2027 AA Cavalier lacrosse “champs”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not only cheating, it is a safety and liability issue. A ninth grader should not be playing a contact sport against sixth graders. It blows my mind that coaches entrusted with kids could be so foolish and so unethical.

The guys who run Cavalier have generally a good reputation. Did they know about this? If I had a son who was considering joining Cavalier at any age, not just 2027, I would definitely ask how this happened and what they did about it. There is at least one travel program at a similar level and location (Evergreen, now Hammers) competing with Cavalier so families do have options.

Somebody said earlier that the Dad of the ninth grader is a HS coach himself - is that true and if so what school?

Not hard to look for which Nova HS varsity goalie could pass for a 6th grader.

Why are you being so mysterious? The ninth grader did not drive himself to the game, so obviously his parents thought this whole thing was ok. If the Dad is a HS coach, go ahead and say the name of the school.

[Anonymous]

Cavs cheated. MadLax did nothing wrong. You gotta feel sorry for all the kids, including the goalie. The MadLax kids deserved a chance to compete and win the title fair and square. The 9th grader deserves better role models. The Cavs coaches who participated in this should be banned from HoCo next season. The 9th grader is too old to be disciplined by HoCo, but if the Cavs were an honorable club they would make him sit out at least a game or two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not only cheating, it is a safety and liability issue. A ninth grader should not be playing a contact sport against sixth graders. It blows my mind that coaches entrusted with kids could be so foolish and so unethical.

The guys who run Cavalier have generally a good reputation. Did they know about this? If I had a son who was considering joining Cavalier at any age, not just 2027, I would definitely ask how this happened and what they did about it. There is at least one travel program at a similar level and location (Evergreen, now Hammers) competing with Cavalier so families do have options.

Somebody said earlier that the Dad of the ninth grader is a HS coach himself - is that true and if so what school?

Not hard to look for which Nova HS varsity goalie could pass for a 6th grader.

Why are you being so mysterious? The ninth grader did not drive himself to the game, so obviously his parents thought this whole thing was ok. If the Dad is a HS coach, go ahead and say the name of the school.

I’ll say it. South Lakes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cavs cheated. MadLax did nothing wrong. You gotta feel sorry for all the kids, including the goalie. The MadLax kids deserved a chance to compete and win the title fair and square. The 9th grader deserves better role models. The Cavs coaches who participated in this should be banned from HoCo next season. The 9th grader is too old to be disciplined by HoCo, but if the Cavs were an honorable club they would make him sit out at least a game or two.

MadLax was given the chance to win the title fair and square and did.

[Anonymous]

Correct, the game was re-played between the two teams that Cav's beat with the HS goalie. It was probably a big deal logistically for HoCo and the two clubs to put together a make up championship game, so kudos to everybody for pulling that off. And, I heard that the Cavs coach was asked to resign and a new coach is taking over for the summer. (perhaps somebody can confirm that?) So everybody did the right thing and the situation was fixed.

Just curious, how common is it for teams to slip overage players into games? I'd like to think it is rare, but who knows.

[Anonymous]

Ask CM. He has experience in these sort of things.

[Anonymous]

Yes of course. Other than MadLax and Cavs, do other teams do this?

[Anonymous]

Madlax uses kids from their A team for the roster to help the B team win. But at least their on age.

[Anonymous]

Haha, riiiight....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Correct, the game was re-played between the two teams that Cav's beat with the HS goalie. It was probably a big deal logistically for HoCo and the two clubs to put together a make up championship game, so kudos to everybody for pulling that off. And, I heard that the Cavs coach was asked to resign and a new coach is taking over for the summer. (perhaps somebody can confirm that?) So everybody did the right thing and the situation was fixed.

Just curious, how common is it for teams to slip overage players into games? I'd like to think it is rare, but who knows.

who really knows? Among 3-5 divisions (B-Elite) for grades 3-8 (let's say 120+ teams), forfeits have been been imposed with one team in 2019 (5th grade A division w/ 6th grader players all season and semis) and now another team 2021 (6th grade AA with hs player, semi/final). it's not age but grade that hoco uses. teams can always cheat but in hoco its much easier to spot because teams will play over 7 weeks vs 2 days, all teams are local and often notice if a new player never seen before appears for a playoffs and obviously a hs kid is more mature than a 6th grader even if he's not that tall.

[Anonymous]

SL has a 9th grade goalie who is a former Cav, so a strong suspect…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who cares I am starting to think Cav parents keep posting about this because the club is irrelevant in the lacrosse club scene. This was a B HOCO division move on

i'm not a cavs parent and it was AA division and it matters now matter how irrelevant or uncomfortably annoying this thread is to you.

The AA division is the B division in HOCO. AAA is A- and Elite is A. A and B are really C. Winning the AA = to NVYLL B div.

[Anonymous]

NVYLL = IRRELEVANT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NVYLL = IRRELEVANT

HOCO AA-B irrelevant

[Anonymous]

True