High-stat kids w/o great college options

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just for some perspective, for posters who think that everyone on DCUM has a high stats student. A score of 1550 plus is earned by just 6000 students (out of 2.3 million). The number of students with such a high SAT score and a perfect GPA is likely even smaller. If there are say 4000 or so truly high stats students, it is odd that admissions to a top 20 school is a crapshoot.
It makes you wonder whether academic merit is valued by the top colleges

Perspective? Oh honey YOU are actually not informed.

https://www.prepscholar.com/sat/s/scores/1550-SAT-score-is-this-good

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just for some perspective, for posters who think that everyone on DCUM has a high stats student. A score of 1550 plus is earned by just 6000 students (out of 2.3 million). The number of students with such a high SAT score and a perfect GPA is likely even smaller. If there are say 4000 or so truly high stats students, it is odd that admissions to a top 20 school is a crapshoot.
It makes you wonder whether academic merit is valued by the top colleges

Perspective? Oh honey YOU are actually not informed.

https://www.prepscholar.com/sat/s/scores/1550-SAT-score-is-this-good

I like how the link says that if you raise your score by 50 points (to a perfect 1600) it doesn’t change your admission chances at all. And this link is from a company selling test prep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just for some perspective, for posters who think that everyone on DCUM has a high stats student. A score of 1550 plus is earned by just 6000 students (out of 2.3 million). The number of students with such a high SAT score and a perfect GPA is likely even smaller. If there are say 4000 or so truly high stats students, it is odd that admissions to a top 20 school is a crapshoot.
It makes you wonder whether academic merit is valued by the top colleges

Perspective? Oh honey YOU are actually not informed.

https://www.prepscholar.com/sat/s/scores/1550-SAT-score-is-this-good

I like how the link says that if you raise your score by 50 points (to a perfect 1600) it doesn’t change your admission chances at all. And this link is from a company selling test prep.

Out of 2.13 million test takers
20,000 score above 1500
6,000 score above 1550
750 score 1600

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a couple of kids in Ivy so we are experienced in college admissions. However, It is so unpredictable this year unlike previous years. My current senior is ready to go to the state school that He got accepted into. So we are not that stressed and assume that he won’t get into Ivy unless he gets lucky..

You can be plenty experienced in college admissions without having a couple kids in an Ivy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just for some perspective, for posters who think that everyone on DCUM has a high stats student. A score of 1550 plus is earned by just 6000 students (out of 2.3 million). The number of students with such a high SAT score and a perfect GPA is likely even smaller. If there are say 4000 or so truly high stats students, it is odd that admissions to a top 20 school is a crapshoot.
It makes you wonder whether academic merit is valued by the top colleges

Perspective? Oh honey YOU are actually not informed.

https://www.prepscholar.com/sat/s/scores/1550-SAT-score-is-this-good

I like how the link says that if you raise your score by 50 points (to a perfect 1600) it doesn’t change your admission chances at all. And this link is from a company selling test prep.

Out of 2.13 million test takers
20,000 score above 1500
6,000 score above 1550
750 score 1600

And, to illustrate that scores are not the end all be all, using Ivy as a proxy for top schools since stats are so widely published, for the Class of 2024: 21,894 offers of admissions were extended, some duplicates, and the 25th percentile ranges from 1420-1470, and the 50th generally straddling the 1500 line. So just under half of admitted students are under 1500; so clearly not everyone scoring over 1500 will get an offer at an Ivy league school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This isn't new. The top 100-150 schools are great and there are high stat kids at all of them.

+1

Our high-stats kid is at what DCUM would term a second-tier school, simply because of money. We can't pay for a top tier school, so DC didn't apply to any.

It's not a problem.

Same with ours. Happy with our choices.

Really, from what I've seen the only thing that takes even the most super-qualified, top stats, national awards etc. out of "crap shoot" territory for the top ranked schools is a strong legacy connection, major donors, recruited athletes and preferably more than one of these. If you see "lots" of kids around you getting into those schools I'm guessing you know a lot of legacy kids. Still need that high-level profile but there are really very few spots for the unhooked.

