In-person school plans

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the kids have high risk family members, they will
also be vaccinated. Al adults will be vaccinated shortly. Covid is just not that dangerous to healthy people. Anyone who wants to can keep their kids home for the rest of the year.

Once teachers are vaccinated, there’s no need for anything other than masks for the rest of the years. Five days a week school is supported by the science.

The vaccine isn't approved for kids under 16. It will not be approved for another year or two as per FDA regulations. in a few years will be as common as the flu vaccine for kids but not right now

Students do not need to be vaccinated to return to school. No one other than unions are saying this. Even the new administration wants all schools open in 100 days. TeChers are going to be on the wrong side.

MCEA isn’t saying that either.

But for perspective in the vaccine:

“First, the vaccine is not 100% effective. There is still a chance that someone who has received the vaccine can get Covid-19. This is particularly true as there are many parts of the country that are undergoing substantial surges of infection. The rate of community transmission is very high, so there is still going to be a chance of contracting coronavirus even after getting vaccinated.

Second, the vaccine has not yet been shown to reduce transmission of the virus. We don't know if people who are vaccinated could still be carriers of the virus, even if they don't get sick. That means you could be protected yourself if you get exposed to someone with coronavirus, but you could still be a carrier of the virus. When you get together with your loved ones, you could spread it to those who aren't vaccinated.

If your grandkids live in the area, you could definitely safely see them outside, 6 feet apart. If you want to see them indoors, there is going to be some level of risk. That risk will be much lower than if you were not vaccinated, but the risk is still going to be there to you. And you could still be a risk to the unvaccinated members of your family, as you could be an asymptomatic carrier who transmits to them.“

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/10/health/grandparents-visits-covid-19-vaccine-wellnesss/index.html


Replace the phrases “loved ones” and grandkids with students and it is understandable why some teachers would be leery of in person if students are not vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are going to LOVE Chicago’s solution:

The district has created “care rooms” and “care pods” to isolate sick children that include hospital-grade pop-up temporary structures that some have likened on social media to “plastic cages” for children that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement might use.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/chicago-teachers-balk-at-reopening-plan-face-pay-loss-if-they-dont-return/

Hyperbole, much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are going to LOVE Chicago’s solution:

The district has created “care rooms” and “care pods” to isolate sick children that include hospital-grade pop-up temporary structures that some have likened on social media to “plastic cages” for children that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement might use.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/chicago-teachers-balk-at-reopening-plan-face-pay-loss-if-they-dont-return/

Hyperbole, much?

So you won’t object to their use here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are going to LOVE Chicago’s solution:

The district has created “care rooms” and “care pods” to isolate sick children that include hospital-grade pop-up temporary structures that some have likened on social media to “plastic cages” for children that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement might use.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/chicago-teachers-balk-at-reopening-plan-face-pay-loss-if-they-dont-return/

Hyperbole, much?

So you won’t object to their use here?

People are dining in them. Socializing in them. Why not learn in them? It's a freakin' pandemic...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are going to LOVE Chicago’s solution:

The district has created “care rooms” and “care pods” to isolate sick children that include hospital-grade pop-up temporary structures that some have likened on social media to “plastic cages” for children that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement might use.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/chicago-teachers-balk-at-reopening-plan-face-pay-loss-if-they-dont-return/

Hyperbole, much?

So you won’t object to their use here?

People are dining in them. Socializing in them. Why not learn in them? It's a freakin' pandemic...

People are also eating at home and not socializing with non-household members so they don’t unnecessarily risk infection. Because it’s a freakin’ pandemic.

But sure. Let’s have Zoom in the classroom with infected kids attending in plastic bubbles as long as you can go back to Pilates class, Jennifer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are going to LOVE Chicago’s solution:

The district has created “care rooms” and “care pods” to isolate sick children that include hospital-grade pop-up temporary structures that some have likened on social media to “plastic cages” for children that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement might use.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/chicago-teachers-balk-at-reopening-plan-face-pay-loss-if-they-dont-return/

Hyperbole, much?

So you won’t object to their use here?

People are dining in them. Socializing in them. Why not learn in them? It's a freakin' pandemic...

