APS - why are teachers so terrified?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We had parent teacher conferences and all four of my kids teachers seemed VERY excited to return. So … #NotAllTeachers?

Yes!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, either. I don't understand why a parent, after hearing one young, inexperienced teacher talk to one 2nd grade class in APS, would assume that ALL APS teachers are "terrified."

If you have a complaint about this teacher scaring 2nd graders, take it up with the AP or principal. But FFS, do not assume that all teachers are in agreement with this teacher.

Have you seen the social media posts and the teachers speaking at school board meetings? It may not be all, but there is a large cohort who expects significant numbers of teachers and their family members to die within a week of reopening.

It’s like the same five people.

[Anonymous]

I’m terrified of spiders. Am I saying that right?

[Anonymous]

I’m an APS teacher, and I am ready to go back. I wouldn’t have been comfortable in the fall, but I am grateful to this community for being smart and waiting until there was a vaccine and CoVID was more under control.

I’m wouldn’t lump all the parents together (because some are batshit crazy) and I hope you don’t lump all the teachers together (because some are batshit crazy).

Most parents have been really supportive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m an APS teacher, and I am ready to go back. I wouldn’t have been comfortable in the fall, but I am grateful to this community for being smart and waiting until there was a vaccine and CoVID was more under control.

I’m wouldn’t lump all the parents together (because some are batshit crazy) and I hope you don’t lump all the teachers together (because some are batshit crazy).

Most parents have been really supportive.

This. This. This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, either. I don't understand why a parent, after hearing one young, inexperienced teacher talk to one 2nd grade class in APS, would assume that ALL APS teachers are "terrified."

If you have a complaint about this teacher scaring 2nd graders, take it up with the AP or principal. But FFS, do not assume that all teachers are in agreement with this teacher.

Have you seen the social media posts and the teachers speaking at school board meetings? It may not be all, but there is a large cohort who expects significant numbers of teachers and their family members to die within a week of reopening.

It’s like the same five people.

They aren't really afraid of dying within a week of reopening. They just don't want to deal with the hassle of actually leaving their houses and getting to their places of employment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, either. I don't understand why a parent, after hearing one young, inexperienced teacher talk to one 2nd grade class in APS, would assume that ALL APS teachers are "terrified."

If you have a complaint about this teacher scaring 2nd graders, take it up with the AP or principal. But FFS, do not assume that all teachers are in agreement with this teacher.

Have you seen the social media posts and the teachers speaking at school board meetings? It may not be all, but there is a large cohort who expects significant numbers of teachers and their family members to die within a week of reopening.

It’s like the same five people.

They aren't really afraid of dying within a week of reopening. They just don't want to deal with the hassle of actually leaving their houses and getting to their places of employment.

It’s going to be such a bummer for you when this is all over and your gripes will need to get more creative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, either. I don't understand why a parent, after hearing one young, inexperienced teacher talk to one 2nd grade class in APS, would assume that ALL APS teachers are "terrified."

If you have a complaint about this teacher scaring 2nd graders, take it up with the AP or principal. But FFS, do not assume that all teachers are in agreement with this teacher.

Have you seen the social media posts and the teachers speaking at school board meetings? It may not be all, but there is a large cohort who expects significant numbers of teachers and their family members to die within a week of reopening.

It’s like the same five people.

They aren't really afraid of dying within a week of reopening. They just don't want to deal with the hassle of actually leaving their houses and getting to their places of employment.

Again, it’s like five people. Just like there are five parents that think they have to speak at every school board meeting, too. We know where all of these ten people stand. Let’s move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m an APS teacher, and I am ready to go back. I wouldn’t have been comfortable in the fall, but I am grateful to this community for being smart and waiting until there was a vaccine and CoVID was more under control.

I’m wouldn’t lump all the parents together (because some are batshit crazy) and I hope you don’t lump all the teachers together (because some are batshit crazy).

Most parents have been really supportive.

This. This. This.

x1 million

[Anonymous]

Some are afraid because, as we know, none of the vaccines is 100 percent effective, and we have no way — except the hard way — of determining which individuals might be in the group that has not been protected by the vaccine. We also do not know how long the vaccines will protect us or if they protect against newer strains of the virus.

Others are afraid because we do not yet know if vaccinated people can still transmit the virus to others. Many of this overwhelmingly female workforce may provide at least some care for older, vulnerable relatives. So I think the fears are justified and perhaps provide updates that address these concerns would be useful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some are afraid because, as we know, none of the vaccines is 100 percent effective, and we have no way — except the hard way — of determining which individuals might be in the group that has not been protected by the vaccine. We also do not know how long the vaccines will protect us or if they protect against newer strains of the virus.

Others are afraid because we do not yet know if vaccinated people can still transmit the virus to others. Many of this overwhelmingly female workforce may provide at least some care for older, vulnerable relatives. So I think the fears are justified and perhaps provide updates that address these concerns would be useful.

