APS - Over/Under on Duran changing his mind if CDC reduces school distancing to 3 feet?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the only thing this will change it allowing more kids to join the hyrbid model in elementary school.

I do not think they'll add more in person days.

You might be right

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Anonymous wrote:I've been hoping/praying for the CDC to reduce the distancing guideline to 3 feet for schools (especially elementary). It seems like it may actually happen, but I'm skeptical and reluctant to think Duran will put the effort in place to open schools full-time ASAP. Hopefully Northam signs the bill with the emergency clause and takes the power away from Duran, but what are everyone's thoughts here?

It will not happen until the fall. Plan accordingly.

Why not, if CDC reduces guidelines to 3 feet? Other than Duran and the SB not wanting to deal with logistics, aka - doing their job?

Do you have any idea how complex the logistics are? Offering a choice to the ones who,had to decide about virtual in December. Teachers, classrooms, bus routes, etc. Our numbers in this area are still not great. Just stop.

LCPS did it without offering a change to families who chose virtual. Only families who chose hybrid will move to 4 days a week.

That is total Bs, and I am not the suing type, but I would 100% sue APS if they did this.

Exactly. I’ve been very quiet in this whole debate, but we chose virtual back in December when the option was only two days on the table and no clue about when people would be vaccinated. They also threatened three days of asynchronous learning with that model. They try to go four days a week only for those already there, I will also dust off my inner Arlington Karen and be up in their faces.

You better get yourself on a hybrid waiting list. It's hard to say you have any right to in person if you've only ever requested virtual learning. APS isn't a mind reader.

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Anonymous wrote:I've been hoping/praying for the CDC to reduce the distancing guideline to 3 feet for schools (especially elementary). It seems like it may actually happen, but I'm skeptical and reluctant to think Duran will put the effort in place to open schools full-time ASAP. Hopefully Northam signs the bill with the emergency clause and takes the power away from Duran, but what are everyone's thoughts here?

It will not happen until the fall. Plan accordingly.

Why not, if CDC reduces guidelines to 3 feet? Other than Duran and the SB not wanting to deal with logistics, aka - doing their job?

Do you have any idea how complex the logistics are? Offering a choice to the ones who,had to decide about virtual in December. Teachers, classrooms, bus routes, etc. Our numbers in this area are still not great. Just stop.

LCPS did it without offering a change to families who chose virtual. Only families who chose hybrid will move to 4 days a week.

That is total Bs, and I am not the suing type, but I would 100% sue APS if they did this.

Yep!!

A change would likely just be for elementary school if there’s a change at all. They still are saying kids need to be at least 6 feet apart with a mask during lunch, which is not possible at the secondary level in the cafeterias.

Exactly. I’ve been very quiet in this whole debate, but we chose virtual back in December when the option was only two days on the table and no clue about when people would be vaccinated. They also threatened three days of asynchronous learning with that model. They try to go four days a week only for those already there, I will also dust off my inner Arlington Karen and be up in their faces.

You better get yourself on a hybrid waiting list. It's hard to say you have any right to in person if you've only ever requested virtual learning. APS isn't a mind reader.

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Anonymous wrote:THERE IT IS!!! CDC announces 3-feet distancing is enough for students!! Woo Hoo!!

Time to get them back in class at least 4 days ASAP!!!

Before celebrating please read the entire guidance. 3 feet when masked, 6 feet when not masked like in cafeterias. We cannot distance 200 kids in the cafeteria 6 feet apart. Because of the way middle schools use classrooms, you can’t just let kids eat in their classroom because it’s used for other classes. Secondary schools are not going to be able to do that quite yet. Elementary seems possible, except for those with 75% plus a hybrid rates. I’ll be interesting to see if APS releases data on this. If you can’t do it across elementary schools we won’t do it for equity reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the only thing this will change it allowing more kids to join the hyrbid model in elementary school.

I do not think they'll add more in person days.

why not? Kids are not sitting on each others laps in school...

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Anonymous wrote:No idea. I feel like for Duran there needs to be more outside pressure than there is now.

I am not sure how "difficult" it is to do or not. Is there really cost or difficulty, especially for elementary? If they wanted to they could turn on a dime I bet.

