LCPS SB selects Scott Ziegler as interim Superintendent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lol, friend, discipline has long been on the decline and we fled LCPS last year after selling our home. One of the for-profit franchises needs to build a secular K-12 private in Loudoun. They would be flooded with applications.

We’ve been lucky so far. Oldest in 7th (all honors) and we haven’t experienced many behavioral issues in her peers and all were addressed swiftly. If that changed, we could certainly afford private but don’t see a need yet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The day they stop disciplining students who act out (regardless of their background) is the day we leave for private. All the good teachers will leave too. This is absurd. There has to be a minimum standard for behavior for everyone involved.

It’s not about not disciplining. It’s about who gets disciplined, what for, and to what degree? Whose parents can get them out of it and whose can’t? White students face fewer suspensions. When Black and brown students are disciplined it’s often for subjective things like “disrespect.” If you fight, sell drugs, hurt someone sure, there’s an expectation of consequences. The consequences are not equal though nor are the offenses for which some students receive them.

I still don’t understand how you can “prove” that black and brown students are not simply misbehaving more often? Is there some proven rule that all races misbehave with equal frequency? Maybe culturally they are not taught to respect authority?

That would be a racist premise. Being disciplined at higher rates than white and Asian students when you are of a racial group that is a smaller percentage of the school population overall than those groups suggests it’s a system issue. That’s why these reports, which are public, are called district discipline DISPROPORTIONALITY reports. They are DISPROPORTIONATELY disciplined relative to their numbers as part of the overall student population. A huge issue for that as well is that most teachers are... white.

[Anonymous]

Maybe they actually ARE disproportionately acting out? This requiring disproportional frequency of discipline. I feel bad for the administrators. “Sorry Bob, can’t discipline this kid. Too many others have already acted out this month. We’ve hit our discipline quota.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe they actually ARE disproportionately acting out? This requiring disproportional frequency of discipline. I feel bad for the administrators. “Sorry Bob, can’t discipline this kid. Too many others have already acted out this month. We’ve hit our discipline quota.”

You’re willfully misinterpreting what would be done. It isn’t about NOT disciplining actual infractions. Part of this is about staff training and helping teachers build competency so their own internal biases don’t cause them to refer students for things like “disrespect” if they wouldn’t refer another student for that same behavior. It’s a major issue when white teachers who do not reflect on their own biases are the ones referring students at higher rates and not questioning WHY.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they actually ARE disproportionately acting out? This requiring disproportional frequency of discipline. I feel bad for the administrators. “Sorry Bob, can’t discipline this kid. Too many others have already acted out this month. We’ve hit our discipline quota.”

You’re willfully misinterpreting what would be done. It isn’t about NOT disciplining actual infractions. Part of this is about staff training and helping teachers build competency so their own internal biases don’t cause them to refer students for things like “disrespect” if they wouldn’t refer another student for that same behavior. It’s a major issue when white teachers who do not reflect on their own biases are the ones referring students at higher rates and not questioning WHY.

Ok. But this explains why the “outrage” over this is a tough sell for some people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they actually ARE disproportionately acting out? This requiring disproportional frequency of discipline. I feel bad for the administrators. “Sorry Bob, can’t discipline this kid. Too many others have already acted out this month. We’ve hit our discipline quota.”

You’re willfully misinterpreting what would be done. It isn’t about NOT disciplining actual infractions. Part of this is about staff training and helping teachers build competency so their own internal biases don’t cause them to refer students for things like “disrespect” if they wouldn’t refer another student for that same behavior. It’s a major issue when white teachers who do not reflect on their own biases are the ones referring students at higher rates and not questioning WHY.

Ok. But this explains why the “outrage” over this is a tough sell for some people.

I don’t think it does. There shouldn’t be outrage over schools reassessing their practices and data to ensure that we are not even subconsciously treating students in different racial groups differently.

[Anonymous]

My kids are almost done with k-12 public but I will be encouraging (and paying for) my grandchildren to go private.

[Anonymous]

Especially if your kids stay in the Fairfax-Loudoun area. I wish I had the foresight long ago to stay in our SArlington townhouse and just pay for private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids are almost done with k-12 public but I will be encouraging (and paying for) my grandchildren to go private.

Peachy. Why don't you let your kids make their own decisions? For crying out loud, you don't even have kids old enough to have grandchildren and you're already thinking about imposing your opinions of public education on them?

And lest anyone think that bias only exists in public schools, let me assure you that private schools are in no way immune.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are almost done with k-12 public but I will be encouraging (and paying for) my grandchildren to go private.

