When did Penn become prestigious?

[Anonymous]

Always?

[Anonymous]

It has always been prestigious. How do you define prestigious if you don’t believe it has always been.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Title could have been worded better, but Penn definitely has grown in prestige over the last several decades. Outside of Wharton it was definitely considered "last" in the Ivy League, but of course still very, very prestigious. I hate that terminology because "last in the Ivy League" is still "one of the top in the world"

I went to Penn in the 1980s. My recollection is that it was not Harvard, Yale, Princeton but that I thought of Penn, Cornell and Columbia on a par. Maybe Brown was a bit more prestigious? Everyone liked Brown back then because of all the flexibility. I actually picked Penn over Cornell and Columbia. Have been amazed at how much more difficult it has become to get into any of these schools.....

[Anonymous]

Penn was one of the founding universities of the Association of American Universities in 1900.

These are
University of California,
The University of Chicago,
Clark University,
Columbia University,
Cornell University,
Harvard University,
Johns Hopkins University,
University of Michigan,
Princeton University,
University of Pennsylvania,
Stanford University,
University of Wisconsin, and
Yale University

Other than Clark, anybody will recognize these names, so yes, Penn has been prestigious for at least 100 years

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Penn was one of the founding universities of the Association of American Universities in 1900.

These are
University of California,
The University of Chicago,
Clark University,
Columbia University,
Cornell University,
Harvard University,
Johns Hopkins University,
University of Michigan,
Princeton University,
University of Pennsylvania,
Stanford University,
University of Wisconsin, and
Yale University

Other than Clark, anybody will recognize these names, so yes, Penn has been prestigious for at least 100 years

No one cares who the founding members of the AAU were.

[Anonymous]

Can anyone please describe with some detail what it is like to be a student at the College of Arts and Sciences at Penn ?

Is it overwhelming with the size of the entering freshman class ? Are courses very large and overwhelming ? Is it a very stressful experience? Is there culture there ? Is it easy to make friends ? Is it intellectually a stimulating environment ?

Philadeliphia always seemed to be a mediocre city in comparison to Boston, New Yor, San Francisco, Washington, Chicago. Any comments on this, too, please ?

Thank you for any details.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone please describe with some detail what it is like to be a student at the College of Arts and Sciences at Penn ?

Is it overwhelming with the size of the entering freshman class ? Are courses very large and overwhelming ? Is it a very stressful experience? Is there culture there ? Is it easy to make friends ? Is it intellectually a stimulating environment ?

Philadeliphia always seemed to be a mediocre city in comparison to Boston, New Yor, San Francisco, Washington, Chicago. Any comments on this, too, please ?

Thank you for any details.

CAS students are basically treated as second class citizens vis a vis Wharton.

[Anonymous]

Who cares?

Mit, cal tech, rice, ga tech, harvey mudd>>> ivies

[Anonymous]

If you must be in the Philadelphia area, Swathmore is much better.

As a city, Philadelphia is second rate. Always has been in comparison to other cities.

You can't compare it to New York City as a world-class city, or to Boston.

[Anonymous]

'I actually picked Penn over Cornell and Columbia' in the 1980's.

If the choice was Wharton, sure, understood. But the CAS ??? No way. It was not anywhere near to Columbia College or to Cornell A and S. Columbia College was small and intellectually powerful then with 700 in a class. Cornell is a beautiful rustic campus.

Did you like your experience at Penn ? I was accepted but turned off by the large class size, unattractive Locus Walk with a hodgepodge of buildings that were non-descript, and the frat culture with its building signs looming over the campus and can be sen from classroom windows. It did not feel 'Ivy'.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:'I actually picked Penn over Cornell and Columbia' in the 1980's.

If the choice was Wharton, sure, understood. But the CAS ??? No way. It was not anywhere near to Columbia College or to Cornell A and S. Columbia College was small and intellectually powerful then with 700 in a class. Cornell is a beautiful rustic campus.

Did you like your experience at Penn ? I was accepted but turned off by the large class size, unattractive Locus Walk with a hodgepodge of buildings that were non-descript, and the frat culture with its building signs looming over the campus and can be sen from classroom windows. It did not feel 'Ivy'.

