In-person school plans

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man getting kids back into buildings whether it happens this spring or fall is going to be tough. Luckily taxpayers are paying $400k a year to Jack Smith to figure it out and make hard decisions. What’s that now? He’s retiring in June so has no skin in the game and won’t take the fall for kids not being back in September?

Really, this is what the new blame game will be? Not COVID? Not in a pandemic? Not that people will not stay home when they can to help stop the spread?

This person doesn't let something small and silly like the pandemic distract them from the truly important and lasting issue of hating on the MCPS superintendent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP mentions this. As I understand it, hybrid (doing virtual 2 days and in person 2 days) is off the table.

Is that true?

Don't know if it's off the table everywhere, but my kids' elementary school principal told us that the plans they were working on were 4 days a week in-person (with direct instruction for younger grades and "supervised virtual learning" for the older grades - I'm the OP of this thread). Wednesdays would be distant for everyone.

We are hearing two days in person with two groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP mentions this. As I understand it, hybrid (doing virtual 2 days and in person 2 days) is off the table.

Is that true?

Don't know if it's off the table everywhere, but my kids' elementary school principal told us that the plans they were working on were 4 days a week in-person (with direct instruction for younger grades and "supervised virtual learning" for the older grades - I'm the OP of this thread). Wednesdays would be distant for everyone.

We are hearing two days in person with two groups.

So...what would happen the other 2 days? Forgive me if I'm being dense, but would it look like this, hypothetically?

Monday: DL at home, Group A at home, Group B in school

Tuesday: DL at home, Group A at school, Group B at home

Wednesday: Everyone at home

etc

Would the full-time DL kids remain in the same class as the kids coming in part-time?

Would the Groups still get 5 days/week of instruction (knowing that Wednesdays are weird)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP mentions this. As I understand it, hybrid (doing virtual 2 days and in person 2 days) is off the table.

Is that true?

Don't know if it's off the table everywhere, but my kids' elementary school principal told us that the plans they were working on were 4 days a week in-person (with direct instruction for younger grades and "supervised virtual learning" for the older grades - I'm the OP of this thread). Wednesdays would be distant for everyone.

We are hearing two days in person with two groups.

So...what would happen the other 2 days? Forgive me if I'm being dense, but would it look like this, hypothetically?

Monday: DL at home, Group A at home, Group B in school

Tuesday: DL at home, Group A at school, Group B at home

Wednesday: Everyone at home

etc

Would the full-time DL kids remain in the same class as the kids coming in part-time?

Would the Groups still get 5 days/week of instruction (knowing that Wednesdays are weird)?

And that's the tricky bit. It will look different for each school depending on how many students selected in-person return. This is why the concurrent model is being suggested, otherwise the number of staff needed would be insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ES would be 4 days.

Secondary would be 2.

Ok, so for ES, 4 days in person ( either concurrent or direct teaching) is not too bad for hybrid.What do they do for Wednesday, a day off for kids? I was worried about 2 days in person and 2 days virtual for incoming kindergartener.

Do you know if direct teaching is still on the table or off the table for hybrid model?

If kids are allowed to go in full time, I assume it will be direct teaching, right?

I wouldn't plan on this happening as it is? If Wednesday is a day off, you need to figure out child care which will be an issue if they remove child care from the schools.

The childcare places could still operate on Wednesdays and before/after care. Even with classrooms being used for teaching there will be some classrooms still empty

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our elementary has 4 classes per grade. Since overall the numbers are around 50/50 and I'm sure we aren't that different, can't we just say two virtual classes and two in person classes per grade and be done with it? Sure, some kids will have to switch teachers but that's nothing after what theyve been through already.

No, because the in-person classes can only be half the size of normal in order to maintain the size/distance needed in the classroom. So you need twice as many teachers for the in-person classes. Exceptions are possibly the lower grades in focus elementary schools, which have smaller class sizes to begin with.

Exactly


If teacher A and teacher B both have 20 kids in their class and you shuffle everybody around into virtual and in person then one teacher is dedicated to only teaching 12 kids and the other kid and the other teacher is going to teach 28. I know this is doable in some circumstances but depending on the school it would not be allowed because of rules about class sizes for title 1/focus

So, you punish the virtual kids who are doing their part to reduce the spread? Nice.