We do know a lot of this. We 100% know that the vaccine effectiveness will last through the end of the school year. We also know that the vaccines 100% prevent against hospitalization and death. The vaccines also are nearly completely effective against severe illness and still very very effective against all symptoms. We also now have data showing that they greatly reduce transmission. Please look at actual data. It's truly fantastic.

On top of this, APS is implementing safety measures and distancing that the Biden CDC says are sufficient to stop transmission without vaccination.

Arlington has also started vaccinating high risk and older individuals, so any at risk family members will be protected soon too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are afraid because opening schools is a political move dictated by irate parents, and the administration always sides with parents over teachers so when you mask non compliance they know it won’t be handled in their favor.

Also, she may been reading about B117 which they believe spreads more easily among children and is more deadly.

It’s a science-based move, actually. Keep on trying, though.

What science? The variants are changing the science as we speak, and we still have high spread in Arlington, as seen in NYT above.

Teachers are clearly not essential, they close for the summer and the lights didn’t go out or pantries empty bc they didn’t go into school buildings. That’s just the facts.

go live in a bubble.. teachers are essential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, either. I don't understand why a parent, after hearing one young, inexperienced teacher talk to one 2nd grade class in APS, would assume that ALL APS teachers are "terrified."

If you have a complaint about this teacher scaring 2nd graders, take it up with the AP or principal. But FFS, do not assume that all teachers are in agreement with this teacher.

Have you seen the social media posts and the teachers speaking at school board meetings? It may not be all, but there is a large cohort who expects significant numbers of teachers and their family members to die within a week of reopening.

It’s like the same five people.

They aren't really afraid of dying within a week of reopening. They just don't want to deal with the hassle of actually leaving their houses and getting to their places of employment.

It’s going to be such a bummer for you when this is all over and your gripes will need to get more creative.

I’m a teacher and I have to say, there is a kernel of truth to PP’s statement. I have several colleagues who are largely irritated to be back. Not because they feel unsafe. But because home was convenient and they don’t see this amount of kids as worth going in. I hate to say it and it’s not the MAJORITY. But this is true in some cases. Most of us , once we hit the vaccine we were good to go and happy to return. The ones still pushing back on a return have different reasons but this definitely one of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, either. I don't understand why a parent, after hearing one young, inexperienced teacher talk to one 2nd grade class in APS, would assume that ALL APS teachers are "terrified."

If you have a complaint about this teacher scaring 2nd graders, take it up with the AP or principal. But FFS, do not assume that all teachers are in agreement with this teacher.

Have you seen the social media posts and the teachers speaking at school board meetings? It may not be all, but there is a large cohort who expects significant numbers of teachers and their family members to die within a week of reopening.

It’s like the same five people.

They aren't really afraid of dying within a week of reopening. They just don't want to deal with the hassle of actually leaving their houses and getting to their places of employment.

It’s going to be such a bummer for you when this is all over and your gripes will need to get more creative.

I’m a teacher and I have to say, there is a kernel of truth to PP’s statement. I have several colleagues who are largely irritated to be back. Not because they feel unsafe. But because home was convenient and they don’t see this amount of kids as worth going in. I hate to say it and it’s not the MAJORITY. But this is true in some cases. Most of us , once we hit the vaccine we were good to go and happy to return. The ones still pushing back on a return have different reasons but this definitely one of them.

And be fair to your colleagues at home. This year has sucked, but they haven’t been twiddling their thumbs and having fun at home. Have you?

This year has been horrible, and going from virtual to concurrent (and to try and do a good job) will also be a bitch. Ready to go back, want to do what’s best for everyone- but it really pisses me off when people think we’re not working. I am, anyway. I do worry when I go back in I’ll be losing some time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, either. I don't understand why a parent, after hearing one young, inexperienced teacher talk to one 2nd grade class in APS, would assume that ALL APS teachers are "terrified."

If you have a complaint about this teacher scaring 2nd graders, take it up with the AP or principal. But FFS, do not assume that all teachers are in agreement with this teacher.

Have you seen the social media posts and the teachers speaking at school board meetings? It may not be all, but there is a large cohort who expects significant numbers of teachers and their family members to die within a week of reopening.

It’s like the same five people.

They aren't really afraid of dying within a week of reopening. They just don't want to deal with the hassle of actually leaving their houses and getting to their places of employment.

It’s going to be such a bummer for you when this is all over and your gripes will need to get more creative.

I’m a teacher and I have to say, there is a kernel of truth to PP’s statement. I have several colleagues who are largely irritated to be back. Not because they feel unsafe. But because home was convenient and they don’t see this amount of kids as worth going in. I hate to say it and it’s not the MAJORITY. But this is true in some cases. Most of us , once we hit the vaccine we were good to go and happy to return. The ones still pushing back on a return have different reasons but this definitely one of them.

I'm glad teachers can get vaccinated, but am still frustrated that there are teachers who don't want to return when there is a vaccine that they have priority for. My federal agency returned to work ages ago without a vaccine. Our solution for social distancing involves shift schedules that start at 4am. I get to do this then come home and take over classroom proctoring.