You seem intent on knocking Penn. It may not be for everyone. It's definitely urban and Philly has its warts. With that said, some of the comments are clearly false for anyone who has some familiarity with the school and the campus. Locust Walk is fabulous. Perhaps it's been awhile since you visited? The campus in general holds its own just fine against any of the other Ivy's I've seen, which is most. There are frats and sororities, but the school is not particularly known for its frat culture relative to many others. Also, CAS and Penn in general does a fantastic job with its outcomes. In fact the highest starting salary ( not that this means everything) for graduating seniors is not from Wharton, but from engineering and CS. This year that # will be right around $100,000 grand on average. As others have mentioned, we are splitting hairs here between this elite and prestigious school vs. this other elite and prestigious school.

I'll add that Penn has embraced interdisciplinary studies between its four undergraduate schools. This is in turn embraced by many students.

[Anonymous]

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I attended hs in the 1980s in NJ - students at my HS with SAT scores in the 1300s were consisrently admitted to Columbia
back then. It was definitely considered an easier ivy to gain admittance (ditto Cornell).

Hey doofus, back in the 80s, 1300s were excellent SAT scores. Not as good as mine however.
You petty navel-gazers assessing differences between these schools yet saying non-Ivies suck are truly pathetic.

Ah, I obviously know what kind of scores 1300s were since I was a student then. They were good but not amazing and you didn’t get in to most ivies with a 1350 absent a hook.

I know PLENTY OF PEOPLE ( middle and upper-middle-class well-rounded students from the suburbs) who got into the Ivy colleges with 1300's, including Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth.

I know we are off point, but where did you grow up? This was not my experience growing up same time in Westchester County. Granted, those kids were getting into the Duke/Northwestern level colleges, which would never happen today.

I am from flyover country and only a legacy would have gotten in from my private HS with 1300s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn was one of the founding universities of the Association of American Universities in 1900.

These are
University of California,
The University of Chicago,
Clark University,
Columbia University,
Cornell University,
Harvard University,
Johns Hopkins University,
University of Michigan,
Princeton University,
University of Pennsylvania,
Stanford University,
University of Wisconsin, and
Yale University

Other than Clark, anybody will recognize these names, so yes, Penn has been prestigious for at least 100 years

No one cares who the founding members of the AAU were.

Your are a moron. The AAU is a list of the most prestigious universities in the country. If you don't know something, just stfu

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:'I actually picked Penn over Cornell and Columbia' in the 1980's.

If the choice was Wharton, sure, understood. But the CAS ??? No way. It was not anywhere near to Columbia College or to Cornell A and S. Columbia College was small and intellectually powerful then with 700 in a class. Cornell is a beautiful rustic campus.

Did you like your experience at Penn ? I was accepted but turned off by the large class size, unattractive Locus Walk with a hodgepodge of buildings that were non-descript, and the frat culture with its building signs looming over the campus and can be sen from classroom windows. It did not feel 'Ivy'.

You seem intent on knocking Penn. It may not be for everyone. It's definitely urban and Philly has its warts. With that said, some of the comments are clearly false for anyone who has some familiarity with the school and the campus. Locust Walk is fabulous. Perhaps it's been awhile since you visited? The campus in general holds its own just fine against any of the other Ivy's I've seen, which is most. There are frats and sororities, but the school is not particularly known for its frat culture relative to many others. Also, CAS and Penn in general does a fantastic job with its outcomes. In fact the highest starting salary ( not that this means everything) for graduating seniors is not from Wharton, but from engineering and CS. This year that # will be right around $100,000 grand on average. As others have mentioned, we are splitting hairs here between this elite and prestigious school vs. this other elite and prestigious school.

I'll add that Penn has embraced interdisciplinary studies between its four undergraduate schools. This is in turn embraced by many students.

Well, can you describe what it was like to be a student at College of Arts and Sciences ? I am not trying to knock anything, just sharing my observations and feelings. I last visited in 2018.

[Anonymous]

A visitor here : What is 'fantastic' about Locust Walk ? From on line pictures it looks OK, but nothing memorable.