extremely high at risk population (a school that I'm sure none of you would consider attending), DL has been a disaster, but its not like the situation in person was what all of you people would consider acceptable. Our schools need more resources - more teachers, more instructional materials, more and higher quality technology for teachers and students. Until I see you all pushing for the full educational experience of at risk children to be improved overall, statements like this are just you using at risk kids to support your own goals. Once you get everyone fully back in person are you going to continue to advocate for at risk youth? Or once your child's experience is better does everyone else's not matter any more?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids are at a charter. Parents and administration has wanted to bring kids back for months. But, with mandatory 6-ft distancing, it was simply not possible in their current space. The mayor's guidance last week was a game changer, in making the social distancing optional. They are bringing all the kids back in the building for June.

I am not happy that they have been remote for so long, but it's hard for me to blame the school. Until last week, the mayor was mandating conditions (based on CDC recommendations) that were impossible to satisfy, given the school's facilities.

Other schools may have other issues, but at least at my charter they would have had kids back 6 months ago, but for the official guidance from higher ups.

That's nice that you bought their story hook line and sinker. Every other school that wanted to brought back some portion of the kids, or did hybrid schooling in order to accommodate 6 feet.

Exactly. Don't be foolish. MANY charters/DCPS have been open and engineered hybrid to comply with 6 ft distancing GUIDANCE (not mandatory).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:15k our of 52k DCPS students is nothing to brag about either. Especially when a huge portion of the 15k are actually CARES classoom, that may be in person but it is not IN PERSON LEARNING.

We tried CARES - spotty internet, sites blocked - it was worse than working from home.
So unfortunate because my child has an IEP and this year has been heart breaking watching him fail just about every class. His sense of self is so poor. We are not (yet) in a mental health emergency - but it is something we are watching very carefully.

Thank you DCPS and WTU.

I’m really sorry to hear that. Are you able to do any camps this summer? We’re really fortunate our child got an in person spot - he was really starting to lose it. Make sure you demand an updated IEP/compensatory services.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:15k our of 52k DCPS students is nothing to brag about either. Especially when a huge portion of the 15k are actually CARES classoom, that may be in person but it is not IN PERSON LEARNING.

We tried CARES - spotty internet, sites blocked - it was worse than working from home.
So unfortunate because my child has an IEP and this year has been heart breaking watching him fail just about every class. His sense of self is so poor. We are not (yet) in a mental health emergency - but it is something we are watching very carefully.

Thank you DCPS and WTU.

There. Was. A. Pandemic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:15k our of 52k DCPS students is nothing to brag about either. Especially when a huge portion of the 15k are actually CARES classoom, that may be in person but it is not IN PERSON LEARNING.

We tried CARES - spotty internet, sites blocked - it was worse than working from home.
So unfortunate because my child has an IEP and this year has been heart breaking watching him fail just about every class. His sense of self is so poor. We are not (yet) in a mental health emergency - but it is something we are watching very carefully.

Thank you DCPS and WTU.

There. Was. A. Pandemic.

Kids were in school in parochials, privates, and other urban publics. And PP’s son is STILL not in school, while bars are packed. “It was a pandemic” doesn’t fly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Article by well known, experienced reporter: charters did not fully open, partially due to low demand from some members of the community.

DCUM posters: that’s not possible because it’s not what I want! Someone must have gotten to Perry Stein

It's the "due to low demand" question that deserves MUCH better reporting than we got. How did she assess demand? How many school parents did she talk to? Did she talk to any homeless parents at Roots? Did she look at the research that indicates that demand is driven by the school's actions, and parents take their cues from the school? And how about the "due to" part. Was it "due to" parent demand, or was it "due to" self-interested decisions by adminstration and teachers? And how about challenging that absoutely absurd quote by the Roots adminstrator at the end suggesting that online learning is just as good as in person?

I mean, it's like you want us to all collectively ignore the the fact that a) there is tons of evidence that DL is terrible for kids, especially at risk kids and b) schools can reopen safely and c) private/parochials/and other urban publics are open.

I really hope, once everything returns to normal, the people on her clamoring for how DL is terrible for kids stay in the fight to ensure that in-person is much better for kids than it was before. As a teacher at a DC Public School with an extremely high at risk population (a school that I'm sure none of you would consider attending), DL has been a disaster, but its not like the situation in person was what all of you people would consider acceptable. Our schools need more resources - more teachers, more instructional materials, more and higher quality technology for teachers and students. Until I see you all pushing for the full educational experience of at risk children to be improved overall, statements like this are just you using at risk kids to support your own goals. Once you get everyone fully back in person are you going to continue to advocate for at risk youth? Or once your child's experience is better does everyone else's not matter any more?

I feel comfortable saying this: stfu.

At least people are now open about it. I wouldn’t worry about it 2PP; there are many more people in the city who understand DEI work and that they need to start changing their perspectives if they want to support the community at large (look at the recent council elections!). We’ll always have the people on here who don’t, and then get mad when studies call them out for it.

By the way, it’s fine that you just want what’s best for your kid and don’t care about others stfu poster, but you just look like a trash human when you respond like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most of the charters in DC don’t serve students any better than traditional public schools. They are a drain on our tax dollars and I wish the city would put a moratorium on new ones opening.

+1

And if the charter is soooo bad for not opening then go IB

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Article by well known, experienced reporter: charters did not fully open, partially due to low demand from some members of the community.

