On the topic of teacher shortages - Carroll County

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A few things-since I actually live in and have a kid in CCPS.

CC has seriously underpaid its teachers for many years relative to all of the surrounding counties. We're generally the training ground for young teachers who then leave for more money in nearby counties. CC can't hardly attract teachers without COVID being in the mix and the surrounding counties aren't going back yet.

The plan is to hire substitutes (have to be 18 and have a high school diploma) to keep classrooms under control where teachers aren't coming back but continuing to teach virtually.

CC hasn't met the COVID case benchmarks set by the BOE to return to the classrooms. Our county health department head has stated his discomfort with starting the hybrid approach now, but some of the BOE members said that "we'll hope for the best" and that it will be "messy."

Parents have gotten emails from CCPS stating that, for example, they're ventilating the schools per the CDC's guidelines to "the extent possible." My kid's school was built in 1979 and hardly has any windows that open. The HVAC system is very old and is slated to be replaced in the next few years. The handwashing facilities in the restrooms are sorely lacking (no hot water), complete with hand air dryers.

One of CC's Commissioners (Bouchat) is pushing to rid the county of masking requirements and other COVID prevention measures. This is a popular sentiment in CC.

There is a big parental push to start school and rec sports. The BOE's expressed concern about starting sports before starting hybrid.

I don't understand the hate for the teachers' unions. Why is a union that protects teachers' health interests bad, but a police union that protects sketchy cops is good?

I should also add that kids are due to return on 10/19, but parents can opt for their kids to continue all virtual.

[Anonymous]

My cousin was 20 plus years in teaching in Carol County and I was only a few years in teaching in MOCO and I was making more then him.

quote=Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A few things-since I actually live in and have a kid in CCPS.

CC has seriously underpaid its teachers for many years relative to all of the surrounding counties. We're generally the training ground for young teachers who then leave for more money in nearby counties. CC can't hardly attract teachers without COVID being in the mix and the surrounding counties aren't going back yet.

The plan is to hire substitutes (have to be 18 and have a high school diploma) to keep classrooms under control where teachers aren't coming back but continuing to teach virtually.

CC hasn't met the COVID case benchmarks set by the BOE to return to the classrooms. Our county health department head has stated his discomfort with starting the hybrid approach now, but some of the BOE members said that "we'll hope for the best" and that it will be "messy."

Parents have gotten emails from CCPS stating that, for example, they're ventilating the schools per the CDC's guidelines to "the extent possible." My kid's school was built in 1979 and hardly has any windows that open. The HVAC system is very old and is slated to be replaced in the next few years. The handwashing facilities in the restrooms are sorely lacking (no hot water), complete with hand air dryers.

One of CC's Commissioners (Bouchat) is pushing to rid the county of masking requirements and other COVID prevention measures. This is a popular sentiment in CC.

There is a big parental push to start school and rec sports. The BOE's expressed concern about starting sports before starting hybrid.

I don't understand the hate for the teachers' unions. Why is a union that protects teachers' health interests bad, but a police union that protects sketchy cops is good?

I should also add that kids are due to return on 10/19, but parents can opt for their kids to continue all virtual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few things-since I actually live in and have a kid in CCPS.

CC has seriously underpaid its teachers for many years relative to all of the surrounding counties. We're generally the training ground for young teachers who then leave for more money in nearby counties. CC can't hardly attract teachers without COVID being in the mix and the surrounding counties aren't going back yet.

The plan is to hire substitutes (have to be 18 and have a high school diploma) to keep classrooms under control where teachers aren't coming back but continuing to teach virtually.

CC hasn't met the COVID case benchmarks set by the BOE to return to the classrooms. Our county health department head has stated his discomfort with starting the hybrid approach now, but some of the BOE members said that "we'll hope for the best" and that it will be "messy."

Parents have gotten emails from CCPS stating that, for example, they're ventilating the schools per the CDC's guidelines to "the extent possible." My kid's school was built in 1979 and hardly has any windows that open. The HVAC system is very old and is slated to be replaced in the next few years. The handwashing facilities in the restrooms are sorely lacking (no hot water), complete with hand air dryers.

One of CC's Commissioners (Bouchat) is pushing to rid the county of masking requirements and other COVID prevention measures. This is a popular sentiment in CC.

There is a big parental push to start school and rec sports. The BOE's expressed concern about starting sports before starting hybrid.