Personally, I think it is the right thing to do to get kids back in school. Not doing so is a cop out just like no school at all from March-June last year. It will harm education overall.

This said, they must reopen selections to all families if they offer more. It was already unfair enough to families to go with Fall 2020 selections and there would be rioting about the unfairness. Especially since there are wait-lists.

(On a personal level, my early elementary DC is enjoying hybrid and doing well, and for now I am quietly enjoying these last months home before life returns to normal and 5 day school in Fall, as it should be.)

It doesn't matter how "difficult" it is to figure out the logistics. Seriously, this has been an entire year. Excuses need to stop.

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Anonymous wrote:THERE IT IS!!! CDC announces 3-feet distancing is enough for students!! Woo Hoo!!

Time to get them back in class at least 4 days ASAP!!!

Before celebrating please read the entire guidance. 3 feet when masked, 6 feet when not masked like in cafeterias. We cannot distance 200 kids in the cafeteria 6 feet apart. Because of the way middle schools use classrooms, you can’t just let kids eat in their classroom because it’s used for other classes. Secondary schools are not going to be able to do that quite yet. Elementary seems possible, except for those with 75% plus a hybrid rates. I’ll be interesting to see if APS releases data on this. If you can’t do it across elementary schools we won’t do it for equity reasons.

My MS daughtet literally has 5 kids max in her classes.. I don't think MS and HS will have as many students in person as elementary.

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Anonymous wrote:I've been hoping/praying for the CDC to reduce the distancing guideline to 3 feet for schools (especially elementary). It seems like it may actually happen, but I'm skeptical and reluctant to think Duran will put the effort in place to open schools full-time ASAP. Hopefully Northam signs the bill with the emergency clause and takes the power away from Duran, but what are everyone's thoughts here?

It will not happen until the fall. Plan accordingly.

Why not, if CDC reduces guidelines to 3 feet? Other than Duran and the SB not wanting to deal with logistics, aka - doing their job?

Do you have any idea how complex the logistics are? Offering a choice to the ones who,had to decide about virtual in December. Teachers, classrooms, bus routes, etc. Our numbers in this area are still not great. Just stop.

LCPS did it without offering a change to families who chose virtual. Only families who chose hybrid will move to 4 days a week.

That is total Bs, and I am not the suing type, but I would 100% sue APS if they did this.

Exactly. I’ve been very quiet in this whole debate, but we chose virtual back in December when the option was only two days on the table and no clue about when people would be vaccinated. They also threatened three days of asynchronous learning with that model. They try to go four days a week only for those already there, I will also dust off my inner Arlington Karen and be up in their faces.

They had already changed hybrid to include 2 days live virtual teaching/1 day asynchronous by the time I chose in October.

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Anonymous wrote:THERE IT IS!!! CDC announces 3-feet distancing is enough for students!! Woo Hoo!!

Time to get them back in class at least 4 days ASAP!!!

Did you read all the parts of the recommendation? Keep all the kids in one block through the day, and in secondary schools and areas with high transmission rates (we’re still red), keep to six feet. No one wants to read all the conditions,

Arlington has been out of the red zone for the last 10 days.

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Anonymous wrote:THERE IT IS!!! CDC announces 3-feet distancing is enough for students!! Woo Hoo!!

Time to get them back in class at least 4 days ASAP!!!

Did you read all the parts of the recommendation? Keep all the kids in one block through the day, and in secondary schools and areas with high transmission rates (we’re still red), keep to six feet. No one wants to read all the conditions,

Arlington has been out of the red zone for the last 10 days.

That’s not true. Not the CDC Red zone. In fact, cases in Arlington have inched up the past two days according to VDH. Hopefully just a blip.

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Anonymous wrote:THERE IT IS!!! CDC announces 3-feet distancing is enough for students!! Woo Hoo!!

Time to get them back in class at least 4 days ASAP!!!

Did you read all the parts of the recommendation? Keep all the kids in one block through the day, and in secondary schools and areas with high transmission rates (we’re still red), keep to six feet. No one wants to read all the conditions,

Arlington has been out of the red zone for the last 10 days.

That’s not true. Not the CDC Red zone. In fact, cases in Arlington have inched up the past two days according to VDH. Hopefully just a blip.