DCUM posters: that’s not possible because it’s not what I want! Someone must have gotten to Perry Stein

It's the "due to low demand" question that deserves MUCH better reporting than we got. How did she assess demand? How many school parents did she talk to? Did she talk to any homeless parents at Roots? Did she look at the research that indicates that demand is driven by the school's actions, and parents take their cues from the school? And how about the "due to" part. Was it "due to" parent demand, or was it "due to" self-interested decisions by adminstration and teachers? And how about challenging that absoutely absurd quote by the Roots adminstrator at the end suggesting that online learning is just as good as in person?

I mean, it's like you want us to all collectively ignore the the fact that a) there is tons of evidence that DL is terrible for kids, especially at risk kids and b) schools can reopen safely and c) private/parochials/and other urban publics are open.

I really hope, once everything returns to normal, the people on her clamoring for how DL is terrible for kids stay in the fight to ensure that in-person is much better for kids than it was before. As a teacher at a DC Public School with an extremely high at risk population (a school that I'm sure none of you would consider attending), DL has been a disaster, but its not like the situation in person was what all of you people would consider acceptable. Our schools need more resources - more teachers, more instructional materials, more and higher quality technology for teachers and students. Until I see you all pushing for the full educational experience of at risk children to be improved overall, statements like this are just you using at risk kids to support your own goals. Once you get everyone fully back in person are you going to continue to advocate for at risk youth? Or once your child's experience is better does everyone else's not matter any more?

I feel comfortable saying this: stfu.

At least people are now open about it. I wouldn’t worry about it 2PP; there are many more people in the city who understand DEI work and that they need to start changing their perspectives if they want to support the community at large (look at the recent council elections!). We’ll always have the people on here who don’t, and then get mad when studies call them out for it.

By the way, it’s fine that you just want what’s best for your kid and don’t care about others stfu poster, but you just look like a trash human when you respond like that.

huh - who cares about DC kids? the people who think they should all have equal access to the most basic education in school; or the ones cynically finding some way to call them racist?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Article by well known, experienced reporter: charters did not fully open, partially due to low demand from some members of the community.

DCUM posters: that’s not possible because it’s not what I want! Someone must have gotten to Perry Stein

It's the "due to low demand" question that deserves MUCH better reporting than we got. How did she assess demand? How many school parents did she talk to? Did she talk to any homeless parents at Roots? Did she look at the research that indicates that demand is driven by the school's actions, and parents take their cues from the school? And how about the "due to" part. Was it "due to" parent demand, or was it "due to" self-interested decisions by adminstration and teachers? And how about challenging that absoutely absurd quote by the Roots adminstrator at the end suggesting that online learning is just as good as in person?

I mean, it's like you want us to all collectively ignore the the fact that a) there is tons of evidence that DL is terrible for kids, especially at risk kids and b) schools can reopen safely and c) private/parochials/and other urban publics are open.

I really hope, once everything returns to normal, the people on her clamoring for how DL is terrible for kids stay in the fight to ensure that in-person is much better for kids than it was before. As a teacher at a DC Public School with an extremely high at risk population (a school that I'm sure none of you would consider attending), DL has been a disaster, but its not like the situation in person was what all of you people would consider acceptable. Our schools need more resources - more teachers, more instructional materials, more and higher quality technology for teachers and students. Until I see you all pushing for the full educational experience of at risk children to be improved overall, statements like this are just you using at risk kids to support your own goals. Once you get everyone fully back in person are you going to continue to advocate for at risk youth? Or once your child's experience is better does everyone else's not matter any more?

I feel comfortable saying this: stfu.

At least people are now open about it. I wouldn’t worry about it 2PP; there are many more people in the city who understand DEI work and that they need to start changing their perspectives if they want to support the community at large (look at the recent council elections!). We’ll always have the people on here who don’t, and then get mad when studies call them out for it.

By the way, it’s fine that you just want what’s best for your kid and don’t care about others stfu poster, but you just look like a trash human when you respond like that.

huh - who cares about DC kids? the people who think they should all have equal access to the most basic education in school; or the ones cynically finding some way to call them racist?

Totally my bad. Didn’t realize stfu was shorthand for I care about all kids in DC. I’ll do better next time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:15k our of 52k DCPS students is nothing to brag about either. Especially when a huge portion of the 15k are actually CARES classoom, that may be in person but it is not IN PERSON LEARNING.

We tried CARES - spotty internet, sites blocked - it was worse than working from home.
So unfortunate because my child has an IEP and this year has been heart breaking watching him fail just about every class. His sense of self is so poor. We are not (yet) in a mental health emergency - but it is something we are watching very carefully.

Thank you DCPS and WTU.

WTU has nothing to do w the charters. But I suppose some people need someone to blame to sleep at night

[Anonymous]

So many Karen’s want to beat up WTU which has no say w charters. It’s nice to see people have gone full blown we don’t care vs pretending to be a real liberal who will fight for equity we knew all along you didn’t care about all schools opening just your school - nice to see you are finally honest

Now tell me again why you can’t go IB if IPL is the most important thing for you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So many Karen’s want to beat up WTU which has no say w charters. It’s nice to see people have gone full blown we don’t care vs pretending to be a real liberal who will fight for equity we knew all along you didn’t care about all schools opening just your school - nice to see you are finally honest

Now tell me again why you can’t go IB if IPL is the most important thing for you

we’re IB and I know people who returned to IB from charters to get in person seats. I’m not sure what your point is. My point is that the primary equity issue right now is getting all kids back into the classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Overall this article is not well written. It raises a lot of complex issues, but it does not answer them well. It seems like a bit of a hack job where she emailed a bunch of schools, interviewed 2 parents, and called it a day.

We need an in depth investigation of the travesty of keeping schools shut all year in the charter sector with zero oversight. I am pro-charter, but not if they can't be regulated whatsoever.

Former Ed Sec DeVos big proponent of UNregulated charters. Just wants the taxpayer money but no accountability for it.