Is the preference for UVA over UMich a DC area thing?

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Anonymous wrote:If someone can pay in-state for U.V.A. Then of course that is a deal. Other than Berkeley + U.C.L.A. Most state schools are just that-- public schools for the masses

What do you mean by "other than Berkeley + UCLA" other schools are public schools for the masses? Let's compare...

UCLA: 31,500 undergrad enrollment; 68% in-state; 1400 avg SAT; 30.5 avg ACT; 3.9 GPA
Berkeley: 31,800 undergrad enrollment; 67% in-state; 1425 avg SAT; 31 avg ACT; 3.89 GPA
UMich: 31,300 undergrad enrollment; 51% in-state; 1435 avg SAT; 32.5 avg ACT; 3.88 GPA
UVA: 17,011 undergrad enrollment; 66% in-state; 1420 avg SAT; 32 avg ACT; 4.32 GPA
UNC: 19,400 undergrad enrollment; 81% in-state, 1385 avg SAT; 30 avg ACT; 4.39 GPA


In what state are the masses averaging these stats?

The Top 5 public schools are Top 5 for a reason. Not for the masses at all. Incredibly selective and competing with large national privates quite well.

Wow, check out UVA stats vs. UCLA. That's a beatdown. UVA higher SAT, ACT and GPA. Damn.

Definitely impressive. And defending NCAA basketball champions. (And men's lacrosse, if anyone cares about that.)

And if UVA can just get 111 more national championships, it can pass UCLA on the all-time list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_schools_with_the_most_Division_I_national_championships

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If someone can pay in-state for U.V.A. Then of course that is a deal. Other than Berkeley + U.C.L.A. Most state schools are just that-- public schools for the masses

What do you mean by "other than Berkeley + UCLA" other schools are public schools for the masses? Let's compare...

UCLA: 31,500 undergrad enrollment; 68% in-state; 1400 avg SAT; 30.5 avg ACT; 3.9 GPA
Berkeley: 31,800 undergrad enrollment; 67% in-state; 1425 avg SAT; 31 avg ACT; 3.89 GPA
UMich: 31,300 undergrad enrollment; 51% in-state; 1435 avg SAT; 32.5 avg ACT; 3.88 GPA
UVA: 17,011 undergrad enrollment; 66% in-state; 1420 avg SAT; 32 avg ACT; 4.32 GPA
[Highestb]UNC[/b]: 19,400 undergrad enrollment; 81% in-state, 1385 avg SAT; 30 avg ACT; 4.39 GPA


In what state are the masses averaging these stats?

The Top 5 public schools are Top 5 for a reason. Not for the masses at all. Incredibly selective and competing with large national privates quite well.

UVA has the highest gpa, by a mile

UNC is higher. This has mostly to do with how the GPAs are calculated, which is not standardized. UNC has a higher reported GPA than all of the Ivy League schools in the Common Data Set.

UNC admits higher GPAs students quality higher

And they can submit 5 word essays and still get credit.

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The quality of education is the same at both.

Michigan is huge, awful weather, middle of the country, and too many obnoxious New Yorkers vs UVA is smaller, more conservative, better location.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The quality of education is the same at both.

Michigan is huge, awful weather, middle of the country, and too many obnoxious New Yorkers vs UVA is smaller, more conservative, better location.

For engineering and natural sciences, I'd completely disagree. A talented undergraduate can take advantage of the some of the best research laboratories and professors in the world - better than most of the Ivies - at UMich, and the same can't be said at all for UVA.

Now if quality of education means how much time a professor will spend time going over basic homework questions with the 50th percentile clueless undergraduate during office hours, then yeah they are probably both about the same and UVA is better in some instances because its smaller.

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Anonymous wrote:UMich > UVA in national reputation, but the culture is different. If kids are looking for a more traditional, Southern vibe, they’d prefer UVA. Better campus too. I’d far prefer Michigan.

"better campus" is very subjective. I've visited both campuses and strongly prefer Michigan's (I have a bias toward really large campuses that I can explore and never get bored of )

Agreed. Both are nice, but I'll admit to a preference for Michigan's architecture over UVA's.

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This thread is about undergraduates, yet you are you posting pictures of Michigan's gothic Law School? Desperate.

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PP, that’s just stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:UMich > UVA in national reputation, but the culture is different. If kids are looking for a more traditional, Southern vibe, they’d prefer UVA. Better campus too. I’d far prefer Michigan.

"better campus" is very subjective. I've visited both campuses and strongly prefer Michigan's (I have a bias toward really large campuses that I can explore and never get bored of )

Agreed. Both are nice, but I'll admit to a preference for Michigan's architecture over UVA's.

You can frame any college campus pic in fall leaves and it looks better.

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^^ my image paste didn’t work, but you get the point.

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It's a personal opinion and I'd argue Gothic > Southern neoclassical

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Anonymous wrote:It's a personal opinion and I'd argue Gothic > Southern neoclassical

They both have ugly buildings built from circa 1950 until the 1990s.

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I chose Emory engineering over UVA engineering. I don’t think UMich even has a college at all actually.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ my image paste didn’t work, but you get the point.

LOL. Definitely from UVa.
Not good at hard sciences.

[Anonymous]

If you are an international student thinking about going to America, do you go to the college started by one of the founding fathers of USA, or some place near Detroit?

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If you are an international student thinking about going to America, do you go to the college started by one of the founding fathers of USA, or some place near Detroit?

“some place near Detroit” LOL yes, Ann Arbor is definitely an unknown entity yet to be discovered by those pesky annual best college towns list. Hoping one day it’ll get noticed!