It most definitely is true. the CDC red zone is more than 100 cases per 10,000 population summed over the last 7 days.
Arlington dipped below this on March 11th (98). It's inched back up the last 2 days, but there is every reason to think it will drop back donw.

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Anonymous wrote:THERE IT IS!!! CDC announces 3-feet distancing is enough for students!! Woo Hoo!!

Time to get them back in class at least 4 days ASAP!!!

Before celebrating please read the entire guidance. 3 feet when masked, 6 feet when not masked like in cafeterias. We cannot distance 200 kids in the cafeteria 6 feet apart. Because of the way middle schools use classrooms, you can’t just let kids eat in their classroom because it’s used for other classes. Secondary schools are not going to be able to do that quite yet. Elementary seems possible, except for those with 75% plus a hybrid rates. I’ll be interesting to see if APS releases data on this. If you can’t do it across elementary schools we won’t do it for equity reasons.

My MS daughtet literally has 5 kids max in her classes.. I don't think MS and HS will have as many students in person as elementary.

You have to look at the most crowded/highest hybrid schools because they aren't going to pick and choose which schools go back, as to be equitable to all. At WMS the population low on T/W and on Th/F, they are at max capacity in some classes. Lunch is full (100 kids) and the new CDC guidance is 6 feet unmasked. They can't shove 200 kids in the cafeteria. Not trying to be negative nelly, but there are some serious constraints.

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Anonymous wrote:THERE IT IS!!! CDC announces 3-feet distancing is enough for students!! Woo Hoo!!

Time to get them back in class at least 4 days ASAP!!!

Before celebrating please read the entire guidance. 3 feet when masked, 6 feet when not masked like in cafeterias. We cannot distance 200 kids in the cafeteria 6 feet apart. Because of the way middle schools use classrooms, you can’t just let kids eat in their classroom because it’s used for other classes. Secondary schools are not going to be able to do that quite yet. Elementary seems possible, except for those with 75% plus a hybrid rates. I’ll be interesting to see if APS releases data on this. If you can’t do it across elementary schools we won’t do it for equity reasons.

My MS daughtet literally has 5 kids max in her classes.. I don't think MS and HS will have as many students in person as elementary.

You have to look at the most crowded/highest hybrid schools because they aren't going to pick and choose which schools go back, as to be equitable to all. At WMS the population low on T/W and on Th/F, they are at max capacity in some classes. Lunch is full (100 kids) and the new CDC guidance is 6 feet unmasked. They can't shove 200 kids in the cafeteria. Not trying to be negative nelly, but there are some serious constraints.

I see that point. It sounds more promising for elementary students.

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Anonymous wrote:I've been hoping/praying for the CDC to reduce the distancing guideline to 3 feet for schools (especially elementary). It seems like it may actually happen, but I'm skeptical and reluctant to think Duran will put the effort in place to open schools full-time ASAP. Hopefully Northam signs the bill with the emergency clause and takes the power away from Duran, but what are everyone's thoughts here?

It will not happen until the fall. Plan accordingly.

Why not, if CDC reduces guidelines to 3 feet? Other than Duran and the SB not wanting to deal with logistics, aka - doing their job?

Do you have any idea how complex the logistics are? Offering a choice to the ones who,had to decide about virtual in December. Teachers, classrooms, bus routes, etc. Our numbers in this area are still not great. Just stop.

LCPS did it without offering a change to families who chose virtual. Only families who chose hybrid will move to 4 days a week.

That is total Bs, and I am not the suing type, but I would 100% sue APS if they did this.

Exactly. I’ve been very quiet in this whole debate, but we chose virtual back in December when the option was only two days on the table and no clue about when people would be vaccinated. They also threatened three days of asynchronous learning with that model. They try to go four days a week only for those already there, I will also dust off my inner Arlington Karen and be up in their faces.

You better get yourself on a hybrid waiting list. It's hard to say you have any right to in person if you've only ever requested virtual learning. APS isn't a mind reader.

They need to re-open the selection model, at least for ES. Just allowing those families with the time, patience, knowledge, etc. to call the schools to inquire about the waiting lists doesn't seem fair.

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Can we please get rid of the useless forehead scanners? They're a false sense of security.