Richmond Public Schools virtual for the rest of SY

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know what soccer fields you all are referring to. I've been to many (too many) in MD and VA frequently during the last 9 months and all families, including hispanic ones, are wearing masks.

There are many fields in Reston where there have been games between Hispanic teams with lots of unmasked spectators.

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Not sure how we got so far off topic but Richmond is mostly black, much less Hispanic than up here.

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Anonymous wrote:They are poor and so are most of their students. And for whatever reason there seems to be a correlation between DL and low income.

Its apples to oranges with schools up here.

“For whatever reason” actually there’s many and they’re well known. This isn’t a mystery.

NP. So far I have read only a few direct quotes, and even those are purporting to sum up an entire group of people in a school district. I actually really, really want to hear it from the source - anyone who can point me to the actual data I'd appreciate it.

I don’t have any data to link you too. sometimes the source is actually working with these families and talking to them. My students families have multiple generations living at home, they work service jobs and cannot afford any paid quarantine or leave for being sick nor do they have good insurance. They’re in hardest hit zip codes. They cannot miss work or it’s a catastrophe. If a child gets sick and brings it home it could get elderly relative sick or working parents sick. They do not think school is safe because they see how bad the spread is in their area. And contrary to PP they are well aware of the ramifications of this choice. One mom told me yesterday “I know my son is struggling and I don’t know how to help him but I am scared to send my kids in the building with covid normalized.” They know the consequences because they feel them the most harshly.

If you look at the Virginia Department of health information it is the Latino and African American families that are being the worst hit by COVID. whether or not you want to admit it these are also the lower income families. They are trying to minimize the impact to their home life and have selected distance learning.

You are right. And my students are Hispanic. Their communities are hit about 4x harder than the wealthier whiter zip codes. You simply CANNOT judge them from a privileged white standpoint.

May I ask you a question, and ask for it not to be taken the wrong way? I see the impact of COVID on Hispanic communities and have read a number of educators saying exactly what you have said, that Hispanic families are extremely fearful of returning to school for the reasons you mention. Obviously, this isn't every family; we are speaking in generalities. Continuing to generalize, given this fear of the virus, why is it that the Hispanic community does not seem to be very mask compliant? I've seen gatherings of Hispanic families, granted outdoors, workers, soccer players and fans, etc. not maintaining social distancing and not wearing masks throughout the pandemic. What is the disconnect?

My guess is you are seeing large groups of people who have already had it (many of my students have) and think it’s safe or live together and think I’m outdoors with my family why wear a mask? (Which many white families do as well.)

No. I am talking about huge family gatherings in parks with no distancing. There is a clear preference for not wearing masks demonstrated over and over. Heck, even the parents on my son's fall soccer team that was comprised of many Trump supporting parents wore masks on the sidelines and when entering and leaving the fields. When we played primarily Hispanic teams, there was not a mask in sight.

Maybe more outreach is needed?

Why would more outreach be needed? According to you and the PP who is a "teacher," Hispanic parents/adults are so aware and fearful of the virus that they don't want their kids in school because they might catch it but inexplicably like to gather in large crowds unmasked.

Logic is not being used by posters here. You all are exposing yourselves as ignorant at best.

Just stop. Yea I teach Hispanic students and talk to their Hispanic families. My input there is valid. I don’t know and can’t speak to every single choice they make in their personal lives. Regardless, take your racist self somewhere else. Nobody needs to deal with your trash. Your kids will go to school, Hispanic families are not your enemy. Shut up.

Given the things you just wrote here about your hispanic students and their families, i'd say you're the racist. Its really unfortunate that you have such influence over their lives.

Um I wrote they are human beings who have very good reasons for choosing DL. They do. Stop deflecting. You have zero business talking about families you don’t know or interact with or care about. Stop using them as talking points for whatever purpose you think they can serve you.

I think you have posters confused. The only thing I said was that poor families are not choosing to DL because they want to. More like they are doing the best they can with the hand they've been dealt. To place the blame of DL on minority/hispanic families is atrocious.

You however were just fine entertaining racist tropes about why hispanic people and families might not be smart enough to wear masks and distance while hanging out on a soccer field. I'm well aware of racism in this country having had persona experience with it. Perhaps you should look racism up. You aren't as woke as you seem to think you are.

Listen, nobody has names here so it can be hard to keep track of whose comments you’re reading but I never said a single thing about Hispanic families not wearing masks other than maybe they didn’t feel the need if they were outside which is true of many people. That’s it. But also, you can’t be taken seriously when you use “woke.”

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I don't know what soccer fields you all are referring to. I've been to many (too many) in MD and VA frequently during the last 9 months and all families, including hispanic ones, are wearing masks.

But the players (white, Hispanic, black, and all other races) are not wearing them, which makes me mad. My son wears his, but the vast majority of players do not.

It isn't required or advised for players to wear masks while on the field. Mine does at all times. I think U.S. soccer was the entity that put those rules forward (masks to/from the field, no masks required on the field) because every soccer team that I'm aware of in this area has those exact same rules at minimum.