+1000 THIS. Read it and believe it. The kids at our school that have already gotten into Ivies, Stanford, and other top 10 schools fall into these categories. A few are also URM, which isn’t mentioned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just for some perspective, for posters who think that everyone on DCUM has a high stats student. A score of 1550 plus is earned by just 6000 students (out of 2.3 million). The number of students with such a high SAT score and a perfect GPA is likely even smaller. If there are say 4000 or so truly high stats students, it is odd that admissions to a top 20 school is a crapshoot.
It makes you wonder whether academic merit is valued by the top colleges

Perspective? Oh honey YOU are actually not informed.

https://www.prepscholar.com/sat/s/scores/1550-SAT-score-is-this-good

I like how the link says that if you raise your score by 50 points (to a perfect 1600) it doesn’t change your admission chances at all. And this link is from a company selling test prep.

Yes, it makes perfect sense that saying "if you raise your score by 50 points (to a perfect 1600) it doesn’t change your admission chances at all" is from a company selling test prep because they cannot help you to improve from 1550 to 1600.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I think I will have some serious health issues due to the college admission process. I am so freaking stressed. Kid is a Junior. High Stat. But who is not high Stat right now?

I understand college admission process would add a lot of stress, but I do not understand why it will create serious health issues for you.

Hyperbole.

Look it up. Your kid probably studied the word in SAT prep.

[Anonymous]

There is a perfect school for everyone. People need to let go with the numbers. Our older high achiever son got rejected from all of the top 20 schools he applied to. Wound up at a top 40 school, had a wonderful, successful experience that exceeded his expectations, and attended the top grad school in his field for free. There are wonderful schools and programs within schools that are ranked lower than 20 nationally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a perfect school for everyone. People need to let go with the numbers. Our older high achiever son got rejected from all of the top 20 schools he applied to. Wound up at a top 40 school, had a wonderful, successful experience that exceeded his expectations, and attended the top grad school in his field for free. There are wonderful schools and programs within schools that are ranked lower than 20 nationally.

The US higher education system is a wonder of the world. It's truly amazing that there are so many amazing opportunities. And it's just the beginning of your kid's career. Where you start is not where you end up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a perfect school for everyone. People need to let go with the numbers. Our older high achiever son got rejected from all of the top 20 schools he applied to. Wound up at a top 40 school, had a wonderful, successful experience that exceeded his expectations, and attended the top grad school in his field for free. There are wonderful schools and programs within schools that are ranked lower than 20 nationally.

Yet another case of, "Where you go is not who you'll be" (Frank Bruni).

Ivy humpers take note.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a perfect school for everyone. People need to let go with the numbers. Our older high achiever son got rejected from all of the top 20 schools he applied to. Wound up at a top 40 school, had a wonderful, successful experience that exceeded his expectations, and attended the top grad school in his field for free. There are wonderful schools and programs within schools that are ranked lower than 20 nationally.

The US higher education system is a wonder of the world. It's truly amazing that there are so many amazing opportunities. And it's just the beginning of your kid's career. Where you start is not where you end up.

I agree that the US higher education system is the envy of the world. Too bad some think it’s just a liberal brainwashing system. Obviously, most of the world begs to differ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a perfect school for everyone. People need to let go with the numbers. Our older high achiever son got rejected from all of the top 20 schools he applied to. Wound up at a top 40 school, had a wonderful, successful experience that exceeded his expectations, and attended the top grad school in his field for free. There are wonderful schools and programs within schools that are ranked lower than 20 nationally.

Yet another case of, "Where you go is not who you'll be" (Frank Bruni).

Ivy humpers take note.

Yeah, same guy who matriculated to an Ivy the first chance he got.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every kid is high stats now thanks to the gat dang coronavirus. Teachers have dialed back expectations, handing out A's like they're frigg'n candy to any kid who can figure out how to get his gat dang zoom connection to work. And with every frigg'n college going test optional (or worse, test blind, meaning they won't even consider SAT/ACT scores if you submit them) it's tougher for the legit superstars to set themselves apart. This whole situation sux knutts for the kids who can crush standardized tests and make straight A's not just because their teachers feel guilty saddling them with a B during a pandemic.

This is hilariously untrue. My kid has barely made any “gat dang” As this year, despite being virtual and despite working her tail off. I’m so sorry your “legit superstar” kid has to compete with mine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every kid is high stats now thanks to the gat dang coronavirus. Teachers have dialed back expectations, handing out A's like they're frigg'n candy to any kid who can figure out how to get his gat dang zoom connection to work. And with every frigg'n college going test optional (or worse, test blind, meaning they won't even consider SAT/ACT scores if you submit them) it's tougher for the legit superstars to set themselves apart. This whole situation sux knutts for the kids who can crush standardized tests and make straight A's not just because their teachers feel guilty saddling them with a B during a pandemic.

This post is a baseless and pointless rant.