Peachy. Why don't you let your kids make their own decisions? For crying out loud, you don't even have kids old enough to have grandchildren and you're already thinking about imposing your opinions of public education on them?

And lest anyone think that bias only exists in public schools, let me assure you that private schools are in no way immune.

I’m just making sure they have options. With the way things are headed, they will need them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are almost done with k-12 public but I will be encouraging (and paying for) my grandchildren to go private.

Peachy. Why don't you let your kids make their own decisions? For crying out loud, you don't even have kids old enough to have grandchildren and you're already thinking about imposing your opinions of public education on them?

And lest anyone think that bias only exists in public schools, let me assure you that private schools are in no way immune.

I’m just making sure they have options. With the way things are headed, they will need them.

It is very weird to be planning private school for future grandkids when your actual kids are ... still in k-12. Lmao. Do something better with your time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids are almost done with k-12 public but I will be encouraging (and paying for) my grandchildren to go private.

Peachy. Why don't you let your kids make their own decisions? For crying out loud, you don't even have kids old enough to have grandchildren and you're already thinking about imposing your opinions of public education on them?

And lest anyone think that bias only exists in public schools, let me assure you that private schools are in no way immune.

I’m just making sure they have options. With the way things are headed, they will need them.

It is very weird to be planning private school for future grandkids when your actual kids are ... still in k-12. Lmao. Do something better with your time.

It doesn't take any time.

[Anonymous]

Ziegler was the genius behind the proposal to punish teachers if they dared criticize critical race theory. Someone asked if there was racism in Loudoun. Of course, their racism everywhere BUT the misconception is that it is ALL white people at fault. For anyone to assume that rewriting our educational curriculum will solve that problem is a fool. It's bad enough that CRT is based on the premise that America is one giant bedrock of white supremacy and that ALL whites are born racists, now these morons have kicked out Asians from the POC classification and created a whole new sub-category to white people. Asians are now "Honorary/Adjunct Whites". Talk about insulting. The you have Latins/Hispanics being referred to as "LatinX". This entire notation that equity based learning is going to make the world a better place lacks any understanding of what CRT's main goal is. How the hell are you going to denigrate an entire race, ask them to denounce their "privilege" and tell them they have to believe as they are told or they are racists. Bullshit, any curriculum, movement, concept that does not allow for alternate views, otherwise people are racists is not worthy of discussion. "Believe what I tell you, reform, otherwise you're a racist". Does anyone remember a black guy, I think he was a civil rights advocate or marched for 9 years or something, by the name of Dr. Martin Luther King? Yeah this is the same man that broke down barriers and did what people thought was impossible, he was incredible and now, he's been replaced by woke, radical morons and everything he fought for is now meaningless. That is probably the biggest travesty, Dr. King is incompatible with today's equity movement and CRT, this is stunning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe they actually ARE disproportionately acting out? This requiring disproportional frequency of discipline. I feel bad for the administrators. “Sorry Bob, can’t discipline this kid. Too many others have already acted out this month. We’ve hit our discipline quota.”

Your ignorance is overwhelming. You are a racist. There are many studies that explain this but of course you cling to your racist assumptions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ziegler was the genius behind the proposal to punish teachers if they dared criticize critical race theory. Someone asked if there was racism in Loudoun. Of course, their racism everywhere BUT the misconception is that it is ALL white people at fault. For anyone to assume that rewriting our educational curriculum will solve that problem is a fool. It's bad enough that CRT is based on the premise that America is one giant bedrock of white supremacy and that ALL whites are born racists, now these morons have kicked out Asians from the POC classification and created a whole new sub-category to white people. Asians are now "Honorary/Adjunct Whites". Talk about insulting. The you have Latins/Hispanics being referred to as "LatinX". This entire notation that equity based learning is going to make the world a better place lacks any understanding of what CRT's main goal is. How the hell are you going to denigrate an entire race, ask them to denounce their "privilege" and tell them they have to believe as they are told or they are racists. Bullshit, any curriculum, movement, concept that does not allow for alternate views, otherwise people are racists is not worthy of discussion. "Believe what I tell you, reform, otherwise you're a racist". Does anyone remember a black guy, I think he was a civil rights advocate or marched for 9 years or something, by the name of Dr. Martin Luther King? Yeah this is the same man that broke down barriers and did what people thought was impossible, he was incredible and now, he's been replaced by woke, radical morons and everything he fought for is now meaningless. That is probably the biggest travesty, Dr. King is incompatible with today's equity movement and CRT, this is stunning.

This is absolute bullsh&t. No one is denigrating an entire race. White people are not being put down and trod upon. You feel that way because you expect to always have the advantage.