People are also eating at home and not socializing with non-household members so they don’t unnecessarily risk infection. Because it’s a freakin’ pandemic.

But sure. Let’s have Zoom in the classroom with infected kids attending in plastic bubbles as long as you can go back to Pilates class, Jennifer.

No "Jennifer". I'm a special ed para...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are going to LOVE Chicago’s solution:

The district has created “care rooms” and “care pods” to isolate sick children that include hospital-grade pop-up temporary structures that some have likened on social media to “plastic cages” for children that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement might use.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/chicago-teachers-balk-at-reopening-plan-face-pay-loss-if-they-dont-return/

Hyperbole, much?

So you won’t object to their use here?

People are dining in them. Socializing in them. Why not learn in them? It's a freakin' pandemic...

People are also eating at home and not socializing with non-household members so they don’t unnecessarily risk infection. Because it’s a freakin’ pandemic.

But sure. Let’s have Zoom in the classroom with infected kids attending in plastic bubbles as long as you can go back to Pilates class, Jennifer.

The question is how much do we want in-person class? In what ways will we bend to let it happen?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are going to LOVE Chicago’s solution:

The district has created “care rooms” and “care pods” to isolate sick children that include hospital-grade pop-up temporary structures that some have likened on social media to “plastic cages” for children that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement might use.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/chicago-teachers-balk-at-reopening-plan-face-pay-loss-if-they-dont-return/

Hyperbole, much?

So you won’t object to their use here?

People are dining in them. Socializing in them. Why not learn in them? It's a freakin' pandemic...

People are also eating at home and not socializing with non-household members so they don’t unnecessarily risk infection. Because it’s a freakin’ pandemic.

But sure. Let’s have Zoom in the classroom with infected kids attending in plastic bubbles as long as you can go back to Pilates class, Jennifer.

No "Jennifer". I'm a special ed para...

That’s even more alarming! You’d be fine with putting in bubbles kids who can’t understand? I know your job is at risk if kids don’t return in person soon, but wow, you sound heartless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are going to LOVE Chicago’s solution:

The district has created “care rooms” and “care pods” to isolate sick children that include hospital-grade pop-up temporary structures that some have likened on social media to “plastic cages” for children that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement might use.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/chicago-teachers-balk-at-reopening-plan-face-pay-loss-if-they-dont-return/

Hyperbole, much?

So you won’t object to their use here?

People are dining in them. Socializing in them. Why not learn in them? It's a freakin' pandemic...

People are also eating at home and not socializing with non-household members so they don’t unnecessarily risk infection. Because it’s a freakin’ pandemic.

But sure. Let’s have Zoom in the classroom with infected kids attending in plastic bubbles as long as you can go back to Pilates class, Jennifer.

DP. I don't understand your problem. Teachers will be vaccinated. The effect on children is minimal, and parents who don't want their kids to be exposed will be able to keep them home. In terms of community spread, if bars and restaurants can be open, then schools can be too.

As long as teachers have their first vaccine by March 1, schools should be open by then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the kids have high risk family members, they will
also be vaccinated. Al adults will be vaccinated shortly. Covid is just not that dangerous to healthy people. Anyone who wants to can keep their kids home for the rest of the year.

Once teachers are vaccinated, there’s no need for anything other than masks for the rest of the years. Five days a week school is supported by the science.

The vaccine isn't approved for kids under 16. It will not be approved for another year or two as per FDA regulations. in a few years will be as common as the flu vaccine for kids but not right now

Students do not need to be vaccinated to return to school. No one other than unions are saying this. Even the new administration wants all schools open in 100 days. TeChers are going to be on the wrong side.

MCEA isn’t saying that either.

But for perspective in the vaccine:

“First, the vaccine is not 100% effective. There is still a chance that someone who has received the vaccine can get Covid-19. This is particularly true as there are many parts of the country that are undergoing substantial surges of infection. The rate of community transmission is very high, so there is still going to be a chance of contracting coronavirus even after getting vaccinated.

Second, the vaccine has not yet been shown to reduce transmission of the virus. We don't know if people who are vaccinated could still be carriers of the virus, even if they don't get sick. That means you could be protected yourself if you get exposed to someone with coronavirus, but you could still be a carrier of the virus. When you get together with your loved ones, you could spread it to those who aren't vaccinated.

