APS Lucy Calkins- how does this happen?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please read “The Knowledge Gap” by Natalie Wexler. Lucy Calkins is HORRIBLE. I can’t believe teachers go along with this.

Every teacher and school administrator should read this book. I doubt many of them have.

It’s basically an opinion piece. All of my kids learned to read by me via whole language. All were reading at a 3rd grade level upon entering K. Head sprout (if it’s still around) was also part of my mom curriculum. Re phonics - You are teaching kids to read laugh and write it as laf. Why would anyone want their child to learn phonics in K? I still remember the K teacher “correcting” my DCs spelling/phonics test. Laugh was marked wrong and corrected as Laf. School was Skool. My poor DC came home crying. I had to schedule a conference and explain that DC DRA was a 36 and to stop teaching DC phonics.

That is not phonics instruction--that is weird. I have never seen a phonics based program that corrects proper spelling and requires incorrect. It just doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please read “The Knowledge Gap” by Natalie Wexler. Lucy Calkins is HORRIBLE. I can’t believe teachers go along with this.

Every teacher and school administrator should read this book. I doubt many of them have.

It’s basically an opinion piece. All of my kids learned to read by me via whole language. All were reading at a 3rd grade level upon entering K. Head sprout (if it’s still around) was also part of my mom curriculum. Re phonics - You are teaching kids to read laugh and write it as laf. Why would anyone want their child to learn phonics in K? I still remember the K teacher “correcting” my DCs spelling/phonics test. Laugh was marked wrong and corrected as Laf. School was Skool. My poor DC came home crying. I had to schedule a conference and explain that DC DRA was a 36 and to stop teaching DC phonics.

That is not phonics instruction--that is weird. I have never seen a phonics based program that corrects proper spelling and requires incorrect. It just doesn't make sense.

Agreed. This sounds insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please read “The Knowledge Gap” by Natalie Wexler. Lucy Calkins is HORRIBLE. I can’t believe teachers go along with this.

Every teacher and school administrator should read this book. I doubt many of them have.

It’s basically an opinion piece. All of my kids learned to read by me via whole language. All were reading at a 3rd grade level upon entering K. Head sprout (if it’s still around) was also part of my mom curriculum. Re phonics - You are teaching kids to read laugh and write it as laf. Why would anyone want their child to learn phonics in K? I still remember the K teacher “correcting” my DCs spelling/phonics test. Laugh was marked wrong and corrected as Laf. School was Skool. My poor DC came home crying. I had to schedule a conference and explain that DC DRA was a 36 and to stop teaching DC phonics.

That is not phonics instruction--that is weird. I have never seen a phonics based program that corrects proper spelling and requires incorrect. It just doesn't make sense.

It’s because she’s lying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please read “The Knowledge Gap” by Natalie Wexler. Lucy Calkins is HORRIBLE. I can’t believe teachers go along with this.

We have to. I despise Lucy and my admins know that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please read “The Knowledge Gap” by Natalie Wexler. Lucy Calkins is HORRIBLE. I can’t believe teachers go along with this.

Omg don’t blame the curriculum a whole district buys and says teachers have to use on the teachers. How much say do you have over how your leadership tells you to do elements of your job?

I’m a nurse and you’d better believe that if my coworkers and I were instructed to do things that consistently led to bad outcomes, we would speak up and demand change.

WTH?? You’re ok with accepting the failing state of education? I seriously have to question your integrity if you’re ok with continuing to operate this way. Jesus.

Calm down Drama Queen. The problem is this is also what’s taught in teaching programs. It’s been reading instruction for a LONG time. A lot of teachers honestly don’t know it’s not “the best” way to teach reading. I don’t teach elementary but you can also stop acting like teachers are killing children by using curriculum they learned on and are told to use by their district. By all means go lobby the district to abandon it and tell them what reading program you prefer.(you don’t know any.)

I don’t know which is worse, knowing the curriculum you follow is terrible yet choosing not to speak up, or being completely unaware that the curriculum is terrible in the first place. It means you’re either lazy or stupid.

Yes, there are many better options for the chosen curriculum. Many posters have linked specific examples. Children need to be taught to decode. Spelling, phonics, and grammar instruction are critical. A curriculum focused on building knowledge, rather than general comprehension strategies, is much more effective.

How do I, as a nurse, understand this better than you?!

*then go to the school board* you yelling at a teacher who doesn’t even use this curriculum as if I’m an idiot is pointless . Also nobody GAF you’re a nurse, quit mentioning it like it gives you some sort of merit here.

Yikes. I hope you’re not my child’s teacher. You don’t seem very intelligent.

You sound like an a-hole. Hope you’re not a parent at my kid’s school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please read “The Knowledge Gap” by Natalie Wexler. Lucy Calkins is HORRIBLE. I can’t believe teachers go along with this.

Omg don’t blame the curriculum a whole district buys and says teachers have to use on the teachers. How much say do you have over how your leadership tells you to do elements of your job?