I don't understand the hate for the teachers' unions. Why is a union that protects teachers' health interests bad, but a police union that protects sketchy cops is good?

I should also add that kids are due to return on 10/19, but parents can opt for their kids to continue all virtual.

The thoughts on these threads are stupid. Hiring high school diploma people to teach? Hiring and outsourcing education to India? Really, hard pass to both. I don't want my kid learning from someone in a third world country or being taught by someone who hasn't enrolled and passed child development and teaching courses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few things-since I actually live in and have a kid in CCPS.

CC has seriously underpaid its teachers for many years relative to all of the surrounding counties. We're generally the training ground for young teachers who then leave for more money in nearby counties. CC can't hardly attract teachers without COVID being in the mix and the surrounding counties aren't going back yet.

The plan is to hire substitutes (have to be 18 and have a high school diploma) to keep classrooms under control where teachers aren't coming back but continuing to teach virtually.

CC hasn't met the COVID case benchmarks set by the BOE to return to the classrooms. Our county health department head has stated his discomfort with starting the hybrid approach now, but some of the BOE members said that "we'll hope for the best" and that it will be "messy."

Parents have gotten emails from CCPS stating that, for example, they're ventilating the schools per the CDC's guidelines to "the extent possible." My kid's school was built in 1979 and hardly has any windows that open. The HVAC system is very old and is slated to be replaced in the next few years. The handwashing facilities in the restrooms are sorely lacking (no hot water), complete with hand air dryers.

One of CC's Commissioners (Bouchat) is pushing to rid the county of masking requirements and other COVID prevention measures. This is a popular sentiment in CC.

There is a big parental push to start school and rec sports. The BOE's expressed concern about starting sports before starting hybrid.

I don't understand the hate for the teachers' unions. Why is a union that protects teachers' health interests bad, but a police union that protects sketchy cops is good?

I should also add that kids are due to return on 10/19, but parents can opt for their kids to continue all virtual.

The thoughts on these threads are stupid. Hiring high school diploma people to teach? Hiring and outsourcing education to India? Really, hard pass to both. I don't want my kid learning from someone in a third world country or being taught by someone who hasn't enrolled and passed child development and teaching courses.

I'm PP who lives in CC and whose kid goes to a CC high school. The BOE decided this week to delay hybrid in high schools until November because they couldn't get enough substitutes. Elementary and middle schools will go hybrid next week as planned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few things-since I actually live in and have a kid in CCPS.

CC has seriously underpaid its teachers for many years relative to all of the surrounding counties. We're generally the training ground for young teachers who then leave for more money in nearby counties. CC can't hardly attract teachers without COVID being in the mix and the surrounding counties aren't going back yet.

The plan is to hire substitutes (have to be 18 and have a high school diploma) to keep classrooms under control where teachers aren't coming back but continuing to teach virtually.

CC hasn't met the COVID case benchmarks set by the BOE to return to the classrooms. Our county health department head has stated his discomfort with starting the hybrid approach now, but some of the BOE members said that "we'll hope for the best" and that it will be "messy."

Parents have gotten emails from CCPS stating that, for example, they're ventilating the schools per the CDC's guidelines to "the extent possible." My kid's school was built in 1979 and hardly has any windows that open. The HVAC system is very old and is slated to be replaced in the next few years. The handwashing facilities in the restrooms are sorely lacking (no hot water), complete with hand air dryers.

One of CC's Commissioners (Bouchat) is pushing to rid the county of masking requirements and other COVID prevention measures. This is a popular sentiment in CC.

There is a big parental push to start school and rec sports. The BOE's expressed concern about starting sports before starting hybrid.

I don't understand the hate for the teachers' unions. Why is a union that protects teachers' health interests bad, but a police union that protects sketchy cops is good?

Did anyone say police unions are good? Certainly not me.

Unions can do good, but at this point, they're doing more bad than good.

I'm the PP you're replying to and it's clear you don't live in or know anything about CC at all, which is where cops and their unions are supported no matter what, but teachers are vilified no matter what. I don't really care what you think about police unions because I wasn't asking you the question; it was a rhetorical question about CC. I hope that answers your question.

[Anonymous]

Fire the teachers that want the unpaid leave and have openingS for normal teaching positions, rather than substitutes. There will definitely be applicants then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fire the teachers that want the unpaid leave and have openingS for normal teaching positions, rather than substitutes. There will definitely be applicants then.

No, there won't. CC pays its teachers crap relative to the surrounding counties, which are all still virtual.