If your grandkids live in the area, you could definitely safely see them outside, 6 feet apart. If you want to see them indoors, there is going to be some level of risk. That risk will be much lower than if you were not vaccinated, but the risk is still going to be there to you. And you could still be a risk to the unvaccinated members of your family, as you could be an asymptomatic carrier who transmits to them.“

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/10/health/grandparents-visits-covid-19-vaccine-wellnesss/index.html


Replace the phrases “loved ones” and grandkids with students and it is understandable why some teachers would be leery of in person if students are not vaccinated.

The president elect of MCEA referred to vaccination of students in the Washington Post as a condition.

Schools cannot be completely closed to any type of in person instruction until there is zero risk of COVID. It’s an absurd argument and not backed up by emerging data. We put bars and unions before children and families unlike other countries. It’s disgraceful. Sure it’s possible someone could transmit the virus after being vaccinated. A lot of things are possible. Schools can’t be closed for years. At some point some level of vaccination becomes enough to trade off the risks of COVID against the benefits of in person education.

Teachers who would advocate for continuing DL after teacher vaccinated aren’t doing so because they care about students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That’s even more alarming! You’d be fine with putting in bubbles kids who can’t understand? I know your job is at risk if kids don’t return in person soon, but wow, you sound heartless.

I think you underestimate what kids understand.

[Anonymous]

So, Covid rates among teachers can be up four times higher than the general population:
https://inews.co.uk/news/education/coronavirus-schools-virus-rates-teachers-higher-local-community-figures-818457

You can understand why teachers so concerned.

The new Covid strain is expected to be the dominant strain by the end of March.

The vaccine protects a teacher from death but not from infection. Teachers are still very nervous about bringing the virus home and spreading it to family even if they themselves are protected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are going to LOVE Chicago’s solution:

The district has created “care rooms” and “care pods” to isolate sick children that include hospital-grade pop-up temporary structures that some have likened on social media to “plastic cages” for children that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement might use.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/chicago-teachers-balk-at-reopening-plan-face-pay-loss-if-they-dont-return/

Hyperbole, much?

So you won’t object to their use here?

People are dining in them. Socializing in them. Why not learn in them? It's a freakin' pandemic...

If parents send sick kids to school or they develop symptoms at school they can't just hang out in the classroom and they need to not infect other kids in the health room who don't have covid. Its a pragmatic solution

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are going to LOVE Chicago’s solution:

The district has created “care rooms” and “care pods” to isolate sick children that include hospital-grade pop-up temporary structures that some have likened on social media to “plastic cages” for children that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement might use.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/chicago-teachers-balk-at-reopening-plan-face-pay-loss-if-they-dont-return/

Hyperbole, much?

So you won’t object to their use here?

People are dining in them. Socializing in them. Why not learn in them? It's a freakin' pandemic...

People are also eating at home and not socializing with non-household members so they don’t unnecessarily risk infection. Because it’s a freakin’ pandemic.

But sure. Let’s have Zoom in the classroom with infected kids attending in plastic bubbles as long as you can go back to Pilates class, Jennifer.

DP. I don't understand your problem. Teachers will be vaccinated. The effect on children is minimal, and parents who don't want their kids to be exposed will be able to keep them home. In terms of community spread, if bars and restaurants can be open, then schools can be too.

As long as teachers have their first vaccine by March 1, schools should be open by then.

Mcps has said they will reopen based on community spread metrics of 15/10,0000. they haven't made any official decisions about reopening pending teachers getting vaccinated if community spread is still high.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, Covid rates among teachers can be up four times higher than the general population:
https://inews.co.uk/news/education/coronavirus-schools-virus-rates-teachers-higher-local-community-figures-818457

You can understand why teachers so concerned.

The new Covid strain is expected to be the dominant strain by the end of March.

The vaccine protects a teacher from death but not from infection. Teachers are still very nervous about bringing the virus home and spreading it to family even if they themselves are protected.

Teachers in MD will begin getting vaccines at the end of this month.