It’s interesting that you (teachers) can band together for so many things, like keeping schools shut down, but when it comes to what you teach, you don’t have a voice. OhhhhhhK.

The problem is, enough teachers think that current methods and curricula are good. Morons.

You are clueless and an a-hole. Not a good combination.

Maybe an a-hole, but certainly not clueless. Teachers are spineless if they continue to accept things as they are. And, our schools will continue to fail, producing students that can’t cut it in the more difficult college majors. So, what will they choose? Yup - elementary education.

Why are you assuming that they aren’t doing anything and why TF are you being a complete dick about it?

I’m sorry you’re such a loser that you need to tear down others to feel better about yourself. Must be a shitty way to go through life. Everyone probably hates you IRL. Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:THEY DO KNOW. You have no idea what teachers have or have not said to their reps and admin about this. We push back/ they don’t care. You have no idea what curriculum *we* have asked for or what modifications we make against policy and with our own money to teach effectively. So quit acting like just because nobody listens to us either that we aren’t doing or saying anything. It’s literally stupid that you all believe teachers have so much control over return to school, curriculum, etc oh yeah but somehow we also stay giving ourselves low salaries with all this power we have.

+1,000,000,000

[Anonymous]

Our teachers clearly do not care about things being evidence based (i.e, 14 days no new cases). I’m sure they felt more comfortable with Lucy Calkins and that why it was used. Comfort over evidence, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our teachers clearly do not care about things being evidence based (i.e, 14 days no new cases). I’m sure they felt more comfortable with Lucy Calkins and that why it was used. Comfort over evidence, right?

Y’all stay looking foolish on this site. You really do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s basically an opinion piece. All of my kids learned to read by me via whole language. All were reading at a 3rd grade level upon entering K. Head sprout (if it’s still around) was also part of my mom curriculum. Re phonics - You are teaching kids to read laugh and write it as laf. Why would anyone want their child to learn phonics in K? I still remember the K teacher “correcting” my DCs spelling/phonics test. Laugh was marked wrong and corrected as Laf. School was Skool. My poor DC came home crying. I had to schedule a conference and explain that DC DRA was a 36 and to stop teaching DC phonics.

That is not phonics instruction--that is weird. I have never seen a phonics based program that corrects proper spelling and requires incorrect. It just doesn't make sense.

Agreed. This sounds insane.

+3 I wouldn't want anyone to think that what is described above is phonics instruction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please read “The Knowledge Gap” by Natalie Wexler. Lucy Calkins is HORRIBLE. I can’t believe teachers go along with this.

Omg don’t blame the curriculum a whole district buys and says teachers have to use on the teachers. How much say do you have over how your leadership tells you to do elements of your job?

It’s interesting that you (teachers) can band together for so many things, like keeping schools shut down, but when it comes to what you teach, you don’t have a voice. OhhhhhhK.

The problem is, enough teachers think that current methods and curricula are good. Morons.

You are clueless and an a-hole. Not a good combination.

Maybe an a-hole, but certainly not clueless. Teachers are spineless if they continue to accept things as they are. And, our schools will continue to fail, producing students that can’t cut it in the more difficult college majors. So, what will they choose? Yup - elementary education.

Why are you assuming that they aren’t doing anything and why TF are you being a complete dick about it?

I’m sorry you’re such a loser that you need to tear down others to feel better about yourself. Must be a shitty way to go through life. Everyone probably hates you IRL. Sad.

LOL You sound like Trump. Sad!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our teachers clearly do not care about things being evidence based (i.e, 14 days no new cases). I’m sure they felt more comfortable with Lucy Calkins and that why it was used. Comfort over evidence, right?

Y’all stay looking foolish on this site. You really do.

Please tell me you’re not teaching your students that “y’all” is acceptable. You’re just making our points for us at this point.

[Anonymous]

I really wish this thread hadn’t become so nasty. We (parents and teachers) don’t need to attack one another. I’m really disappointed in both sides right now. We just need to come together and fight the continued use of crappy curricula. We don’t stand a chance of changing things unless we fight this together!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really wish this thread hadn’t become so nasty. We (parents and teachers) don’t need to attack one another. I’m really disappointed in both sides right now. We just need to come together and fight the continued use of crappy curricula. We don’t stand a chance of changing things unless we fight this together!!

I’m the OP who started the Spelling and Grammar thread. We definitely need to work together and fight this! The problem is the administration and the school board. Would love it if a journalist picks this up. A lot has been written recently but we need something on local level - with a focus on FCPS, APS, and ACPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:THEY DO KNOW. You have no idea what teachers have or have not said to their reps and admin about this. We push back/ they don’t care. You have no idea what curriculum *we* have asked for or what modifications we make against policy and with our own money to teach effectively. So quit acting like just because nobody listens to us either that we aren’t doing or saying anything. It’s literally stupid that you all believe teachers have so much control over return to school, curriculum, etc oh yeah but somehow we also stay giving ourselves low salaries with all this power we have.

+1,000,000,000

I believe you. Why are Administrators so devoted to this philosophy? I don’t get it.