not happy I need to take dog to vet- super high risk husband at home

[Anonymous]

What are your dog's symptoms? Are your sure he has an abscessed tooth?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish everyone who is quarantining themselves 100% understood that they come from a place of extreme privilege. They happily pay for food delivery and grocery delivery and —what, do you assume none of those people working in the grocery stores or delivering your food live in houses with people with medical issues? All those people that work in factories that make the food and cleaning supplies that gets delivered tidily to your door step....also at risk and live with people at risk. But they don’t have the choice you have to make the decisions you do. So when people are irritated with your irrational worry that your DOG might get infected with Covid and bring it back to you and your Dh...yes we sometimes go off topic and bristle at the question because we or our loved ones have to work EVERY DAY putting ourselves at risk for YOU, the privileged one who gets to worry about infinitesimal likelihoods. So if you’re going to ask questions on a board like this (DCuM is not for the faint of heart), I suggest you don’t get so defensive if you don’t like the answers.

And to answer your actual question—statistically it’s practically impossible for your feared situation to occur. Take that poor dog to fix his abcess.

WHO. F'ING. CARES.

If OP can afford to have her groceries delivered and work from home, then who cares????? Some people are privileged. I can't believe there are STILL posters trying to shame people who can afford to stay in if that's what they choose. More power to them. It doesn't matter one tiny bit that you are out there working. If you could afford not to work, are you claiming you would still go, just for the hell of it? Get off your damn high horse. It got old months ago.

OP, I haven't read the whole thread but there are cases of dogs who have tested positive for COVID. Can't you keep the dog in a side room for two weeks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is not a single case of pet to human transmission. Not one confirmed case.
- vet

OP here, THis is my final post on this topic.

First: Vet, There are confirmed cases of animal to human transmission, minks to human. And you know as well as I do that at one time there was no confirmed case, not one, of human to animal transmission, and now there is. As a doctor, you know absence of evidence is not equal to evidence of absence, but it can be a good guess, considering other variables.

Here is the piece of info I need to confirm my concern. I just got off the phone with a vet in my old neighborhood. This person is a respected vet with a high traffic practice.

They have put a stringent policy in place in addition to no contact and curbside dropff for the humans, which is to to 1) separate animals from each other by two kennels worth if they are being held preoperatively 2) operating from prep to surgery ONE animal at a time, as opposed to standard practice of having techs prep animals in one area, and then move to surgery to prep another animal et 3) of course sterilizing between all visits

and WHY? "we are very concerned about animals giving it to each other and us catching it from the animals. Dr, B is not satisfied with the state guidelines. We get complaints from people who dont appreciate the way we are doing things, and a select few who appreciate all the cautions we are taking".

So, vet, another vet seems to think its possible. Make of that what you will. Im taking my dog to a vet that takes serious things seriously and not sit around waiting for empirical evidence.

Lets take a nostalgic look back at what not having empirical evidence in hand has allowed to take place.

People without symptoms were never ever tested. We now know that screwed us all over ROYALLY.

We continue to not apply common sense cautions where evidence is lacking AND we continue to not apply caution where evidence is abundant.

So by all means, we *can* wait till we have proof of dog to dog transmission of covid and ignore the fact that we already have proven cat to cat transmission and ferret to ferret transmission and not simply draw some basic hypothetical possibilties. I mean, or, we can just assume this transmission is possible, and treat animals with the same caution we do people.

And of course we can simply wait until the first pet to human case is documented and ignore the fact that minks can infect humans, that minks can be pets, that ferrets are like minks, and ferrets ARE pets, OR, we can assume its possible that dogs can give it to people just like we assume people can give it to people, including asymptomatically.

Our nations state with covid is due in part to people posturing over others that they know more about what is and isn't a problem, and we are showing NO signs of improving our situation. The animal models are behind, but what is there is concerning enough for some vets to take some extra precautions to save lives, animal and human.

You need serious help. You ask a question, get valid and helpful answers but seem to know more than anyone else. I feel sorry for you, your pet and your future vet. Get some help.