But you can be smug about not spreading covid so that's a win?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ES would be 4 days.

Secondary would be 2.

Ok, so for ES, 4 days in person ( either concurrent or direct teaching) is not too bad for hybrid.What do they do for Wednesday, a day off for kids? I was worried about 2 days in person and 2 days virtual for incoming kindergartener.

Do you know if direct teaching is still on the table or off the table for hybrid model?

If kids are allowed to go in full time, I assume it will be direct teaching, right?

I wouldn't plan on this happening as it is? If Wednesday is a day off, you need to figure out child care which will be an issue if they remove child care from the schools.

The childcare places could still operate on Wednesdays and before/after care. Even with classrooms being used for teaching there will be some classrooms still empty

Then many kids from different classroom/grades are mixed up together under childcare (Wednesday & before /after care) at school facility. If one child using childcare is positive, thus many classrooms need to be tested or closed down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ES would be 4 days.

Secondary would be 2.

Ok, so for ES, 4 days in person ( either concurrent or direct teaching) is not too bad for hybrid.What do they do for Wednesday, a day off for kids? I was worried about 2 days in person and 2 days virtual for incoming kindergartener.

Do you know if direct teaching is still on the table or off the table for hybrid model?

If kids are allowed to go in full time, I assume it will be direct teaching, right?

I wouldn't plan on this happening as it is? If Wednesday is a day off, you need to figure out child care which will be an issue if they remove child care from the schools.

The childcare places could still operate on Wednesdays and before/after care. Even with classrooms being used for teaching there will be some classrooms still empty

Then many kids from different classroom/grades are mixed up together under childcare (Wednesday & before /after care) at school facility. If one child using childcare is positive, thus many classrooms need to be tested or closed down.

Not to worry. Mcps nor child care centers will do weekly testing so no one will know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP mentions this. As I understand it, hybrid (doing virtual 2 days and in person 2 days) is off the table.

Is that true?

Don't know if it's off the table everywhere, but my kids' elementary school principal told us that the plans they were working on were 4 days a week in-person (with direct instruction for younger grades and "supervised virtual learning" for the older grades - I'm the OP of this thread). Wednesdays would be distant for everyone.

We are hearing two days in person with two groups.

So...what would happen the other 2 days? Forgive me if I'm being dense, but would it look like this, hypothetically?

Monday: DL at home, Group A at home, Group B in school

Tuesday: DL at home, Group A at school, Group B at home

Wednesday: Everyone at home

etc

Would the full-time DL kids remain in the same class as the kids coming in part-time?

Would the Groups still get 5 days/week of instruction (knowing that Wednesdays are weird)?

And that's the tricky bit. It will look different for each school depending on how many students selected in-person return. This is why the concurrent model is being suggested, otherwise the number of staff needed would be insane.

Except that one thing I was hearing was that if you do the concurrent model you have to use two staff members in each classroom because you have one teacher dedicated primarily to the online students and one teacher primarily dedicated to the in person students so that you don't have a situation where one group is being ignored.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ES would be 4 days.

Secondary would be 2.

Ok, so for ES, 4 days in person ( either concurrent or direct teaching) is not too bad for hybrid.What do they do for Wednesday, a day off for kids? I was worried about 2 days in person and 2 days virtual for incoming kindergartener.

Do you know if direct teaching is still on the table or off the table for hybrid model?

If kids are allowed to go in full time, I assume it will be direct teaching, right?

I wouldn't plan on this happening as it is? If Wednesday is a day off, you need to figure out child care which will be an issue if they remove child care from the schools.

The childcare places could still operate on Wednesdays and before/after care. Even with classrooms being used for teaching there will be some classrooms still empty

Then many kids from different classroom/grades are mixed up together under childcare (Wednesday & before /after care) at school facility. If one child using childcare is positive, thus many classrooms need to be tested or closed down.

Not to worry. Mcps nor child care centers will do weekly testing so no one will know.

Plus according to some people testing is just covid theater and we don't need it! ,/Sarcasm

not to mention that parents cannot be compelled to test their children or share the results with the school as far as I know. It's all on the honor system and some parents will knowingly or unknowingly sent sick kids to school. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP mentions this. As I understand it, hybrid (doing virtual 2 days and in person 2 days) is off the table.

Is that true?