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Anonymous wrote:They are poor and so are most of their students. And for whatever reason there seems to be a correlation between DL and low income.

Its apples to oranges with schools up here.

“For whatever reason” actually there’s many and they’re well known. This isn’t a mystery.

NP. So far I have read only a few direct quotes, and even those are purporting to sum up an entire group of people in a school district. I actually really, really want to hear it from the source - anyone who can point me to the actual data I'd appreciate it.

I don’t have any data to link you too. sometimes the source is actually working with these families and talking to them. My students families have multiple generations living at home, they work service jobs and cannot afford any paid quarantine or leave for being sick nor do they have good insurance. They’re in hardest hit zip codes. They cannot miss work or it’s a catastrophe. If a child gets sick and brings it home it could get elderly relative sick or working parents sick. They do not think school is safe because they see how bad the spread is in their area. And contrary to PP they are well aware of the ramifications of this choice. One mom told me yesterday “I know my son is struggling and I don’t know how to help him but I am scared to send my kids in the building with covid normalized.” They know the consequences because they feel them the most harshly.

If you look at the Virginia Department of health information it is the Latino and African American families that are being the worst hit by COVID. whether or not you want to admit it these are also the lower income families. They are trying to minimize the impact to their home life and have selected distance learning.

You are right. And my students are Hispanic. Their communities are hit about 4x harder than the wealthier whiter zip codes. You simply CANNOT judge them from a privileged white standpoint.

May I ask you a question, and ask for it not to be taken the wrong way? I see the impact of COVID on Hispanic communities and have read a number of educators saying exactly what you have said, that Hispanic families are extremely fearful of returning to school for the reasons you mention. Obviously, this isn't every family; we are speaking in generalities. Continuing to generalize, given this fear of the virus, why is it that the Hispanic community does not seem to be very mask compliant? I've seen gatherings of Hispanic families, granted outdoors, workers, soccer players and fans, etc. not maintaining social distancing and not wearing masks throughout the pandemic. What is the disconnect?

My guess is you are seeing large groups of people who have already had it (many of my students have) and think it’s safe or live together and think I’m outdoors with my family why wear a mask? (Which many white families do as well.)

No. I am talking about huge family gatherings in parks with no distancing. There is a clear preference for not wearing masks demonstrated over and over. Heck, even the parents on my son's fall soccer team that was comprised of many Trump supporting parents wore masks on the sidelines and when entering and leaving the fields. When we played primarily Hispanic teams, there was not a mask in sight.

Maybe more outreach is needed?

Why would more outreach be needed? According to you and the PP who is a "teacher," Hispanic parents/adults are so aware and fearful of the virus that they don't want their kids in school because they might catch it but inexplicably like to gather in large crowds unmasked.

Logic is not being used by posters here. You all are exposing yourselves as ignorant at best.

Just stop. Yea I teach Hispanic students and talk to their Hispanic families. My input there is valid. I don’t know and can’t speak to every single choice they make in their personal lives. Regardless, take your racist self somewhere else. Nobody needs to deal with your trash. Your kids will go to school, Hispanic families are not your enemy. Shut up.

Given the things you just wrote here about your hispanic students and their families, i'd say you're the racist. Its really unfortunate that you have such influence over their lives.

Um I wrote they are human beings who have very good reasons for choosing DL. They do. Stop deflecting. You have zero business talking about families you don’t know or interact with or care about. Stop using them as talking points for whatever purpose you think they can serve you.

I think you have posters confused. The only thing I said was that poor families are not choosing to DL because they want to. More like they are doing the best they can with the hand they've been dealt. To place the blame of DL on minority/hispanic families is atrocious.

You however were just fine entertaining racist tropes about why hispanic people and families might not be smart enough to wear masks and distance while hanging out on a soccer field. I'm well aware of racism in this country having had persona experience with it. Perhaps you should look racism up. You aren't as woke as you seem to think you are.

Listen, nobody has names here so it can be hard to keep track of whose comments you’re reading but I never said a single thing about Hispanic families not wearing masks other than maybe they didn’t feel the need if they were outside which is true of many people. That’s it. But also, you can’t be taken seriously when you use “woke.”

Yeah, okay. Thanks for yet another example of why you shouldn't be teaching any minority students. Do you always deride common colloquialisms used by minorities? People like you who police language in favor of a strict adherence to white normative speech shouldn't be let near minority students. I can only imagine how your bias about their speech patterns and cultural practices impacts them. Its called microaggression. Look it up.

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FWIW. Biden just announced initiative to get majority of schhols open during 1st 100 days. Likely window dressing, but yesterday (12/7) DC's FCPS MS sent hybrid learning schedule beginning week of 1/25.


If opening becomes the democratic party line, it's going to be amazing how fast schools around here open up.

I doubt it, unless Congress gives money to improve HVAC etc.

Wear a mask and stfu.