[Anonymous]

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-09/esoc-sss_1091720.php

Here is your mink study. Let me summarize - they know nothing more than anyone else in terms of transmission.

Conclusion -"Additional research will be needed to determine the routes of transmission. We conclude that at least some of these employees are very likely to have been infected directly from infected mink and thereby describe the first proven zoonotic transmission of SARS-CoV-2 to humans. Close collaboration between human and animal health departments is essential for early identification and control of SARS-CoV-2 infections."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish everyone who is quarantining themselves 100% understood that they come from a place of extreme privilege. They happily pay for food delivery and grocery delivery and —what, do you assume none of those people working in the grocery stores or delivering your food live in houses with people with medical issues? All those people that work in factories that make the food and cleaning supplies that gets delivered tidily to your door step....also at risk and live with people at risk. But they don’t have the choice you have to make the decisions you do. So when people are irritated with your irrational worry that your DOG might get infected with Covid and bring it back to you and your Dh...yes we sometimes go off topic and bristle at the question because we or our loved ones have to work EVERY DAY putting ourselves at risk for YOU, the privileged one who gets to worry about infinitesimal likelihoods. So if you’re going to ask questions on a board like this (DCuM is not for the faint of heart), I suggest you don’t get so defensive if you don’t like the answers.

And to answer your actual question—statistically it’s practically impossible for your feared situation to occur. Take that poor dog to fix his abcess.

WHO. F'ING. CARES.

If OP can afford to have her groceries delivered and work from home, then who cares????? Some people are privileged. I can't believe there are STILL posters trying to shame people who can afford to stay in if that's what they choose. More power to them. It doesn't matter one tiny bit that you are out there working. If you could afford not to work, are you claiming you would still go, just for the hell of it? Get off your damn high horse. It got old months ago.

OP, I haven't read the whole thread but there are cases of dogs who have tested positive for COVID. Can't you keep the dog in a side room for two weeks?

That is abusive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish everyone who is quarantining themselves 100% understood that they come from a place of extreme privilege. They happily pay for food delivery and grocery delivery and —what, do you assume none of those people working in the grocery stores or delivering your food live in houses with people with medical issues? All those people that work in factories that make the food and cleaning supplies that gets delivered tidily to your door step....also at risk and live with people at risk. But they don’t have the choice you have to make the decisions you do. So when people are irritated with your irrational worry that your DOG might get infected with Covid and bring it back to you and your Dh...yes we sometimes go off topic and bristle at the question because we or our loved ones have to work EVERY DAY putting ourselves at risk for YOU, the privileged one who gets to worry about infinitesimal likelihoods. So if you’re going to ask questions on a board like this (DCuM is not for the faint of heart), I suggest you don’t get so defensive if you don’t like the answers.

And to answer your actual question—statistically it’s practically impossible for your feared situation to occur. Take that poor dog to fix his abcess.

+ 1 million

+another million.

[Anonymous]

Give up the dog to a less neurotic owner.

[Anonymous]

I can’t read this drivel...I think you should just give the dog away. It needs medical care and you are killing yourself to justify not getting that care.

If your kids need the ER, just drop them there and let CPS pick them up and find them a new home.

[Anonymous]

Tigers at zoos have tested positive for COVID19 and so have pet dogs.

[Anonymous]

I stayed this kindly as possible but you sound super anxious to the point of it being unhealthy. Unfortunately another symptom of coronavirus is that it’s taking a toll on people‘s mental health.

Regarding your dog, you will be perfectly fine taking him to the vet. You will not get sick from it and he will not bring home any illnesses.

[Anonymous]

Look OP, you aren’t going to be able to convince yourself that the dog going to the vet won’t give you covid.

BUT, the dog needs medical care.

So, you’re either going to have to take the risk or give the dog away.

Letting the dog suffer, is not an option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are your dog's symptoms? Are your sure he has an abscessed tooth?

OP, have you even brought you dog in for a check-up? Your are only guessing at this point that he has an abscessed tooth.