Don't know if it's off the table everywhere, but my kids' elementary school principal told us that the plans they were working on were 4 days a week in-person (with direct instruction for younger grades and "supervised virtual learning" for the older grades - I'm the OP of this thread). Wednesdays would be distant for everyone.

We are hearing two days in person with two groups.

So...what would happen the other 2 days? Forgive me if I'm being dense, but would it look like this, hypothetically?

Monday: DL at home, Group A at home, Group B in school

Tuesday: DL at home, Group A at school, Group B at home

Wednesday: Everyone at home

etc

Would the full-time DL kids remain in the same class as the kids coming in part-time?

Would the Groups still get 5 days/week of instruction (knowing that Wednesdays are weird)?

And that's the tricky bit. It will look different for each school depending on how many students selected in-person return. This is why the concurrent model is being suggested, otherwise the number of staff needed would be insane.

Except that one thing I was hearing was that if you do the concurrent model you have to use two staff members in each classroom because you have one teacher dedicated primarily to the online students and one teacher primarily dedicated to the in person students so that you don't have a situation where one group is being ignored.

You think mcps will hire twice as many teachers....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP mentions this. As I understand it, hybrid (doing virtual 2 days and in person 2 days) is off the table.

Is that true?

Don't know if it's off the table everywhere, but my kids' elementary school principal told us that the plans they were working on were 4 days a week in-person (with direct instruction for younger grades and "supervised virtual learning" for the older grades - I'm the OP of this thread). Wednesdays would be distant for everyone.

We are hearing two days in person with two groups.

So...what would happen the other 2 days? Forgive me if I'm being dense, but would it look like this, hypothetically?

Monday: DL at home, Group A at home, Group B in school

Tuesday: DL at home, Group A at school, Group B at home

Wednesday: Everyone at home

etc

Would the full-time DL kids remain in the same class as the kids coming in part-time?

Would the Groups still get 5 days/week of instruction (knowing that Wednesdays are weird)?

And that's the tricky bit. It will look different for each school depending on how many students selected in-person return. This is why the concurrent model is being suggested, otherwise the number of staff needed would be insane.

Except that one thing I was hearing was that if you do the concurrent model you have to use two staff members in each classroom because you have one teacher dedicated primarily to the online students and one teacher primarily dedicated to the in person students so that you don't have a situation where one group is being ignored.

You think mcps will hire twice as many teachers....

The other person wouldn't necessarily be a licensed teacher. Use paras, reassign specials teachers, and fill in gaps with long-term subs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ES would be 4 days.

Secondary would be 2.

Our MS is looking at 3 different models but because 2/3 of the kids want to go back in person, the schedule might be one week on and one week off to be able to accommodate space for all the students. The one model that makes the most sense is the support model where the students are in person but still on the same Zoom classes as the students at home for that week. It doesn’t sound like much fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP mentions this. As I understand it, hybrid (doing virtual 2 days and in person 2 days) is off the table.

Is that true?

Don't know if it's off the table everywhere, but my kids' elementary school principal told us that the plans they were working on were 4 days a week in-person (with direct instruction for younger grades and "supervised virtual learning" for the older grades - I'm the OP of this thread). Wednesdays would be distant for everyone.

We are hearing two days in person with two groups.

So...what would happen the other 2 days? Forgive me if I'm being dense, but would it look like this, hypothetically?

Monday: DL at home, Group A at home, Group B in school

Tuesday: DL at home, Group A at school, Group B at home

Wednesday: Everyone at home

etc

Would the full-time DL kids remain in the same class as the kids coming in part-time?

Would the Groups still get 5 days/week of instruction (knowing that Wednesdays are weird)?

And that's the tricky bit. It will look different for each school depending on how many students selected in-person return. This is why the concurrent model is being suggested, otherwise the number of staff needed would be insane.

Except that one thing I was hearing was that if you do the concurrent model you have to use two staff members in each classroom because you have one teacher dedicated primarily to the online students and one teacher primarily dedicated to the in person students so that you don't have a situation where one group is being ignored.

You think mcps will hire twice as many teachers....

No. they will require two teachers per classroom in a concurrent classroom but the district is only allocating one more teacher per school to make that happen somehow.

[Anonymous]

I don’t get why ES would be 4 days? What needs to happen on wednesdays other than teachers now want a work from home day like most white collar jobs around here?